Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #12

[emirates1957]

Very true, Trooper! I've never ventured into Victorian territory , lived mostly between NSW and Qld, but if it's anything like the Blue Mountains when it snows, it's jam packed with Sydneysiders!

BTW, there's a Kwik N'Kleen self serve car wash 5 minutes from BR's house.

Normally for younger families venture to Macedon for the snow fall. A friend whom i work with has a milestone birthday on 05 August lives in Macedon, inviting a few of the locals. Will keep an ear out, hopefully for further insight.

 

[they'll get you]

I remember us anxiously worrying that Allison Baden-Clay may not have been dead when Gerbil threw her off that bridge.

Like Karen how really would they know until the signs were totally obvious.
He/they didn't have heart monitors etc, they wouldnt have known.
Really very sad.

:seeya: Laiden. It's great to see you here.

 

[they'll get you]

I think the journos have been reasonably well behaved throughout.

We wouldn't have heard about the Merc if a worker didn't call in to 3AW and took a snapshot. Only then did the media jump onto it.
During the police press updates they seemed exceptionally well behaved. I noticed one journo rolling her eyes when the reporter from ACA asked some questions maybe because IMO ACA can be a loose cannon.
I feel they are following what the police want the public to know.
Most journos are respecting the police tactics.

 

[they'll get you]

Heads up-ACA tonight interviews the woman who was raped before Karen Chetcuti was murdered while he was on parole.

 

[Liadan]

Thanks TGY - this is the same stuff, different case but same stuff!

I remember us anxiously worrying that Allison Baden-Clay may not have been dead when Gerbil threw her off that bridge.

Like Karen how really would they know until the signs were totally obvious.
He/they didn't have heart monitors etc, they wouldnt have known.
Really very sad.

:seeya: Laiden. It's great to see you here.

 

[Oz Jen]

CR writes very well. Interesting that he's only chosen to share his thoughts re Vasko's coincidental appearance at Karen's final resting place on that particular news site and not on his own FB or elsewhere.
No doubt ACA were tipped off.

CR either knows for a fact what went down re Vasko's reason for the visit to the site, (i.e. was present and overheard VR's convo with the detectives) or he absolutely believes what he's been told.

If CR is indeed correct, then yep, I may need to rethink my theory re VR's involvement. VR may be just an oddball personality, throwing out his own wild theories re Karen's disappearance.

Or he's in it up to his moccasins.

 

[emirates1957]

I have four and would happily loan you one.

Oh Chewie, might take you up on that.

 

[Oona]

Maybe a local can weigh in here, but in my experience Victorian forests are not particularly muddy due to the thick layer of leaf matter and twigs that cover the ground. The roads and tracks can be muddy after a lot of rain and the clay mud is quite difficult to remove.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Maybe a local can weigh in here, but in my experience Victorian forests are not particularly muddy due to the thick layer of leaf matter and twigs that cover the ground. The roads and tracks can be muddy after a lot of rain and the clay mud is quite difficult to remove.

This will give you a good overview of the soil in the area http://vro.agriculture.vic.gov.au/dpi/vro/nthcenregn.nsf/pages/nthcen_landform_campaspe_river_l-w_pdf/$FILE/campaspe%20macedon%20ls.pdf

 

[Adrianna]

So CR's friend has told him to not answer any posts asking questions about Karen

 

[Oz Jen]

So CR's friend has told him to not answer any posts asking questions about Karen

Yes he did. In response to several pointed questions. Not unrealistic for a friend to advise. IMO

 

[KG1]

CR gives a weather report for Mt Macedon (june 2015) and that it's a given BR couldn't drive the Merc in those conditions. I'm skeptical of his denials of what could or could not be done. Was there mention of snow by the eye witness who saw a man standing beside a black Merc coupe near the site on the 29th June? BR only needed that hour of reasonably good weather conditions to drive in for cover, and carry the body to the location it was discovered.
A dampened well trodden track can be driven on in a car and will leave little splattering of mud and dirt.

I agree with poster's theories that the body could have been taken somewhere else before the discovery site but I wouldn't rule out the other because of CR's claims. JMO

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This photo was taken at Mount Macedon during a snowfall last August.


http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/story/3978070/snow-forecast-for-ranges/

I think you may mean June 2016 in the first line of your quote.

 

[KG1]

I don't know about you, TGY, but , I reckon, one person could' nt do that. A dead body is terrifically awkward, and heavy.

Not one person , alone, I mean. ... taking into account the weather, and the location.. They must have looked at the grey snow clouds over Mt Macedon and realised it was going to take two. At least...slipping and sliding about in the muddy bush, visibility hampered, and these are not athletic blokes.....

