Australia Australia- Jane, 9, Arnna, 7, & Grant Jr., 4, Beaumont, 26 January 1966

[SouthAussie]

The Cadillac would be an even rarer car, especially in RHD. Pontiacs were assembled in Australia to get round import taxes & used locally made products for interior trim etc. One middle aged man abducting 3 children at the same time sounds difficult. Did Phipps have some help? Who's was the Cadillac?

There is a recent suggestion that the children might have been familiar with Phipps. So no help needed. Phipps' niece married the children's father's cousin. There may have been some family interactions prior to that.

 

[mrC]

it would depend on how close phips was to his niece and how close jim was to his cousin

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[DD Byrd]

Wow. That video really shows the sheer scale of the site. Especially how many meters deep it was to get to the "original surface" 46 mark) in 1966! They'd have the blueprints from changes, hopefully the originals and maybe even more directional help from the man across the street - like which house he was in so what his view would've been, where Phipps car was, etc. If it was Phipps, he could have easily added slabs, nonpermitted sheds, other filler in the years following.

 

[mrC]

does anyone think this case and the oval abduction might be the work of the same person

 

[sportstergirl]

does anyone think this case and the oval abduction might be the work of the same person

Could well be. A lot of similarities in both cases. 7 years is a long time for a serial killer to take a break though

 

[mrC]

abductions of more than one child at a time are very rare theres only been 3 in Australias history so what are the chances of 2 such cases happening in the same city by coincidence

 

[DD Byrd]

I guess it's possible, but it's hard to say since we don't even know if the MOs are different.

If Phipps had children in essence come to him by arriving at his house, that's wildly different than an abductor carrying a child out of the Oval with another following. If that's what happened in the latter, it's rather brazen, and I'm not convinced that sighting was an abduction. For the Beaumonts, it's more planned and conniving IMO.

One commonality is hiding in plain sight and blending in to a crowd (assuming Phipps was at the beach). And big crowds at that. A predator going to area with lots of children that may be separated from adults, rather than snatching them off the street with potentially fewer witnesses, but also requiring more patience.

 

[mrC]

if my theory is correct that the oval abduction is linked to this case and admittedly it is a big if

then its possible the case could be solved by cross-referencing the suspects in both cases can phips be linked to the oval can any of the oval suspects by linked to glenig beach if you can link someone to both cases you have almost certainly got the right man

 

[Bats]

if my theory is correct that the oval abduction is linked to this case and admittedly it is a big if

then its possible the case could be solved by cross-referencing the suspects in both cases can phips be linked to the oval can any of the oval suspects by linked to glenig beach if you can link someone to both cases you have almost certainly got the right man

Trouble is....
"Many of the suspects in the Beaumont children disappearance are also suspects in this case, including child killers Bevan Spencer von Einem and Derek Percy"

Disappearance of Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon - Wikipedia

 

[snarast]

does anyone think this case and the oval abduction might be the work of the same person

Yes. Not necessarily, though since the MO is quite different - the Beaumont children were groomed and coaxed. Kriste and Joanne, forcibly kidnapped.

 

[mrC]

yes the 2 cases have mostly the same suspects butif we could link one of those suspets to both events find evdence that links them to the crime on the day then we almost certainly have the right man i mean you can be linked to one event by accident but 2

 

[mrC]

we don't know for a fact the Beaumont kids were not taken by force they may have been and we dont know there was no attempt to groom the oval girls before there abduction

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Change of approach in new dig for missing Beaumont children

This week's dig for the missing Beaumont children has taken a significant turn as two key witnesses arrived at the Adelaide site to guide the investigation.

Brothers David and Robin Harkin returned to the site of the former Castalloy factory today, where they claim to have been paid as boys to dig a grave-like hole by the former owner, Harry Phipps, who many believe to be the prime suspect in the children's disappearance almost 60 years ago.

Their information changed the direction of the dig.

 

[SLouTh]

Hopefully this link will work ….. New Press Conference today …

https://fb.watch/x_nB_SO3WL

 

[SouthAussie]

They are now investigating a 4th area within the old Castalloy site. An old shed on a concrete slab used to stand there.
The two brothers (who dug the hole) have been at the Castalloy site this week, helping with information. They are named in this article.

Fourth possible site identified in search for missing Beaumont children

www.9news.com.au

 

[DD Byrd]

This makes me want to jump in the hole and dig by hand. We're talking meters that could hang in the balance, between aerial shots and 60 year old memories.

It's possible the children were never there, but I don't think the brothers have anything to gain by lying. They dug a hole for something.

 

[mrC]

i dont think for a minutethink the brothers are lying they certainly dug the hole but on its own,but that doesnt really mean much there could be many reasons he wanted a hole dug

 

[DD Byrd]

i dont think for a minutethink the brothers are lying they certainly dug the hole but on its own,but that doesnt really mean much there could be many reasons he wanted a hole dug

Correct. That is my point.

 

[SouthAussie]

Remember the TV travel personality I mentioned before, Andrew Costello from South Aussie with Cosi?
Several hours ago he posted on FB (Link) that, if this Castalloy dig doesn't work out, he and his wife are going to fund a dig at Stansbury (if the landowners are happy for them to do that).

There has been persistent speculation over the years that the children were buried or put in a sinkhole at Stansbury.
Stansbury is about 2½ hours away from Glenelg, on the Yorke Peninsula.


Re: Stansbury
Max McIntyre’s own son claims he helped abduct and murder the young trio, before burying their remains on his Yorke Peninsula property.
The smouldering heap on a remote Stansbury property looks like the remains of any backyard bonfire.
But Andrew McIntyre believes it could contain vital clues in the disappearance of the Beaumont Children.
“I think he may be getting rid of my father’s personal belonging which could implicate him,” Andrew said.

Mysterious fires burn as Beaumont disappearance suspect dies

Max McIntyre’s own son claims his father helped abduct and murder the children before burying them on his property.

au.news.yahoo.com

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/sa-media-personality-andrew-cosi-costello-vows-to-fund-fresh-beaumont-children-dig-at-stansbury/news-story/7abed2d89a1c6bb9c9e09420c37edc08?amp