GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #3

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:welcome4:Welcome Eireann and Wolfie.
 
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Once again, I'm finding it hard to sleep. Can't get that vision of Jill in the CCTV footage out of head. Just can't stop wondering how that happened to her-there on that street with all that traffic and other people walking to and fro. Was just thinking too how having a mobile phone makes you feel safe and as though because you have a way of contacting people that nothing can go wrong. I often go walking at night with my daughter in our neighbourhood and we take a phone and think that we are ok. You can imagine Jill thinking she was so close to home and had a phone if she needed to contact someone in an emergency. How did he manage to do this horrific thing in that tiny 'window of opportunity'? This is just so awful!
 
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Another interpretation I have made of their body language is perhaps he told her he was plainclothes
This case is really tearing me up
(how could it not)

wouldnt she have been suss that he wasnt leading her back to the cop station which was just metres away though.
 
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Once again, I'm finding it hard to sleep. Can't get that vision of Jill in the CCTV footage out of head. Just can't stop wondering how that happened to her-there on that street with all that traffic and other people walking to and fro. Was just thinking too how having a mobile phone makes you feel safe and as though because you have a way of contacting people that nothing can go wrong. I often go walking at night with my daughter in our neighbourhood and we take a phone and think that we are ok. You can imagine Jill thinking she was so close to home and had a phone if she needed to contact someone in an emergency. How did he manage to do this horrific thing in that tiny 'window of opportunity'? This is just so awful!

Timmy, I understand how you feel. It is so hard to comprehend how someone could do this, as you say, opportunistic. All so damn unnecessary<modsnip>.
 
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Another interpretation I have made of their body language is perhaps he told her he was plainclothes
This case is really tearing me up
(how could it not)

A hug for you Possumheart. IMO the way you're feeling is in common with many other people around Australia and Ireland. A beautiful young life has been brutally ended <modsnip>. We are gripped with feelings of sadness and impotence as we saw her alone and helpless there in the night - <modsnip> - and we have learned of her horrendous fate. It is upsetting to many, male and female alike, to think that this has happened to her, how alone and vulnerable she was at that moment in time. We stand beside Jill's family, friends and colleagues in our feelings of sadness. :candle:

A hug for you Timmy.
 
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Hi BreakingNews
For some reason my Thanks button is not working so I thought I'd say Thanks in a reply. :)
 
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A hug for you Possumheart. IMO the way you're feeling is in common with many other people around Australia and Ireland. A beautiful young life has been brutally ended <modsnip>. We are gripped with feelings of sadness and impotence as we saw her alone and helpless there in the night - <modsnip> - and we have learned of her horrendous fate. It is upsetting to many, male and female alike, to think that this has happened to her, how alone and vulnerable she was at that moment in time. We stand beside Jill's family, friends and colleagues in our feelings of sadness. :candle:

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Thanks to you Fuskier. Such a lovely message. :)
 
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I don't like not being able to use my Thanks button!
 
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i cant find it on one of the earlier posts, but it states from an article one of the neighbours heard two cars rock up at 2am.
Has anyone made any sense of this yet. Not sure what is being speculated by police etc.
So thinking out loud, if alleged attack took place in brunswick after 1:43am, theres no way he'd be home by 2am after the assault.(<modsnip>
 
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Yah! :)
 
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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/victoria/at-the-dark-end-of-the-street-20120929-26skr.html

But as the week wore on and more details emerged, the 23-year-old nurse felt the horror of deep recognition.
A man had threatened to kill her late one night just two blocks from where Ms Meagher was last seen, and had menaced her in the same spot on an earlier occasion.




Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/at-the-dark-end-of-the-street-20120929-26skr.html#ixzz27re5tgol

Scary...

sheesh that is terrifying. How could the police not have taken it further. Amazing how she wouldnt have felt in so much danger to call 000 on the spot.
IMO it would have been investigated if there was a call out to 000 as they would be forced to attend the incident, rather than her attending a cop station to report it. How scared must she have felt and how let down too.
<modsnip>.
 
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Another interpretation I have made of their body language is perhaps he told her he was plainclothes
This case is really tearing me up
(how could it not)

I had another one Possum, to me her hands appeared up as refusing his help, as she did to her work colleague Tom Wright offering to accompany her on her walk home.

To me she was saying "no, I am fine thanks, I live here and will manage as usual"

His hand out (without GUN) says to me "Ok fine I will leave now, settle, don't get upset."

Different perception of a visual agree. But I saw my 'version' the very first time and it hasn't changed.

She then walked to left of screen without him there and I saw her ankles and shoes standing in bottom of left screen talking on phone at the time it was recorded to have been made to her brother.
 
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I had another one Possum, to me her hands appeared up as refusing his help, as she did to her work colleague Tom Wright offering to accompany her on her walk home.

To me she was saying "no, I am fine thanks, I live here and will manage as usual"

His hand out (without GUN) says to me "Ok fine I will leave now, settle, don't get upset."

Different perception of a visual agree. But I saw my 'version' the very first time and it hasn't changed.

She then walked to left of screen without him there and I saw her ankles and shoes standing in bottom of left screen talking on phone at the time it was recorded to have been made to her brother.

Imagine how her loved ones must feel watching that footage and trying to work out what was happening. It's 'doing my head in' so I can't imagine what it must be doing to them trying to piece it all together. It brings a whole other dimension in to it, doesn't it, when you have actual footage of the crime taking place? Her poor brother too-being on the other end of that call and now watching that footage! Just too awful to contemplate.
 
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<modsnip>, and whether in Jill's travels as a local she might have at been the tiniest familiar with his face perhaps? I made a bit of a connection (maybe silly) when a work colleague of hers said something in an interview on the ABC about how Jill was always the one to bring the cupcakes to work ... Overactive imagination perhaps on my part, but I linked cupcakes and pastry chef.
 
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Yes i thought of that, but a local actually buying a pizza may have better luck.

with a big tip? :waitasec: :twocents:
 
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