Australia - Hannah McGuire, 22 homicide staged as suicide, Ballarat, Apr 2024

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  • #61
Trooper said:
Young and his barristers took a gamble when they rejected the original offer made by the DPP and VICPOL to plead guilty to murder... he would have been entitled to a 15% or even 20% discount on his sentence ( although murder is a life sentence, the matter of parole is indicated in the discount stuff ) and because of his age he might have got a considerable discounted sentence, like parole at about 60 or something...

But he went for broke and lost , not only lost case,, but lost the discount and is subject to the full weight of the law AND loses the right to appeal, etc...

so faretheewell, Lachlan Young you nasty piece of work.
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'''but lost the discount and is subject to the full weight of the law AND loses the right to appeal, etc...'''

to correct my own post,, he has lost the right to appeal the conviction, but he retains a right to appeal the sentence , should some matter evolve that gives him leeway to do so. Sorry about that misapprehension,,,,
 
  • #62


Young previously pleaded guilty to manslaughter and not guilty to one count of murder.

On Friday, his lawyer Glenn Casement told the court his client now wanted to plead guilty to the more serious charge of murder.

“Mr Young, you’re charged with... at Sebastopol in Victoria on the fifth day of April 2024, you murdered Hannah McGuire, how do you plead – guilty or not guilty?” Young was asked.

“Guilty,” Young responded as he stared straight ahead.

As Justice James Elliott discharged the jury, McGuire’s family and friends clapped and embraced.
 
  • #63

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Young also facing rape, witness intimidation charges​

The man who murdered Ballarat woman Hannah McGuire is also facing rape, intimidation and witness harrassment charges, the Herald Sun can reveal.''''

(To possibly no one's surprise, Mr Young is also facing a myriad of other charges, some small, some awfully big, all of which will require more appearances of Mr Young at court.......) the witness harrassment charge is interesting, might be he had a few shots at O;Keefe, which may explain how come he was a witness for the prosecution... although , it's just as likely that VICPOL put it to O'Keefe that he either fronts up as their witness or faces charges of accessory after the fact....
 
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  • #65
There should be a warning thingo when his pic is about to float up.,..the horror of it ///f89fh4DSFFKJncn
 
  • #66
What a prick this guy is. He's played the game, got the victims family on the stand ( probably to his sick pleasure ) Sorry but there is something really evil about changing your plea mid trial & putting the victims thru all this ( not to mention the cost to us the tax payers )

What a total waste of space he is & always will be.
 
  • #67
The father of accused Ballarat killer Lachlan Young has been jailed over a terrifying aggravated burglary where he threatened to kill an innocent woman who his son wrongfully suspected of stealing his dog.

County Court judge Trevor Wraight convicted Anthony Young, 58, and sent him to prison for six months on Tuesday for what he described as “disturbing” conduct.

He also ordered that he be supervised on a two-year community correction order and undergo offending behaviour programs on his release.

In April, his son Lachlan Young was arrested over the murder of his former girlfriend, Hannah McGuire after her body was found in a burnt-out car near State Forest Road in Scarsdale, about 25 kilometres southwest of Ballarat.

Mr Young, 21, has pleaded not guilty to the single charge and has been remanded to face the Supreme Court at a later date.

On Tuesday the court heard the elder Young – a dad of three – had bashed in the garage door of a woman’s Sebastopol home and launched an “angry and violent” attack on her after his son, Lachlan, told him she had nicked their dog, in October 2022.

But Lachlan had lost control of the dog and it had run into her garage, unbeknown to her, as she used the remote to open and close the door on arriving home.
 
  • #68
Looks like father and son will be doing some jail-bonding time......
 
  • #69
What on earth was Hannah doin involved with this yobbo??
 
  • #70
Trooper said:
Looks like father and son will be doing some jail-bonding time......
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Absolutely unbelievable and quite horrific that there is another case on WS with similarities relating to bonding……or birds of a feather….. or the apple of their eye …… argh!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡

The Queensland murder of a home owner protecting his own property by 2 teenagers aged 15 and 17 just 4 days ago…… the 2 offenders were in need of their parents signature for court documents but their parents were in custody!!!!!



 
  • #71
And to add to the mix, I believe that Hannah's brother was jailed (again!) several days after his sister's body was found. Almost unbelievable! What sort of district and population is this??!!
 
  • #72

Hannah McGuire's grieving family is dealt another major blow just days after her alleged murder - as her brother Fletcher is jailed​



During the carjacking, either McGuire or Gray told the Commodore owner 'I will stab you 70 times', The Courier reported.

Judge Frank Gucciardo on Thursday spoke about the pair's criminal history and early drug use, noting Mcguire began using cocaine when he was just 13.

McGuire and Gray both also pleaded guilty to armed robbery. The court heard the pair had confronted a man travelling to the Apco service station on Gisborne Road, in Bacchus Marsh, about 6am on September 30, 2022 - one day after the carjacking.




www.dailymail.co.uk

Grieving family of Hannah McGuire are a dealt another major blow

The brother of Hannah McGuire has been sentenced to years behind bars just days after his sister's alleged murder.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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  • #73
And unbelievable.

The father of murderer Lachlan Young has been jailed over a terrifying aggravated burglary.



Herald Sun

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  • #74
Scooby-Doo said:

Hannah McGuire's grieving family is dealt another major blow just days after her alleged murder - as her brother Fletcher is jailed​



During the carjacking, either McGuire or Gray told the Commodore owner 'I will stab you 70 times', The Courier reported.

