Australia - Family of four dead plus pets in murder-suicide, Mosman Park, WA, 30 Jan 2026

[iamshadow21]

There is no excuse for taking the life of a disabled person | Broadview Magazine

We should show no mercy for people who commit 'mercy killings'

broadview.org

 

[Lisbeth_S]

Has there been any reports that this was likely a "mercy killing"?
I have tried going back to read the MSM articles but I have not found it....have I missed it?

 

[iamshadow21]

Disability expert slams 'dangerous narrative' of Mosman Park teen deaths

Australia's disability discrimination commissioner condemns "dangerous narratives" surrounding the deaths of teenage brothers Leon and Otis Clune, saying the burden of disability should never be a justification for family violence.

www.abc.net.au

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Australians in particular, what is your take on the help available?

On another topic, I do wonder why they didn't just leave the boys in a safe place if they themselves didn't want to go on. But it does not sound like the notes they left behind will be released.

 

[iamshadow21]

Australians in particular, what is your take on the help available?

On another topic, I do wonder why they didn't just leave the boys in a safe place if they themselves didn't want to go on. But it does not sound like the notes they left behind will be released.

In my opinion, the help available is not relevant. Millions of families care for disabled family members, with or without support, and manage to do so without murdering them.

One of the links I have posted in the thread talks about how this kind of murder is often all about displaced anger. Killing the children was the whole point, in my opinion, and killing themselves was to avoid consequences. Killing the pets is less straightforward, but some family annihilators do kill the family pets as well.

MOO

 

[Fantastic]

I take that to mean they found no gun or knife. I suppose that leaves overdose, poison, carbon monoxide, smothering, which I'd have thought if used to kill someone would still be classified as a weapon.
It has been reported as a double murder-suicide meaning the children and pets were killed then the parents entered a suicide pact.

I was thinking about this aspect too. The police said no weapons were used, but then how were blood stains reportedly seen, at the back of the property?

Quote:
"Their bodies were located in different parts of the house and police had indicated the deaths were not violent in nature and that no weapons had been used."

'Bloodstains' found at double murder suicide property

Deep red marks were seen at Mosman Park property after two teenagers are suspected of being killed by their parents in a double murder-suicide.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[iamshadow21]

I was thinking about this aspect too. The police said no weapons were used, but then how were blood stains reportedly seen, at the back of the property?

Quote:
"Their bodies were located in different parts of the house and police had indicated the deaths were not violent in nature and that no weapons had been used."

'Bloodstains' found at double murder suicide property

Deep red marks were seen at Mosman Park property after two teenagers are suspected of being killed by their parents in a double murder-suicide.

www.dailymail.co.uk

It's the Daily Mail. It could just as easily be something unrelated like paint or ochre in the soil and have nothing to do with the murders of the children or the pets. They've just speculated based on drone footage.

MOO

 

[Fantastic]

It's the Daily Mail. It could just as easily be something unrelated like paint or ochre in the soil and have nothing to do with the murders of the children or the pets. They've just speculated based on drone footage.

MOO

Perhaps, I'd say unlikely, although pixelated, it looks like a pool of some dark liquid. According to the article, quote "a spokesperson for West Australian Police would not comment on the suspected bloodstains when contacted on Sunday." That suggests to me police are not denying there's blood there.

There could be an innocent explanation, like a head wound or other injury that occurred on impact, such as a fall after death, then bled out. That'd be consistent with what the photo seems to show.

 

[jepop]

I was thinking about this aspect too. The police said no weapons were used, but then how were blood stains reportedly seen, at the back of the property?

Quote:
"Their bodies were located in different parts of the house and police had indicated the deaths were not violent in nature and that no weapons had been used."

