Australia, Husband charged years after wife drowned while kayaking in Queensland

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  • #41
Inthedetails said:
There was a case on the Hudson River where a girlfriend claimed her boyfriend capsized in a kayak. He drowned. I think many that involved rough waters? I don't recall the details, but that is what comes to mind.

FWIW, his story about standing in the kayak off-putting. He's not 15 years old.

jmopinion
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If he could stand in it then they weren't in the kind of kayak im picturing with an apron that seals you inside and requires you to do a wet exit (opening the apron) if you capsize or to have a fellow kayaker attempt a t rescue where they help you flip back over. So I assume this was more like a canoe ?
 
  • #42
It was a kayak of some kind…..

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www.abc.net.au

Husband charged with murder four years after wife's drowning death

A 55-year-old man has been charged with murder and fraud over his wife's death, initially considered an accidental drowning.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
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‘Ms Marco said Mr Davidson’s phone allegedly “ceased to exist on the network” at 11.14am - three-and-a-half hours before the triple-0 call and an hour after the couple set off on their kayaks.’

‘Ms Marco said the device had never been recovered and there was “inexplicable evidence” of its disconnection from the network.’

What are the odds of his device ceasing to exist on the network a few hours before he calls 000?

IMO it’s way too convenient, what was on that device that he didn’t want anyone knowing about?

Those who have nothing to hide…
 
  • #45

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Ms Marco said the device had never been recovered and there was “inexplicable evidence” of its disconnection from the network.



Mr Davidson was prepared to report daily, offer a substantial $250,000 surety offered by his family members, not go near international departure points, abide to a curfew and wear an ankle bracelet as part of his bail conditions.

He also indicated he would surrender both his Australian and British passports.

Justice Sullivan will deliver his decision on Mr Davidson’s bail application on Friday.





$250,000 surety seems to be the going amount for alleged murderers from the Defence Forces - and also their family offering to supply this amount. 🤝


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  • #47
www.abc.net.au

Man accused of wife's murder had 'inconsistencies' in story, court hears

A man accused of drowning his wife and staging it as a kayaking accident allegedly had "prominent" and "obvious" inconsistencies in his version of events, a court has heard.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

'Obvious' inconsistencies in story, court hears​

The court previously heard Mr Davidson told police his wife had fallen into the water while she was trying to take a photo of him.
He told them she had become stressed when he stood up in his kayak and used their "safe word" so he would stop, the court previously heard.

Mr Davidson was not sure what happened next, but the court previously heard sometime later he realised his wife was in the water, which he described as murky with plants beneath the surface, and he went in and pulled her out.
 
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  • #49
Marg944 said:
It was a kayak of some kind…..

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www.abc.net.au

Husband charged with murder four years after wife's drowning death

A 55-year-old man has been charged with murder and fraud over his wife's death, initially considered an accidental drowning.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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That is a very wide kayak with a low centre of gravity. It would be very difficult to fall out of this unless the waves were huge. In the unlikely event that a person fell out, the kayak floats so you could just hang onto it, and either get yourself back in, or push to shore where you could more easily get back in.

If she fell into murky, weedy water, as the husband claims, then the water was likely fairly shallow and near the shore.

His story stinks. I wonder if she knew that no personal floatation devices were brought along with the gear that day.
 
  • #50
Little Jack said:
If he could stand in it then they weren't in the kind of kayak im picturing with an apron that seals you inside and requires you to do a wet exit (opening the apron) if you capsize or to have a fellow kayaker attempt a t rescue where they help you flip back over. So I assume this was more like a canoe ?
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I’m more familiar with the type for whitewater and surfing ones as well. This was a sit on top, very stable and not prone to tipping. Used for lakes and fishing and paddling around, definitely not one for a faster river
 
  • #51
Quote: Mr Davidson was not sure what happened next, but the court previously heard sometime later he realised his wife was in the water.

My word!. It's not as if he was on a cruise ship, with a vast area to look around. It was a kayak.
 
  • #52
sapphire blue said:
‘Ms Marco said Mr Davidson’s phone allegedly “ceased to exist on the network” at 11.14am - three-and-a-half hours before the triple-0 call and an hour after the couple set off on their kayaks.’
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That's a convoluted sentence, lol. I need a timeline:
  • 10:15am Start kayak trip (without safety gear)
  • 11:14am Her phone disconnects
  • 2:45pm He calls for help (on his phone?)
jmo
 
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Here's what I'm gleaning from the article that the DM is calling admissions:

"A retired Australian Army major who moved to Thailand and married a younger woman after allegedly drowning his wife admitted he was living a 'cliché' in a message to a friend, a court has heard."



"Davidson married local woman Pick Pattraporn in December 2022, and made the 'cliché' confession in a message to his mate in 2023, the court heard.
'There are lots of divorcees out here, because there are no de facto laws and you can't lose 50 per cent of your s***,' he allegedly wrote."



"Last week, Mr Eberhardt argued the prosecution's case was 'fundamentally weak' and relied almost entirely on a comment made during a conversation in 2017.

According to Mr Eberhardt, the remark was made while Davidson and a friend were discussing another man whose wife had left him on the day of his retirement, taken half of his pension, and then moved to Thailand.

In response, Davidson allegedly said, 'Oh s*** yeah, I'd kill her and move to Thailand too.' "
 
  • #55
‘There are lots of divorcees out here, because there are no de facto laws and you can't lose 50 per cent of your s***,' he allegedly wrote."

Says it all doesn’t it, considering all marital assets as belonging to one person, lacking the comprehension that both partners contribute to the marriage.
 
  • #56
He sounds like one of those people who think whatever comes into the marriage is all theirs.
 
  • #57
If a kayak overturns, it is much easier to get out if a person is not wearing a life jacket, you just slip down out of the seat and up you go to the surface. When wearing a life jacket, it's more difficult because you have to go down to get out of the seat, and that's tricky when the life jacket is pushing you up. It is also possible to right an overturned kayak by using the paddles without leaving the seat. It just takes a bit of practice.

So it seems to me, more and more unlikely that she got into trouble in her kayak.
Unless she was drugged, she should have been able to save herself.
 
  • #58
musicaljoke said:
If a kayak overturns, it is much easier to get out if a person is not wearing a life jacket, you just slip down out of the seat and up you go to the surface. When wearing a life jacket, it's more difficult because you have to go down to get out of the seat, and that's tricky when the life jacket is pushing you up. It is also possible to right an overturned kayak by using the paddles without leaving the seat. It just takes a bit of practice.

So it seems to me, more and more unlikely that she got into trouble in her kayak.
Unless she was drugged, she should have been able to save herself.
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Is that true with the "open style" kayak? Not sure of the right terminology.

The kayak looks like this:

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source: Man accused of wife's murder had 'inconsistencies' in story, court hears
 
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musicaljoke said:
I donno, I can't even imagine this type of kayak overturning. It looks pretty darned sturdy.
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And, personally, I'd want my life jacket.

jmopinion
 
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