Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #16 *Arrest*

[Trooper]

and if the starting point for Karens' death is 8.59am, predicated on the last time she made an entry into her laptop.. well.. . anyone can make an entry if the thing is still on..

This thing is Uber-murky, and we haven't got to the actual murder itself , as yet.

Vlasko.. a key man in this shindig, unless he has had 'urgent business' in Macedonia ( which has no reciprocal arrest rights with AU, conveniently. )

 

[Trooper]

I would very much like to see Borce's bookie on the stand to outline just how much Borce, and maybe Vlasko as a betting partner were into the Bookie's bag for..

Somewhere in the multiple thousands , I suspect, above the debts all ready mentioned, since bookie's debts are not collectible thru the usual channels.

And how much did Sarah know of the parent's financials?.. she says they were a very close family. Very close. People talk about money all the time, and people in debt tend to talk of nothing else, so it's reasonable to assume Sarah heard a lot of those type of 'conversations'.... day and night, year in , year out, probably.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

After all, it has been a "fight", not a conversation. So I think, she was ridiculed with "thunder thighs", IMO. Slim Karen was not, that's for sure.

How to be wrong, haha! SR slightly has (I saw a new pic in front of court ...) and Karen feared to get them (if eating forbidden things, which Borce brought along). And that was a "fight" in the peaceful household? And one has to be "upset", when telling about in the stand?? -

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Did we have had a show of this ^^^^ today? How sweet.

 

[drsleuth]

How to be wrong, haha! SR slightly has (I saw a new pic in front of court ...) and Karen feared to get them (if eating forbidden things, which Borce brought along). And that was a "fight" in the peaceful household? And one has to be "upset", when telling about in the stand?? -

Looked like she was in her " active wear" when the pants were probably some designer label

 

[tmar]

more and more I am revising my general reluctance to lump Sarah in with Borce…. but after today's shambolic testimony, I am truly finding it hard to believe that Sarah even left that morning before Karen's death. Certainly, everyone, alive and/or dead left that house that day, to go in different directions...….

Horrible?.. outrageous?.. impossible?

Troops, you are more game than me.
Check out my posts 668, and 633 (deleted as worried, but visible initially to a few), going against the flow, without being as clear as you.
Perhaps 'time', evidence, Matt may help.
Again, just my own thoughts.

 

[sosocurious]

more and more I am revising my general reluctance to lump Sarah in with Borce…. but after today's shambolic testimony, I am truly finding it hard to believe that Sarah even left that morning before Karen's death. Certainly, everyone, alive and/or dead left that house that day, to go in different directions...….

Horrible?.. outrageous?.. impossible?

If Sarah had left for work. It was at Bella Bleu.
So she would have known Mum did not turn up for work on the Wednesday after she had done as Borce told her and paid the 850 on the credit card.

Arnott's snacks will forever remind me of Boris.

 

[Trooper]

Troops, you are more game than me.
Check out my posts 668, and 633 (deleted as worried, but visible initially to a few), going against the flow, without being as clear as you.
Perhaps 'time', evidence, Matt may help.
Again, just my own thoughts.

It has never made any sense to me that Sarah would REMAIN IN THE FAMILY HOME, the place her mother mysteriously disappeared from, even more so if a 'random stranger' murdered Karen, her death most likely took place IN THE FAMILY HOME .

And yet, weirdly, with no fear, no expectation of the 'random stranger' coming back to murder them, Borce and Sarah, which is the uppermost thought in any sane persons mind, no.. nope , not a bit of it, they prop there, and Borce gets a job on the roads as a traffic signaler!!.. goes out and comes back every day in a routine!..

their very lack of caution belies the story they are promoting.

 

[they'll get you]

Looked like she was in her " active wear" when the pants were probably some designer label

I can't find the photo outside court today. Tell me where I can see please?
I doubt this is her best side tho.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

It sounds like Sarah really doesn't believe he did it. Poor girl, time to face facts.

It seems, Ant is not sure either, just like her. How did Borce manage that, I wonder.

 

[they'll get you]

If Sarah had left for work. It was at Bella Bleu.
So she would have known Mum did not turn up for work on the Wednesday after she had done as Borce told her and paid the 850 on the credit card.

Arnott's snacks will forever remind me of Boris.

Arnott's snacks will forever remind me of Sarah.

 

[sosocurious]

* Aunt P flew from Sydney to Melbourne the day after Karen disappeared.
* She spoke to Borce about hiring a private investigator.
* When she contacted a friend who did that line of work Borce said it was "out of his league"
* Aunt P answered yes when she was asked had her opinion of Borce changed.


Category: | Herald Sun
Sarah Ristevski gives evidence at committal hearing

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I can't find the photo outside court today. Tell me where I can see please?
I doubt this is her best side tho.

Borce Ristevski breaks down as daughter gives evidence

 

[Morrisa]

Borce Ristevski breaks down in court as his daughter gives evidence | Daily Mail Online

He would go out and buy milk and return with biscuits as well.

'Dad would say "well the Shapes are only a dollar each" and mum would say "but now I'm going to eat them and my thighs will get fat",' Sarah said.

'That would be an argument for me.'

 

[steve richardson]

It's become obvious throughout the whole ordeal SR was spoilt and got most things she wanted. After today's performance it's clearly evident one thing she didn't ever want was 'acting' classes.

 

[drsleuth]

Borce Ristevski breaks down as daughter gives evidence

 

[tmar]

and if the starting point for Karens' death is 8.59am, predicated on the last time she made an entry into her laptop.. well.. . anyone can make an entry if the thing is still on..

This thing is Uber-murky, and we haven't got to the actual murder itself , as yet.

Vlasko.. a key man in this shindig, unless he has had 'urgent business' in Macedonia ( which has no reciprocal arrest rights with AU, conveniently. )

There is more to come. This is just the start. We know very little.
I agree, anyone, having the password or connection, from phone or laptop, could make that entry.
I can make an entry, on my laptop sitting at home, while walking about, miles away from my phone.
Perhaps Police could calculate whether laptop entry is made from that Laptop, but perhaps, not who made the entry.
There is another case, here on Websleuths, (? suicide, ? murder), and we are wondering if alleged murderer, made the last entry, posing as the dead victim. (Also a few more, which you are probably aware of, posing as the victim, after their deaths).

Looking forward to Vlasko, with his explanation, especially at the Macedon site, knowing where it was.
Also the intercepted phone calls will be great, implicating WHO.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

If Sarah had left for work. It was at Bella Bleu.
So she would have known Mum did not turn up for work on the Wednesday after she had done as Borce told her and paid the 850 on the credit card.

Arnott's snacks will forever remind me of Boris.

I read: she left the house for going to University.

 

[Trooper]

the debt they all lived under was rising exponentially, day by day, compounding, doubling, tripling, every week, another lump of cash bleeding out, and none coming in.
There would be really horrid mail, every day, threatening mail, nasty mail, hopeless embarrassing mail, there would be phone calls, there would be knocks on the door.

There would hideous sleepless hours, frantic twisting and turning , and costs of every day necessities rising, week by week.

And Sarah says, they argued over Shapes versus milk. I just don't believe it.

Which leads me to, why is she lying?

 

[sosocurious]

I read: she left the house for going to University.

The alleged murder occurred between 8.58am and 10.43am on a Wednesday morning after the couple’s then 21-year-old daughter Sarah had left home for work.
Ristevski daughter breaks silence

Work - Uni or maybe not left the house at all. Who would know.