Australia Australia - Kyle Coleman, 17, Mount Isa, QLD, 22 Feb 2014

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  • #261
How horrific for Kyles family :(

This is so much worse than I ever imagined. Just terrible :(

Why, just why ......
 
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Humdinger said:
I just read this aim the news and came straight here. How devastating and confusing for the family :( I so wish this wasn't the case.
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Me too, Humdinger. Me too.:facepalm:
 
  • #265
So do you think that the police might have had suspicions and that might have been why James suicided the day after being taken back to Undilla? I mean he didn't suicide at the time of Kyle's death, so there had to be a trigger.

I'm gutted for Kyle's family all over again :( and for James's family too, how horrific for them to wonder if their son did this intentionally?

I keep trying to think of a scenario that made it an accident, but blood on the gun keeps telling me otherwise :( I just can't believe it :( I'm really devastated :(

Kyle was (by all accounts) such a great young guy, his whole life ahead of him... How could this happen?
I don't know why this has really gotten to me, maybe because he could have been the son or brother of any of us? I just feel so deeply for Kyle's family and friends.
 
  • #266
What Kyle’s dad believes happened:

Mr Coleman said a shotgun, which he believes belonged to James and was seized by police, contained blood spatter which matched his own DNA and that taken from his son’s personal possessions.

He now believes this gun was used to shoot his son at point blank range.

Mr Coleman, sometimes with the aid of police and frequently alone, has also gathered evidence which indicates that it was here where Kyle met his end.

He found what he says are the remnants of Kyle’s swag and doona, parts of his watch and buckles from his backpack on burnt ground in a remote corner of Undilla.

Rob has also found a .303 cartridge and spent shotgun cartridges.

Mr Coleman said Kyle did not own a firearm, but believed James owned a .303 and a shotgun.

He said the belongings found so far were inconclusive as far as evidence was concerned as the fire had destroyed any DNA that might link the items to his son.

Mr Coleman said the one concrete link so far was the blood found on the shotgun, which matches Kyle’s DNA. He believes Kyle’s blood being on the shotgun indicates it was discharged in his direction at point blank range.

Mount Isa detective Acting Inspector Guy Harvey said the investigation was ongoing and would not comment on matters concerning DNA and the shotgun.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...g-news-august-15/story-fnmd7bxx-1226949112884

Far Out!!
 
  • #267
Humdinger said:
So do you think that the police might have had suspicions and that might have been why James suicided the day after being taken back to Undilla? I mean he didn't suicide at the time of Kyle's death, so there had to be a trigger.

I'm gutted for Kyle's family all over again :( and for James's family too, how horrific for them to wonder if their son did this intentionally?

I keep trying to think of a scenario that made it an accident, but blood on the gun keeps telling me otherwise :( I just can't believe it :( I'm really devastated :(

Kyle was (by all accounts) such a great young guy, his whole life ahead of him... How could this happen?
I don't know why this has really gotten to me, maybe because he could have been the son or brother of any of us? I just feel so deeply for Kyle's family and friends.
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I know - I feel really upset too. This case has always got to me really deeply. And you're so right - how awful for BOTH families here. What hell James' family must be going through as well.

I was SOOOO hoping it was some terrible accident. But point-blank range?? And then destroying evidence?? Doesn't look like it.......

I so wish he'd left a note explaining, once he decided to kill himself. Leaving all the questions behind is just tragic.
 
  • #268
The searchers and family seem to have done an amazing job in their effort to find out what happened to Kyle.
Those charred items were 20kms from where it was said the boys were camping.

@Isisrising:
Evidently he couldn't live with what happened out there. I'm shocked at Kyle's stuff being burnt - that shows somebody trying hard to destroy any evidence.
I guess I'd wanted to believe it was some terrible accident, but that makes me wonder.......
And if it was an accident, why wouldn't James have immediately sought help from the folks at the station. Burning the evidence doesn't bode well to me...
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It makes me wonder too Isisrising.
I was trying to think what would make a best friend shoot another :(
Was it over money? Was it over a girl? Were they drunk?
Too many questions.

I hope the Police have some information to piece this together.
I just sounds so tragic for all involved.
For Kyles family - it must be incomprehensible that this could happen to their son.
 
