Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #15 *Arrest*

[Deleted member 102539]

What do you guys see in this photo?

I see Sarah leaning in and pushing Borce away. I see Sarah wanting to run and shaking her head ‘no’ to questions.

When the reporter asks if he could ask Borce a question it’s Sarah who shakes her head no.

Could Borce be about to answer this reporters question? Possibly yes.
Aunt Patricia interjects with “Borce is really distressed at the moment”......

Yes Sarah is a person who doesn’t want to face life’s problems. She wanted to run that day and maybe that’s the same reason she’s been hiding overseas.

Could she be the type to decide the hiding of Karen’s body?

There’s something about Sarah....
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11959378

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I see a young woman who is looking rather querulous than honestly sad most times just as in this pic. She is guiding her father more than the other way round. So she isn't in any fear of her father, general and in this special situation of possible crime at her home. IMO

 

[tmar]

This reminds me of what Aunt Patricia had to endure during a press conference. They knew it was him.
Take a look at the video of murderers body language and the police were studying him throughout the appeal.


The parents of a missing teacher, who was found buried in a shallow grave this week, said they soldiered through a news conference with their daughter’s accused killer because they were desperate to find out what happened to her.



https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/...girlfriends-murder-ordered-held-without-bond/

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The Police were great in this case, setting this up.
Another 'creep' treating their partner atrociously, this being such a common occurence.
Then claiming 'innocence', the jerks, putting families in more pain at the trials.

Put them all behind bars TOGETHER.
Let them sort themselves out !!!!

 

[Bohemian]

I see a young woman who is looking rather querulous than honestly sad most times just as in this pic. She is guiding her father more than the other way round. So she isn't in any fear of her father, general and in this special situation of possible crime at her home. IMO

I think her actions (or seemingly lack thereof) post-interview have been questioned, particularly her reported refusal to continue cooperating with police after her father was suspected of being responsible for her mother’s disappearance. I’m keeping an open mind with regard to Sarah. Denial of a loved one’s alleged culpability irt a serious crime isn’t unusual. Who knows — she may have had a recent ‘epiphany’. It happens. Only time and the trial will tell.

 

[they'll get you]

I think her actions (or seemingly lack thereof) post-interview have been questioned, particularly her reported refusal to continue cooperating with police after her father was suspected of being responsible for her mother’s disappearance. I’m keeping an open mind with regard to Sarah. Denial of a loved one’s alleged culpability irt a serious crime isn’t unusual. Who knows — she may have had a recent ‘epiphany’. It happens. Only time and the trial will tell.

Yes she could have realised that she had been told untruths.



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[Bohemian]

Yes she could have realised that she had been told untruths.



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She may have been as much of an alleged victim as was her mother.

 

[they'll get you]

She may have been as much of an alleged victim as was her mother.

I agree Sarah is a victim in this as she has lost her mother and could loose her father for many years.
I guess we’ll have to wait to see.



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[Jennifer17]

I think her actions (or seemingly lack thereof) post-interview have been questioned, particularly her reported refusal to continue cooperating with police after her father was suspected of being responsible for her mother’s disappearance. I’m keeping an open mind with regard to Sarah. Denial of a loved one’s alleged culpability irt a serious crime isn’t unusual. Who knows — she may have had a recent ‘epiphany’. It happens. Only time and the trial will tell.

I know a family where the father beat the mother to death. He was unemployed and she was working, and he filled his days in by going to the beach, sucking on bongs and going to the pub. They had three sons, two of them will not have it that their father, killed her, despite a wealth of evidence and they, grown up now are waiting for the day he will be released and they will play happy families again, but everyone knows that he will just leach off them for the rest of his life.

 

[Bohemian]

I agree Sarah is a victim in this as she has lost her mother and could loose her father for many years.
I guess we’ll have to wait to see.



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I’m hoping that’s the case. I’m the eternal optimist. In the beginning, I was hoping BR wouldn’t be named as a suspect/charged irt Karen’s disappearance and death. Time changes a lot of things.

 

[they'll get you]

I’m hoping that’s the case. I’m the eternal optimist. In the beginning, I was hoping BR wouldn’t be named as a suspect/charged irt Karen’s disappearance and death. Time changes a lot of things.

Yes time does change a lot of things. Karen is dead. That will never change.

Very early I suspected BR because he was the last to see Karen alive and they had argued.
Hey he could be innocent but I doubt it.


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[SouthAussie]

I don't know ... if Sarah was so innocent and naive in her knowledge, why did she refuse to assist the police? So they may have been pointing the finger at her father. So what? If Borce was so innocent, in Sarah's belief, why would she be afraid to pass along whatever she may have known? Defend her father ... and continue to assist until her mother was found?

But, no, she clammed up.

I think she has suspected, or known, for a long time - since a day or two after Karen went missing - what the truth of this matter is. At about the time she, herself, publicly stopped appealing for help to find Karen.

 

[they'll get you]

Police have been accused of pressuring the daughter of murdered Melbourne woman Karen Ristevski to turn against her father, according to a family insider.

Sarah Ristevski, 22, stopped co-operating with detectives trying to solve her mother’s murder last year when her dad Borce was named a suspect in his wife’s death.

Mr Ristevski has maintained his innocence throughout the investigation.

Today news.com.au revealed Sarah turned her back on police because she continues to support her father and maintains he is innocent.