'Bloodstains' found at double murder suicide property

Deep red marks were seen at Mosman Park property after two teenagers are suspected of being killed by their parents in a double murder-suicide.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Watch out for the DM and the misinformation it often generates IMO via headlines. If you read the article it is clear to me that this is just pure speculation by the writer and/or editor. Clearly sensationalist as per usual IMO and short on established fact. Moo

The article uses the term "suspected blood" then offers some pixilated video image as if the editors are afraid to offend their readers, lol. Moo the pixilation adds to the sensationalism and that is its purpose. It conveniently also makes it impossible for the viewer to see what in h* they are actually talking about, again that seems to be the point. Moo.

I would speculate that the video image has been pixilated precisely because a clear shot would show that ain't blood. But who knows ...

And suspected blood by whom? Well...the DM. Not the police. It is the DM who 'suspect' blood, not the police or anyone involved in the investigation.
Truck load of salt. Moo

 

[Sueco]

Not at all, Mosman Park is one of Perth's most affluent suburbs. The house they lived in is beautiful, and one of the boys went to Christ Church Grammar School, one of Perth's top private schools.

Mosman Park deaths: Family, including two children, dead in suspected double murder-suicide at Mott Close

A mother, father and their two teenage sons, as well as the family’s pets have been found dead in one of Perth’s most affluent suburbs as police investigate a suspected double murder-suicide. LATEST UPDATES.

www.perthnow.com.au

Wherever you live or whatever you do, you can always come into financial trouble. It can happen to anyone anywhere.

 

[MelmothTheLost]

There are indeed too many cases where a parent just can't face forever with a special needs child, or a child with huge medical challenges, and I can personally understand the parent becoming paralyzed to go on. But then they should let someone else care for the child...

Isn't that part of the problem, ie the parents believing that nobody else could love or care for their kids as well as they could, so if they, the parents, feel unable to continue doing so then there is (from their point of view) only one logical course of action?

 

[iamshadow21]

Isn't that part of the problem, ie the parents believing that nobody else could love or care for their kids as well as they could, so if they, the parents, feel unable to continue doing so then there is (from their point of view) only one logical course of action?

That's a rationalisation family annihilators use whether their kids are disabled or not. They want to kill themselves but they don't want the kids to exist without them because they might be unhappy, so they choose the horrific certainly that the kids don't exist at all. And we don't give those parents a pass.

It's ego and narcissism and control pretending to be altruism.

There's nothing altruistic about murdering children.

MOO

 

[MelmothTheLost]

That's a rationalisation family annihilators use whether their kids are disabled or not. They want to kill themselves but they don't want the kids to exist without them because they might be unhappy, so they choose the horrific certainly that the kids don't exist at all. And we don't give those parents a pass.

It's ego and narcissism and control pretending to be altruism.

There's nothing altruistic about murdering children.

MOO

Which is why I wrote from their point of view.

 

[iamshadow21]

Which is why I wrote from their point of view.

I was agreeing with you, and pointing out that it isn't exclusive to those with disabled kids. It's a hallmark of family annihilators. So those who do it to disabled kids aren't acting any differently to those who kill nondisabled kids. Which is why challenging the narrative is important.

 

[jepop]

I was agreeing with you, and pointing out that it isn't exclusive to those with disabled kids. It's a hallmark of family annihilators. So those who do it to disabled kids aren't acting any differently to those who kill nondisabled kids. Which is why challenging the narrative is important.

Also, given what we know at present with the notes left and both parents suiciding, the murder of their innocent children was planned in advance Imo ( how far in advance is not indicated). Just to contrast that with situations where a caregiver has been found to murder a child in a (am struggling to find the words to convey what I mean so please excuse if this reads insensitively,) more spontaneous situation ie proven psychotic break, break with reality. Jmo

 

[ReDReq]

In question of why they killed their family pets... I managed to dig out at least one publication, which might explain the subject a bit...

I leave the way more distressing publications out, because this is a hard subject in overall, like taking the light out from two beautiful young souls.

I wouldn't extremely much value for what's in DM either. I find them being extremely click-baity.