Especially with rigor mortis, which may have inhibited any moves and made matters more difficult with lifting etc. MOO

 

[sosocurious]

CR writes very well. Interesting that he's only chosen to share his thoughts re Vasko's coincidental appearance at Karen's final resting place on that particular news site and not on his own FB or elsewhere.
No doubt ACA were tipped off.

CR either knows for a fact what went down re Vasko's reason for the visit to the site, (i.e. was present and overheard VR's convo with the detectives) or he absolutely believes what he's been told.

If CR is indeed correct, then yep, I may need to rethink my theory re VR's involvement. VR may be just an oddball personality, throwing out his own wild theories re Karen's disappearance.

Or he's in it up to his moccasins.

There is the covered woman in the passenger seat, that would have her story to tell as to why Vasko was there.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

I think you may mean June 2016 in the first line of your quote.

Ooops, thank you KG1.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

CR writes very well. Interesting that he's only chosen to share his thoughts re Vasko's coincidental appearance at Karen's final resting place on that particular news site and not on his own FB or elsewhere.
No doubt ACA were tipped off.

CR either knows for a fact what went down re Vasko's reason for the visit to the site, (i.e. was present and overheard VR's convo with the detectives) or he absolutely believes what he's been told.

If CR is indeed correct, then yep, I may need to rethink my theory re VR's involvement. VR may be just an oddball personality, throwing out his own wild theories re Karen's disappearance.

Or he's in it up to his moccasins.

If what CR said is correct I wonder why VR didn't just say that to Martin King at the time, his reason for being there[emoji848] ...... and I'm sure they would have been approached by 60 Minutes to tell their side of story, wonder why no-one's speaking up, if it would clear up public misconceptions .....

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[Cads]

Maybe a local can weigh in here, but in my experience Victorian forests are not particularly muddy due to the thick layer of leaf matter and twigs that cover the ground. The roads and tracks can be muddy after a lot of rain and the clay mud is quite difficult to remove.

Hi Oona - I'm a local.
I am also the one that wrote about 30,000 threads ago - wet wet wet.... lol
Its a slippery area. I questioned a Merc driving up Loch Rd - cause at the Salisbury bit when wet - it can be very slippery. I got myself a little stuck there once about 2 years ago and needed to engage 4 x 4 to get out. But after a sighting of a Merc in Childers rd, I wonder now if he drove along Childers, into Salisbury and down Loch. Making it accessable by going the other way.
It still baffles me as to why he buried her on the housing side - but anyway ... no doubt that will come out one day.
If we have a good rain season (which we did when she went missing) then it can be a very slippery place. Access to her actual burial site would have been by carrying or dragging. There is a lot of clay patches in the area.
I have no doubt the police recently tested the area in the Merc due to the mud / dirt around the rear wheel arches - my own car gets dirty around there.
I just wish I was out there to see the Merc being put through its paces....

 

[Cads]

There is the covered woman in the passenger seat, that would have her story to tell as to why Vasko was there.

I often wonder who she is and would no doubt be able to answer why he was there.
Was it a tip off???
Bit coincidental to be at the same place at the same time...
And Karens resting place isn't exactly on the side of the road with neon lights showing you where to go.... you need to know where exactly to go... its a walk into scrub to find it. Did he know where to go exactly... cause he has perhaps been there before???? One needs to ask that question...

 

[decsimp]

And Karens resting place isn't exactly on the side of the road with neon lights showing you where to go.... you need to know where exactly to go... its a walk into scrub to find it. Did he know where to go exactly... cause he has perhaps been there before???? One needs to ask that question...

Flowers have been left at the site before so maybe police showed family where she was found

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/b...s-murder-his-lawyer-says-20170222-guihl1.html

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[sosocurious]

Weather looks pretty good in the cctv footage at Diggers Rest ..... and hey, if road was unsuitable for Merc, well, that could have been when they did the car switch .... just a thought [emoji848]

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It has been a complex and, at times, frustrating case for the small team of Missing Persons Squad detectives working around the clock to crack it. The police numbers crisis has touched most departments in Victoria Police and the Missing Persons Squad is no exception.

It is not uncommon for the police officers who are working on the case to take their work home with them.

Hundreds of hours of CCTV has been painstakingly studied again and again in the hope it will yield the vital piece in the jigsaw which will reveal Ms Ristevski’s fate.

Yesterday, police searched a number of dams. Locals commented that at the time Ms Ristevski went missing, most of the dams were dry.

Dec 20 2016
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...s/news-story/baf9191497eb599591ad1ea8b443b375