Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #13

[Puggle]

Ooh, yes, Puggle, at that point I thought there was a bloke in the back but Oona pointed out that there is no back, it's a two seater, hee hee, so that must be optical illusion or ghost [emoji848] .... but there could well be someone in front passenger seat, shall investigate further and focus on that and driver [emoji4]

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Yes its only a two seater ...... but have a look at the re enactment footage and notice where the person is situated.

The seats can be pushed forward to accomadate someone will smaller legs .....



The passenger ...or should I say the person you thought was sitting in "back seat" ..... could simply be sitting in the furthest back setting for the seat .... if that makes sense.

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

I also see two people. This has been my feeling from the first time we saw these pics. I think it's a female driver, most likely KR or SR. Also, there was a discussion that maybe there is a P-plate on the front of the car, as seen in the front-on pic going around the round-about.


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[sosocurious]

Itsapuzzle ....... here is the screenshot you got.... its from a slightly different angle.

I am hopeless with theses cctv snaps as you are all probably aware I can only see a white blob.
I was trying to get my bearings of where a passenger and/or driver would be positioned in the identical car in a similar position that was used for the enactment.
Albeit a much clear camera shot, it did give me something to compare and I do think I can see what you were referring to Itsa.



http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-movements-of-karen-ristevskis-black-mercedes

 

[sosocurious]

I also see two people. This has been my feeling from the first time we saw these pics. I think it's a female driver, most likely KR or SR. Also, there was a discussion that maybe there is a P-plate on the front of the car, as seen in the front-on pic going around the round-about.


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Hmmm does seem to be something more than the merc badge....westside



http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-movements-of-karen-ristevskis-black-mercedes
http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...r/news-story/2d25ebc32744cc09f4a05298e23ff5b9

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

Hmmm does seem to be something more than the merc badge.

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http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-movements-of-karen-ristevskis-black-mercedes
http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...r/news-story/2d25ebc32744cc09f4a05298e23ff5b9

Thanks for digging this up soso! You're the best.


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[Puggle]

Hmmm does seem to be something more than the merc badge.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-movements-of-karen-ristevskis-black-mercedes
http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...r/news-story/2d25ebc32744cc09f4a05298e23ff5b9

The measurement from each headlight to the centre shows the emblem .... there does appear to be something on the left just above the licence plate ...

Wow .... brilliant pick up.

 

[Oona]

Itsapuzzle ....... here is the screenshot you got.... its from a slightly different angle.

I can see the head you are referring to Puggle, now that I have seen it I can't unsee it.
But logic is telling me that the space it is in is up high on the parcel shelf behind the headrests.
It may be a ghost or a big baby but to me it kind of looks like a Richard E Grant :dunno:

 

[CalliopeGG]

Here is tappedin's rather brilliant diagram from 19 June. Hope it helps clarify things.

We noticed that thing in the front previously also. What IS it???

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

Here is tappedin's rather brilliant diagram from 19 June. Hope it helps clarify things.

We noticed that thing in the front previously also. What IS it???

It's really so good. Thanks again tappedin!


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[Puggle]

Has anybody else when reviewing the footage thought some pixelation has been manipulated? .....

A few shots when I zoom in on that back rear triangular window area look strange .... could just be me??

 

[Puggle]

I can see the head you are referring to Puggle, now that I have seen it I can't unsee it.
But logic is telling me that the space it is in is up high on the parcel shelf behind the headrests.
It may be a ghost or a big baby but to me it kind of looks like a Richard E Grant :dunno:

Lol..... had to look up Richard E Grant .... yep kinda does in a way...

I have no explanation for that....

I'm trying to focus on what background shadows show behind the car, that also show through the car ....
and what shadows are blocked by something inside the car.

Then there is the actual shape of the car itself and what should cause internal shadows .... could be 100% wrong .... but a few shots are blocking the internal shhadows ...

they I cant explain either ..... my logical mind says something has to be within that space..

Gee I wish I could word things better....grr

 

[tmar]

Here is tappedin's rather brilliant diagram from 19 June. Hope it helps clarify things.

We noticed that thing in the front previously also. What IS it???

Calliope. Where driver is stated, isn't that passenger?
The driver side is on the side of car, away from us. Is that correct?
Now all muddled.

 

[Puggle]

It's really so good. Thanks again tappedin!


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It really is very very good ..... the angles of the cars are spot on.

 

[sosocurious]

Here is tappedin's rather brilliant diagram from 19 June. Hope it helps clarify things.

We noticed that thing in the front previously also. What IS it???

Is that coupe a 2 seater or a 4 seater?
The 2 headrests on one side made me think it was a 4 seater.

 

[CalliopeGG]

Calliope. Where driver is stated, isn't that passenger?
The driver side is on the side of car, away from us. Is that correct?
Now all muddled.

I think it depends how you perceive it tmar. I initially saw it that way too, but now I can see what the others have been saying this evening could be right as well, if Richard E Grant (it DOES look like him) is sitting in the passenger seat.

 

[Itsapuzzle]

The measurement from each headlight to the centre shows the emblem .... there does appear to be something on the left just above the licence plate ...

Wow .... brilliant pick up.

If it's a P plate on the front it will need to have one on the back too, can anyone see back of car as it crosses railway line, any possible P plate there?[emoji848]

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[CalliopeGG]

Is that coupe a 2 seater or a 4 seater?
The 2 headrests on one side made me think it was a 4 seater.
imo

I'm not sure about that Soso. I got so confused last time about all that. It really did my head in. I'll ask tappedin.

 

[sosocurious]

Car identical to Karens



http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-movements-of-karen-ristevskis-black-mercedes

 

[Puggle]

Car identical to Karens

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-movements-of-karen-ristevskis-black-mercedes

Two seater .... Roll bars behind seats.

 

[Puggle]

If it's a P plate on the front it will need to have one on the back too, can anyone see back of car as it crosses railway line, any possible P plate there?[emoji848]

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I Couldn't tell from the footage ... too far away.