Judge Frank Gucciardo on Thursday spoke about the pair's criminal history and early drug use, noting Mcguire began using cocaine when he was just 13.

McGuire and Gray both also pleaded guilty to armed robbery. The court heard the pair had confronted a man travelling to the Apco service station on Gisborne Road, in Bacchus Marsh, about 6am on September 30, 2022 - one day after the carjacking.




www.dailymail.co.uk

Grieving family of Hannah McGuire are a dealt another major blow

The brother of Hannah McGuire has been sentenced to years behind bars just days after his sister's alleged murder.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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This is scary, it's not far from me. I have been known to fuel up there a time or two.
 
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  • #76
HoneyBunOne said:
Do we know if this is in relation to another woman, or Hannah? Not that it matters, rape is rape, but I'm just curious.
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On the grounds that a charge has been laid, and a trial in the offing, which means that the victim is prepared to testify at trial, it seems to me that whoever it is, is actually alive, and not one of Lachlans previous unluckily murdered victims.... it would be difficult to process a trial if the victim was deceased, although that has been done before ( see Christian Porter ) but not successfully. It would require film or written evidence.

SO ,,.. to put it succinctly. Not Hannah, but some unfortunate person still burdened with the consequences .
 
  • #77
Trooper said:
On the grounds that a charge has been laid, and a trial in the offing, which means that the victim is prepared to testify at trial, it seems to me that whoever it is, is actually alive, and not one of Lachlans previous unluckily murdered victims.... it would be difficult to process a trial if the victim was deceased, although that has been done before ( see Christian Porter ) but not successfully. It would require film or written evidence.

SO ,,.. to put it succinctly. Not Hannah, but some unfortunate person still burdened with the consequences .
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Thanks Trooper. It does make sense, I didn't really think it through.

It's a flawed system that requires a victim of such a horrendous act to give evidence in the way it's currently done, facing the accused and random strangers. I know it's their right, but I can't even imagine the strength it takes to do so. No wonder so many rape cases never get to court. I wish this poor victim strength and courage to face the accused and get any justice that may be owing her. MOO
 
  • #78
www.abc.net.au

The courtroom drama of Lachlan Young's murder trial

From start to finish the Lachlan Young trial for the alleged murder of Hannah McGuire was riddled with twists and turns. A look back on a turbulent eight days in court.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

( this article explains some of the factors in this sudden turn of direction )

Two versions of events​

The defence case led by Young's lawyer Glenn Casement hinged entirely on intent.

Across two weeks, Supreme Court jurors heard that Young killed Ms McGuire in the home they previously shared, that he placed her in the footwell of her car, and drove her out to nearby bushland where the vehicle was torched.

None of these facts were disputed.

The main points of difference were how Ms McGuire was killed.

The prosecution said she was suffocated, while the defence claimed Ms McGuire died when she hit her head against a bathroom sink during an argument with Young.

The only other point where the defence diverged was in relation to the role of Young's work friend, Benjamin O'Keefe, who was paid $45 to bring an extra car so Young had a lift home after his plan to "roofie" Ms McGuire and crash her vehicle with her inside.


For almost all of the witnesses there was little cross-examination by the defence, but when Mr O'Keefe took the stand Mr Casement changed his tune.

"Let's get to it, Mr O'Keefe. You were arrested for murder on 7 April 2024, agreed?" Mr Casement said as his opening question.

Over eight days there were plenty of expletives, tears, and stops and starts to evidence.

"Sorry, can I have a break? I just feel like I'm going to pass out," one of Ms McGuire's work colleagues told the court a few minutes into her testimony.

There were also many moments of tension, particularly between members of the public gallery.

When Young's father and sister attended court for day five, six and seven, they were subjected to looks and quiet, angry words from Ms McGuire's family and friends.

Ms McGuire's father, Clunes publican Glenn McGuire, turned his attention to Young after giving evidence that Young was a problem drinker with a temper who did not treat his daughter well.

"You f***ing animal," Mr McGuire mouthed as he walked past Young on his way out of the courtroom.


Young returns to court next Friday.....
 
  • #79
So it appears that the crucial element of intent was where it all fell down.

It must have become clear to Young and his barrister ( who would have realised this element way beforehand ) that his story of her falling down and hitting her head could not be sustained in the light of the evidence given about his stalking, violence, intimidating behaviour leading up to her death .

That the preponderance of evidence was that he most likely struck her deliberately. And that she died as a result of that . Added to that, his nonsensical messages pretending to be her, and pretending she had been taken by other people merely dug his own grave deeper.
 
  • #80
Both Ms McGuire's parents told jurors about Young's conduct after he murdered their daughter, including a bank transfer and series of text messages Young sent to them from Ms McGuire's phone pretending to be her and devised to make her death look like a suicide.

During her testimony, Ms McGuire's mother described several hysterical phone calls for help from her 23-year-old daughter during violent episodes involving Young.

Mr McGuire broke down while detailing his attempts to help his daughter escape the relationship with Young.

Throughout the entire trial Young, flanked by two police officers, sat expressionless at the back of the courtroom, eyes fixed ahead.

As each day went on, and more of Ms McGuire's family and friends gave evidence, the gallery seats filled.

On the final day the courtroom was packed to the door, with people even standing atop the back bench to see Young plead guilty to Ms McGuire's murder.

Ms McGuire's family left court without speaking to the media.
 
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