Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #9

[Karinna]

Witness protection?? haha, you kidding me..you really have too much faith in our institutions.
They know who he is, where he and family lives... Cant be in hiding forever

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There are WPP's in Aus. As to their efficiency i'm not really sure
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Mr Kowalick says that until now, witness protection arrangements in Australia have not been exposed to scholarly examination.

“The programs operate in secret, seemingly with little accountability. Some confidentially is obviously required, particularly in relation to the identity and location of participants in a witness protection program, but those conducting the programs rely on legal provisions to avoid answering any questions at all about how they operate.

“Historically speaking, witness protection programs have been successful and have supported the criminal justice system in the fight against serious and organised crime.
https://blog.une.edu.au/news/2014/02/18/lifting-the-lid-on-witness-protection-in-australia/

 

[Karinna]

Who is BK? I'm lost.


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I was wondering the same thing? Maybe the poster meant BR?

 

[sleepinoz]

Do we know how old BK is? and also where AR's mother is?

If you mean BR his DOB is 14-03-1964

 

[Didi1201]

There are WPP's in Aus. As to their efficiency i'm not really sure
(quote)
Mr Kowalick says that until now, witness protection arrangements in Australia have not been exposed to scholarly examination.

“The programs operate in secret, seemingly with little accountability. Some confidentially is obviously required, particularly in relation to the identity and location of participants in a witness protection program, but those conducting the programs rely on legal provisions to avoid answering any questions at all about how they operate.

“Historically speaking, witness protection programs have been successful and have supported the criminal justice system in the fight against serious and organised crime.
https://blog.une.edu.au/news/2014/02/18/lifting-the-lid-on-witness-protection-in-australia/

Karrina,
Hypothetically, would you have guts to testify against some mafia member that just killed your husband and dumped him in bushes?
Witness protection is laughable, SR and BRs lives would have to change 180 degrees if they decide to take that path, move to diff state, change names, sell shop, VR and his family would likely do the same.

Anyway, it would be impossible to hide forever, b grade PI would be able to find them them you end up nice pair of cement shoes[emoji148] [emoji148]







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[Karinna]

Karrina,
Hypothetically, would you have guts to testify against some mafia member that just killed your husband and dumped him in bushes?
Witness protection is laughable, SR and BRs lives would have to change 180 degrees if they decide to take that path, move to diff state, change names, sell shop, VR and his family would likely do the same.

Anyway, it would be impossible to hide forever, b grade PI would be able to find them them you end up nice pair of cement shoes[emoji148] [emoji148]







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Are you speculating this case has Mafia connections attached to it? There is nothing in this case that makes me believe that. Otherwise i don't get your post?
It is a known fact that people are witnesses in court in trials in connection to criminal cases though, and no they don't go into witness protection either.

 

[Westside_Sleuth]

Are you speculating this case has Mafia connections attached to it? There is nothing in this case that makes me believe that. Otherwise i don't get your post?

There has been no mention of the mafia in MSM. Not sure where this has come from.


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[Karinna]

I also posted up about WPP's in Aus. as a FYI because i wasn't sure if Aus. has such a programme. So yes it apparently does but not much is known about it from what i can see.
I don't really think the Ristevski's would need to do that because IMO the crime was committed in their inner family circle. All IMO

 

[Karinna]

There has been no mention of the mafia in MSM. Not sure where this has come from.


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Exactly, but some posters have alluded to it on the threads with their theories, and is just mere speculation at this point.

 

[sosocurious]

If you mean BR his DOB is 14-03-1964

I wonder if Karen was still at school when she met Borce?

 

[Adrianna]

She was on FB recently wishing her grandchild a happy birthday

That didn't go real well for her either.

 

[adamsant]

Not sure if it has been discussed earlier on but could this be a cover up where KR took her own life and made to be a disappearance/murder as life insurance policies don't payout when someone takes their own life?

 

[Karinna]

Not sure if it has been discussed earlier on but could this be a cover up where KR took her own life and made to be a disappearance/murder as life insurance policies don't payout when someone takes their own life?

That would depend on if KR even had a life insurance policy though? And if her husband is found to be guilty of her death there won't be any payout on her life insurance to him.
And welcome to the thread, :welcome6:

 

[moreinfo]

Well she made contact with ZH for AR's sons birthday. Sounds like she doesn't get to see the kids much either.

Mmmm, mustn't have a good relationship with her grandkids mother. Sounds like there are a few issues there.

 

[suspicious]

Mmmm, mustn't have a good relationship with her grandkids mother. Sounds like there are a few issues there.

I used to see a psychotherapist and she said the most important relationship you will ever have is the one with your mum.... he isn't the way he is for nothing.


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[inkpink]

I used to see a psychotherapist and she said the most important relationship you will ever have is the one with your mum.... he isn't the way he is for nothing.


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So it's his Mums fault......? So then it must be his Mum's Mums fault, making it his Mums Mums Mums fault. I see.

 

[Armchair snoop]

Not sure if it has been discussed earlier on but could this be a cover up where KR took her own life and made to be a disappearance/murder as life insurance policies don't payout when someone takes their own life?

suicide payments on life insurance
http://www.insuranceclarity.com/life/life-insurance-suicide-clause

 

[Armchair snoop]

Witness protection?? haha, you kidding me..you really have too much faith in our institutions.
They know who he is, where he and family lives... Cant be in hiding forever

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Yes you wouldn't have much faith in the witness protection program after reading this.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...ias-witness-protection-program/news-story/ae5

 

[suspicious]

So it's his Mums fault......? So then it must be his Mum's Mums fault, making it his Mums Mums Mums fault. I see.

No, I didn't say that. He is an adult and needs to grow up and take responsibility.


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[decsimp]

I dont know much about mafis stuff so forgive me if Im naive... but wouldn't the police get some kind of indication if a ransom etc was involved? Wouldn't they have investigated all incoming/outgoing phone calls? How are they communicating their ransom deal?


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[inkpink]

No, I didn't say that. He is an adult and needs to grow up and take responsibility.


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I thought that this is what you were implying with this quote

'the most important relationship you will ever have is the one with your mum.... he isn't the way he is for nothing'