Australia Australia- Jane, 9, Arnna, 7, & Grant Jr., 4, Beaumont, 26 January 1966

  • #141
It’s heroic, what they are doing.
 
  • #142
The search concludes without finding any bodies.

 
  • #143
The search concludes without finding any bodies.


I am glad they did the search, even if they didn't find anything. That land is scheduled to be sold, and once it has been built on it would likely be impossible to do a 'last dig' there.
 
  • #144
There was also a sighting of the Beaumont children reported by a staff member at Wenzel's Bakery, a stone's throw away. She stated that she served Jane Beaumont, who had used a 20-pound note to pay for purchases.

Just one little thing, Jane used a one pound note.

It is one of the (many) reasons that Phipps has been suspected. I have read in more than one place that Phipps would have a wad of one pound notes in his pocket.


Their parents, Jim and Nancy Beaumont, told police the children left home with sixpence but a shopkeeper recalled Jane buying pasties and a meat pie with a one-pound note.


Alan Whiticker is the co-author of The Satin Man, which first revealed Harry Phipps as a possible suspect.
Mr Whiticker believes Harry Phipps gained the children’s trust by giving them a one pound note, before luring them to his house, which was just hundreds of metres away.
“Harry Phipps was known to use pound notes … In giving a pound note to Jane Beaumont, he paid for more than enough lunch and ensured that she would come back and give him the change," he said.
Mr Whiticker believes Mr Phipps flew under the radar of police because of his wealth and status.

 
  • #145
IIRC the only person who KNEW the Beaumont children, and reported sighting them on that day was the bus-driver who knew them as frequent passengers. Initially he reported that, whilst driving the Somerton Park-Glenelg route, he had observed them walking back towards Somerton Park from Glenelg in the afternoon of that day. When queried on that detail, he stated that he may have been mistaken about the time of day, but was absolutely certain that he did see the Beaumont children (whom he knew well enough to have a chat as they boarded buses which he drove).
JMO

I think their postman recalls seeing the children as he remembered them waving. He initially said he saw them in the afternoon but then changed his statement to the morning and it matched the time they arrived in the Glenelg area. They were on the other side of the road and If I recall correctly, Jane waved at him and said "look, there's the postie!"
 
  • #146
IIRC the only person who KNEW the Beaumont children, and reported sighting them on that day was the bus-driver who knew them as frequent passengers.

There is a site called Unmasking the Killer of the Beaumont Children.
Apparently, the bakery shop assistant knew Jane well. Jane would go in there with Kath - her Paringa Park Primary School friend.
Different times, smaller communities. Locals who knew which children belonged to who.

imo

A shopkeeper at nearby Wenzel's Bakery, on Moseley Street, reported that Jane had bought pasties and a meat pie with a £1 note.
Police viewed this as further evidence that the Beaumont children had been with another person, for two reasons: the shopkeeper knew the children well from previous visits and reported that they had never purchased a meat pie before, and the children's mother had given them only six shillings and six pence, enough for their bus fare and lunch, and not £1.


(Relevant articles referenced at this link)
 
  • #147
Just one little thing, Jane used a one pound note.

It is one of the (many) reasons that Phipps has been suspected. I have read in more than one place that Phipps would have a wad of one pound notes in his pocket.


Their parents, Jim and Nancy Beaumont, told police the children left home with sixpence but a shopkeeper recalled Jane buying pasties and a meat pie with a one-pound note.


Alan Whiticker is the co-author of The Satin Man, which first revealed Harry Phipps as a possible suspect.
Mr Whiticker believes Harry Phipps gained the children’s trust by giving them a one pound note, before luring them to his house, which was just hundreds of metres away.
“Harry Phipps was known to use pound notes … In giving a pound note to Jane Beaumont, he paid for more than enough lunch and ensured that she would come back and give him the change," he said.
Mr Whiticker believes Mr Phipps flew under the radar of police because of his wealth and status.


Another little tidbit around the suspect Phipps is that an investigator was taken through the house by the widow after he died and was shown a cellar. In the cellar was a purse similar in description to Jane's bag. He returned with the police a couple of days later and the purse had been thrown out.

In the article below, it stated that Haydn's account has changed here and there. Such as saying he didn't hear any strange noises when the children arrived at the Phipps house but also saying he heard 4 gunshots on another occasion.

Beaumont Children – The Digital Labyrinth
 
  • #148
Just one little thing, Jane used a one pound note.

It is one of the (many) reasons that Phipps has been suspected. I have read in more than one place that Phipps would have a wad of one pound notes in his pocket.


Their parents, Jim and Nancy Beaumont, told police the children left home with sixpence but a shopkeeper recalled Jane buying pasties and a meat pie with a one-pound note.


Alan Whiticker is the co-author of The Satin Man, which first revealed Harry Phipps as a possible suspect.
Mr Whiticker believes Harry Phipps gained the children’s trust by giving them a one pound note, before luring them to his house, which was just hundreds of metres away.
“Harry Phipps was known to use pound notes … In giving a pound note to Jane Beaumont, he paid for more than enough lunch and ensured that she would come back and give him the change," he said.
Mr Whiticker believes Mr Phipps flew under the radar of police because of his wealth and status.

As previously stated, there is no definitive proof that the person whom the Wenzel's employee served (using a one-pound note on that day) was actually Jane. She claimed to have known that the young girl was Jane, as she had served her previously. She did not know Jane, or the Beaumont family personally. The point of my post was that there were thousands of people at that location on that day, and the bakery would have been incredibly busy, with staff providing customers with their requested goods and counting out change. The young girl who the employee served MAY have been Jane, and maybe it wasn't.There is certainly no definitive proof that it was.
Not just "one small thing" at all IMO.
 
