GUILTY Australia - Dean Shillingsworth, 2, found in suitcase, Ambarvale, NSW, 11 Oct 2007

[MeoW333]

It's illegal in a lot of states though. Certain light tinting for blocking the sun and whatnot is allowed though.

That is true, although it doesn't seem to stop people. In NY it is illegal, yet so many still have it tinted. The police have a meter they use to tell the degree of tint that is legal. In southern states such as Florida, it is legal for dark tints. Also in many states, commercial vehicles are allowed to have them.

 

[Al_B]

ok I got a couple more questions
1. does everyone there have babies in hospital?
2. Can they do like DNA polls not sure how to say t really but can they just have people go in for the test?( I read a book once about a murderer in England and they had all the men in the area go in and give DNA the killer slipped by the first time as he paid someone to do it for him,but they did get him not long after cause the id's didn't match or something and they made him do it ,I'll have to find the book but it was in like 1987 or something)

 

[dingo]

House raided over suitcase murder.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=307553.

This could be our suspects..lets hope so.

 

[dingo]

ok I got a couple more questions
1. does everyone there have babies in hospital?
2. Can they do like DNA polls not sure how to say t really but can they just have people go in for the test?( I read a book once about a murderer in England and they had all the men in the area go in and give DNA the killer slipped by the first time as he paid someone to do it for him,but they did get him not long after cause the id's didn't match or something and they made him do it ,I'll have to find the book but it was in like 1987 or something)

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1.Yes Al....most of us have our babies in hospital but some mums opt for home births.
2.Is this the Janelle Patton story that took place on Norfolk island?.
I think they can only dna people here who are considered suspects.

 

[Al_B]

I cannot recall the case name for the life of me but here
http://www.ctbiobus.org/curriculum/the_case_of_the_crown_jewels.htm
In 1985, the first forensic use of DNA occurred in England. Scotland Yard was looking for the murders of two young girls in the English Midlands. Every male between the ages of 13 and 34 (almost 4000 men) living in the nearby villages was required to donate a blood sample for analysis. They were able to identify a man by the name of Colin Pitchfork as responsible for the murders.

 

[dingo]

I do remember the one you are talking about now Al.....Im a believer of DNAing being done at birth and stored on computers...it would save a lot of hard work for investigators.

 

[Al_B]

I think that and a computer photo ID system much like driver's licenses would be nice and have them renewed each year so photos stay current and make them mandatory until 18 (not all kids get driver's license's at 16)

 

[dingo]

Im all for that to Al..anything that makes it easier for the police to find the crims and the missing faster.

 

[Al_B]

well, I just noticed a lot of photos are hard to see features in some cases and some aren't current at all. that and the DNA encoded in the card would save problems in the future and having it in a central computer but the ACLU wouldn't like it cause if the kids grew up and became criminals it might violate some right. we need a loop hole

 

[dingo]

Oh theres bound to be some people who wouldnt like our ideas at all Al.

 

[dingo]

Woman interviewed over suitcase body.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=306763

 

[STEADFAST]

Woman interviewed over suitcase body.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=306763

So glad if this turns out to be a break in the case and it seems like it is. It just seemed impossible that this child wouldn't be identified. But sometimes that impossibility does happen.

 

[dingo]

Lets keep our fingers crossed Steadfast..this little boy deserves justice

 

[STEADFAST]

Lets keep our fingers crossed Steadfast..this little boy deserves justice

I have a feeling this crime will come to light. Of course, it's too late for the poor child. That someone could put him in a suitcase in the water . . . well, let alone kill him in the first place. How can people's minds even go there?

 

[dingo]

Its got me beat mate

 

[dingo]

The mother has been caught and is being charged with her sons death.....I just heard all this on the news

 

[strach304]

Thanks Dingo, I'm glad to see this one wrapped up quick. Good job LE :dance:

Can you keep us updated?

 

[dingo]

I will Strach....it said on the news that child services had been called numerous times to the house but failed to take the little boy away

 

[strach304]

I will Strach....it said on the news that child services had been called numerous times to the house but failed to take the little boy away

Isn't this just getting to be ridiculous! We have the same problem here in the states. I really think just like FEMA the system is broke and needs to be revamped.

Thank God the neighbors noticed this child hadn't been around and called it in.

 

[dingo]

Ours needs a big overhaul and it might have taken this little boys death to bring attention to it....Im sure heads will be rolling here by monday.