A family friend told the publication that police interviewing tactics led to a total breakdown in relations between the police and the family.

“They were all cooperative at the start, [and] let the police interview them,” the friend said in a series of messages to news.com.au.

“Their houses, cars and phones were and maybe still are bugged, I’m sure. I think they just got sick of it because what first was questioning turned into abuse.”

The friend believes the relationship turned sour when detectives pushed Sarah to “turn on her dad because [police believe] he’s guilty”.

http://www.oversixty.com.au/finance...istevskis-daughter-stopped-talking-to-police/


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[they'll get you]

“They were all cooperative at the start, (and) let the police interview them,” the friend said in a series of messages to news.com.au.

“Their houses, cars and phones were and maybe still are bugged, I’m sure. I think they just got sick of it because what first was questioning turned into abuse.”

http://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting...e/news-story/ec79983dbefc0cff570e65349e36c847




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[Jennifer17]

I wonder who Sarah thought murdered her mother and left her to rot between two fallen branches? I wonder if she has ever thought about that. Why wasn't she making appeals to find the murderer of her mother?

Nope, she went to ground as soon as her mother's body was discovered. I don't think that she was involved at all, but I do think that she pushed any thought that Borce may have done it, to the back of her mind.
Spoilt little girl whose father was still there to bankroll her, for her overseas trips and living expenses. The apple does not fall far from the tree.

 

[they'll get you]

....... because what first was questioning turned into abuse.”

Abuse? :floorlaugh: oh palease.

Did the cops use a phone book on him?

So that’s what “book him Danno” means.



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[Bohemian]

Yes time does change a lot of things. Karen is dead. That will never change.

Very early I suspected BR because he was the last to see Karen alive and they had argued.
Hey he could be innocent but I doubt it.


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Yes, my optimism was very quickly deflated after MSM reported on the locations of the mobile phone ‘pings’.

 

[MissUnderstood]

To be totally honest, I'm not too sure how different my reactions would be to Sarah's. I don't think my heart or head could process the thought that one of my parents murdered the other! Looking in from the outside we see things clearer. I can't bring myself to judge her odd behaviour, I really think she is just in utter denial. Moo.


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[Bohemian]

She did, however, contact MPAN. Me? I would’ve cooperated with investigators.

‘The daughter of Melbourne woman Karen Ristevski has sought aid from a missing person’s group as she launches her own search to find her mother.

Sarah Ristevski, 21, got in contact with the Missing Persons Advocacy Network around six days after her mother was last seen leaving her Avondale Heights home in Melbourne's north-west on June 29 after having a heated argument with her husband Borce over finances.

The non-for-profit organisation, which seeks to reunite loved ones, has been in contact with the younger Ms Ristevski and has acted as a support network to the young woman.

The network is run by Loren O’Keeffe, who only recently found her brother after he went missing in 2011.

Ms O'Keeffe told Daily Mail Australia she has advised Ms Ristevski's daughter but since the network does not ‘associate with criminal cases’ the advice has been minimal.

‘Our graphic designer designed the posters for the mum [Mrs Ristevski] and we help with different ideas around engaging the public but we certainly don’t engage ourselves with suspicious cases like that of Karen’s,’ Ms O’Keeffe said.

Due to the network being a separate entity it works privately in offering assistance to those with missing loved ones and thus avoids aiding cases that are being investigated by police.

The 21-year-old daughter has chosen to remain silent since starting to conduct her own search.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...law-claims-hiding-overseas.html#ixzz4kDwK1H75

 

[aust amateur slueth]

To be totally honest, I'm not too sure how different my reactions would be to Sarah's. I don't think my heart or head could process the thought that one of my parents murdered the other! Looking in from the outside we see things clearer. I can't bring myself to judge her odd behaviour, I really think she is just in utter denial. Moo.


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severe cognitive dissonance - it would be difficult enough just to cope with her mother being missing and then being found murdered, let alone to also wrap her head around her father probably having murdered her mother, it's not something a child of any age would want to believe about their parent.

 

[SouthAussie]

To be totally honest, I'm not too sure how different my reactions would be to Sarah's. I don't think my heart or head could process the thought that one of my parents murdered the other! Looking in from the outside we see things clearer. I can't bring myself to judge her odd behaviour, I really think she is just in utter denial. Moo.


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severe cognitive dissonance - it would be difficult enough just to cope with her mother being missing and then being found murdered, let alone to also wrap her head around her father probably having murdered her mother, it's not something a child of any age would want to believe about their parent.

I can understand her being in denial.

But the non-cooperation with the police? Could you see yourself doing that? That is what I am questioning. That is the part that makes absolutely no sense to me. No matter who the police thought committed the murder.

If I was in denial that my father was the murderer, I believe I would maintain that stance, but answer any questions the police had, and continue to do so. I would still want my mother's murderer caught. Especially because I believed it was not my father.

If there was nothing pointing to the murderer being Borce, why would she not answer any questions honestly? And continue to do so.

 

[JLZ]

To be totally honest, I'm not too sure how different my reactions would be to Sarah's. I don't think my heart or head could process the thought that one of my parents murdered the other! Looking in from the outside we see things clearer. I can't bring myself to judge her odd behaviour, I really think she is just in utter denial. Moo.


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I can relate to that, but, I think the reasons I'd stick by one parent are close to being the same reasons that would prevent them from murdering each other.