  • #149
As previously stated, there is no definitive proof that the person whom the Wenzel's employee served (using a one-pound note on that day) was actually Jane. She claimed to have known that the young girl was Jane, as she had served her previously. She did not know Jane, or the Beaumont family personally. The point of my post was that there were thousands of people at that location on that day, and the bakery would have been incredibly busy, with staff providing customers with their requested goods and counting out change. The young girl who the employee served MAY have been Jane, and maybe it wasn't.There is certainly no definitive proof that it was.
Not just "one small thing" at all IMO.

The one small thing was you said a 20 pound note ... it was a one pound note.

The police seem quite convinced that the bakery staff member knew it was Jane, even if you are not.
She said that Jane went to that bakery frequently. She recognised her.

imo
 
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  • #150
the were convinced but then again if the police got everything right they would of solved the case
 
  • #151
the were convinced but then again if the police got everything right they would of solved the case

It is probably important to recognise the facts that they do know, and the facts that they don't know - like who actually took the children. They have about 6 different suspects, as far as we know.
 
  • #152
the place they need to search i think is Andrew McIntyres well
 
  • #153
Is it not possible that there is some truth in both of the main accounts? That there was co-operation between some of these people? e.g. that they were groomed by a younger man on the beach, died at the hands of Phipps and then the bodies were disposed of down the well by McIntyre/Munro? Like-minded individuals find one another and can work together, not necessarily as part of an organised "ring" but opportunistically.

The grave-sized hole was dug by Phipps but apparently not used. Perhaps its purpose was to frighten someone and the sight or knowledge of it was enough to ensure their silence. He would surely expect the boys to mention their hard labour to friends and family. They didn't say they were told to keep it a secret. So I think it had another purpose. (Of course Phipps probably enjoyed watching the boys dig it.)

I hope they do search the well.
 
  • #154
well we wont know unless we can get a search of the well
 
  • #155
The one small thing was you said a 20 pound note ... it was a one pound note.

The police seem quite convinced that the bakery staff member knew it was Jane, even if you are not.
She said that Jane went to that bakery frequently. She recognised her.

imo
I stand corrected regarding the note's denomination. We'll have to agree to disagree regarding how well the bakery staff member knew Jane. I have previously provided sources. I have also tried to explain how crowded it would have been at Colley Reserve, as well as Wenzel's. There would have been many hundreds of children interacting with hundreds of adults at Colley Reserve, and hundreds of children and adults jostling to be served at the bakery, with staff not having a spare moment to take a breath.
'"The police seemed convinced? "That is a very subjective comment, which I don't believe invalidates my opinion at all.
Investigations in that era were very different from today. Often, written statements were not even taken. Having served as a government investigator over many years, I simply think it is important to maintain objectivity - an open mind, and avoid assumptions. As I have previously stated "Jane may, or may not" have been the child who paid for her purchase with a pound one.
I think their postman recalls seeing the children as he remembered them waving. He initially said he saw them in the afternoon but then changed his statement to the morning and it matched the time they arrived in the Glenelg area. They were on the other side of the road and If I recall correctly, Jane waved at him and said "look, there's the postie!"
I think that this may be one and the same person, as IIRC, the changing of the time of his sighting of the children, as well as detail re the children being on the opposite side of the road is exactly what the bus-driver had stated.JMO
JMO
 
  • #156
unlike hayden McIntyres kids have given an exact location for where the bodys are allegedly buried why has McIntyres place never been dug up and why has nobody ever demanded that it is all it would need is a simple search of the well
 
  • #157
unlike hayden McIntyres kids have given an exact location for where the bodys are allegedly buried why has McIntyres place never been dug up and why has nobody ever demanded that it is all it would need is a simple search of the well

For the police to show little to no interest in digging up the well in Salisbury tells me they know more about that story than the public do. And, as the story goes, the children Andrew and Ruth, only "think" the bodies may be located there. Also part of the story is that their older sister, Claire, told Ruth she had seen their father help dispose of the children in a nearby dam. So a contradiction there. Still, it's worth a try...

I find it interesting that around the Glenelg beach that day there were "apparently", at least 3 (alleged and known) paedophiles (Harry Phipps, Tony Munro and Bevan Spencer von Eimen) and a known psycopath and child killer, Derek Percy.

I think about the description of the prime suspect-
"tall man with fair to light brown hair and a thin face, and in his mid-thirties"
...having a thin face is interesting to me. That is quite a distinguishing feature and someone describing someone else probably wouldn't say that unless they had a really noticeably thin face...its probably not a feature that is all that common either.
 
  • #158
bevan spencer liked teenage boys so he can be safely ruled There is no real evidence phips was a pedophile other than hes sons word was never convicted or even charged with being one
 
  • #159
they spent a fair bit of money digging up the phips properties Would it cost them that much more to dig up Macintyre's as well i mean they know where to look
 
  • #160
This is an interesting article from July 2025 issue of The Australian Women's Weekly.

The book, Unmasking the Killer of the Missing Beaumont Children by Stuart Mullins and Bill Hayes, Simon and Schuster, to be published 15 July.



It was the missing persons case that stole our innocence – three children snatched from an Adelaide beach in broad daylight on Australia Day, 1966. Now, almost 60 years later, an amateur sleuth and a retired police detective believe they have finally identified the man who abducted the Beaumont children.

Long article continues at link.
 

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