The link:

Extended suicide with a pet - PubMed

The combination of the killing of a pet and a suicide is a perplexing scenario that is largely unexplored in the literature. Many forensic psychiatrists and psychologists may be unaccustomed to considering the significance of the killing of a pet. The subject is important, however, because many...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[jepop]

In question of why they killed their family pets... I managed to dig out at least one publication, which might explain the subject a bit...

I leave the way more distressing publications out, because this is a hard subject in overall, like taking the light out from two beautiful young souls.

I wouldn't extremely much value for what's in DM either. I find them being extremely click-baity.

The link:

Extended suicide with a pet - PubMed

The combination of the killing of a pet and a suicide is a perplexing scenario that is largely unexplored in the literature. Many forensic psychiatrists and psychologists may be unaccustomed to considering the significance of the killing of a pet. The subject is important, however, because many...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Thanks for posting this. Just based on the preliminary conclusions presented in the article, it appears that the research found some strong parallels between why a person might kill/murder their pet and then suicide, and why a parent/ primary caregiver might do the same with a child. My interpretation being; in the case of a pet, that pet is considered a dependent family member whose right to live is overridden by the pet owner's decision their pet must die rather than live on without them. Jmo

 

[jepop]

Thanks for posting this. Just based on the preliminary conclusions presented in the article, it appears that the research found some strong parallels between why a person might kill/murder their pet and then suicide, and why a parent/ primary caregiver might do the same with a child. My interpretation being; in the case of a pet, that pet is considered a dependent family member whose right to live is overridden by the pet owner's decision their pet must die rather than live on without them. Jmo

The killing of the pets has kept intruding into my thoughts about this case today. Trying to get some of this thought out.

These parents decided to murder all the family pets as well as their children. Are we really, as a society, just going to immediately put majority focus and energy into the widespread, popular narrative? If we do that as a sort of knee jerk reaction ( "Do better NDIS" was flying around social media the very next day), then don't we also have to believe that if the parents had only had enough help with the stress of looking after the pets, their deaths too could have been avoided? So support services failed the cat and dog too?

Well, really of course not. So then what? Are the pets to be written off as the collateral damage of the perpetrators' stress? End of? Never mentioned again?

Why were the pets murdered too? If we can answer that to any satisfactory level then Imo those answers will inform our understanding of why these parents chose to murder their kids before taking their own lives, rather than grant them the right to live on as the individual, separate young people they were. Jmo

What would it really have taken to prevent these murders? Were they even preventable? That is a complicated question, but Imo the answers lie well beyond 'do better NDIS' and in a different direction. Jmo

 

[ChatteringBirds]

This is actually a really good point. There is no arguing that maybe they had reached their limit as parents and murdered the boys because they were afraid of what kind of care, or abuse, the boys might face without them. Because they killed the pets too, who would have easily found good homes.They could have even been the ones to find homes for the pets before taking their own lives.

 

[ReDReq]

There is the talk on news articles among others, that they felt isolated and alone. And felt like the entire bureaucratic system failed them (all linked before.) Naturally this is speculative, as we don't know everything and have to accept that as well. What caught my eye, was multiple mentions of the mother not trusting anyone else to take care of her boys, and it could be easily extended towards the pets as well.

Also one thing came to my mind is the possibility of fearing the pets dying, before anyone would find the family. This could indicate possibly using "practice" trials by sending the pets to rainbow bridge. There is very nasty case from WWII-era as well, where the pets become the trial subjects, in order to find out - if the method in use is effective and potentially not that painful way to go. I don't dwell into this historically known fact. It was speculated even then, that reason of killing the pets, was fear of them being hurt as well (or in the WWII case, tortured.).

So perhaps we could talk perhaps a major dissociation episode and losing all hope to everything, where you feel only fear and despair? Need to protect the children from all evil, including pets, thus opting to murder. Naturally this kind of thing is way too drastic. Do we know about the time frame of who went first? is it possible, that these parents first planned only getting rid of their children, and after doing so - the remorse hit and they started to plan their own exit?

These are my speculations only now.