  • #269
Oh, this is gutwrenching! Poor everyone... but most of all, my deepest deepest condolences to Kyle's family!! Absolutely horrific for them .... :cry:
 
  • #270
Oh how utterly awful :(:(

Poor Kyle's family and friends and James family and friends...I guess no one will ever really know exactly why this terrible tragedy occurred. I wonder if someone out there maybe knows what the conflict was about or maybe it was not pre-meditated but happened when they were drunk? I am not saying anything different really from the ideas and sentiments expressed here by all, but I just don't know what to say. Two lives lost at such a young age...
 
  • #271
So sad that the father himself had to do the detective work and made this grim discovery........so tragic for both families.
 
  • #272
So I was just talking about this with my husband, whose father taught him about guns when he was a child (:facepalm:). And he was saying that it could quite easily still be an accident.

James may not have realised there was a bullet in the gun and been goosing around with it, pretending to shoot and - boom - he shot but there WAS a bullet in there. Then he's freaked out and tried to cover his tracks etc....

I personally hope that was the case, rather than anything more sinister. (although I REALLY wish none of it ever came to pass at all!!!)
 
  • #273
We will probably never know :(
 
  • #274
http://www.northweststar.com.au/sto...to-answers-missing-mount-isa-teenager/?cs=190

Coleman family a step closer to answers | Missing Mount Isa teenager
By CHRIS BURNS
Aug. 15, 2014, 8:15 p.m.

WHEN Police spoke to the Colemans they requested evidence of 17-year-old Kyle Coleman’s blood found on a shotgun to be kept confidential.

But when the rumours about the shotgun spread through the Mount Isa community and reached grieving family members just one day later, the Coleman family was devastated.

Kyle’s father Rob Coleman has now decided to speak to the media to try and quell some of the rumours and to “let the community know what we as a family know and are going through together”.

It is believed key evidence, which could reveal what happened to the missing Mount Isa teenager, was released by a third party who was privy to this evidence and also asked to keep confidential.

Kyle was last seen with unrelated friend James Coleman on a hunting trip at Undilla Station, about 60 kilometres from Camooweal.

A shotgun that James had brought on the hunting trip was later found in a Mount Isa residence after a search warrant was issued by the police.

DNA testing proved the blood belonged to Kyle, Mr Coleman said.

“It was clearly explained to myself and my wife it was a blood splatter, not blood transference, and that it matched Kyle’s DNA,” Mr Coleman said.

“That in itself gives a fair indication of what happened.”

The gun would have to have been close to Kyle if he was shot.


“In my opinion it would have to have been very close range.”
 
  • #275
I was quizzing my hubby about guns too. I was confused about them saying shotgun and then .303 casing. The .303 is a bullet for a rifle, which would be used for hunting rather than a shotgun, so I think it's sloppy reporting and it was in fact a rifle. He too thinks it could be an accident but by putting it down - like butt on the ground - and it could have discharged. I'll ask him tomorrow about 'hair trigger' and see if that's common with a 303. I didn't think to ask this at the time. He was stumped about blood splatter though, because it would spray away from the gun and not towards it. He thinks it
Could create splatter if the bullet ricochet'd off a wall / rock face or similar but that would need to be self inflicted or a through n through? I think he was aiming at self inflicted as I'd not told him the full story before asking about blood splatter. Having said that, where abouts was the blood on the rifle? And is course, where abouts was the gunshot wound? More questions than answers...

A side note, the bullet for a 303 is about 3 inches long... It's not a small rifle, it would kill a large animal (cow etc) in one shot. They are basically a military rifle used in past wars and designed to kill people...
 
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Who would do this? It's forced the Coleman family to speak publicly when LE didn't want it revealed yet.....:facepalm:

That's a terrible betrayal of trust.


It is believed key evidence, which could reveal what happened to the missing Mount Isa teenager, was released by a third party who was privy to this evidence and also asked to keep confidential.

http://www.northweststar.com.au/sto...to-answers-missing-mount-isa-teenager/?cs=190
 
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Love to Kyle

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http://www.northweststar.com.au/sto...to-answers-missing-mount-isa-teenager/?cs=190
 
  • #280
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/news/dad-on-murder-trail/story-fnjfzs4b-1227026344813

Dad on murder trail

A PIG-hunting trip turned to tragedy for two young mates, with one disappearing in mysterious circumstances and the other taking his own life shortly after.

The disappearance and presumed death of Mount Isa teen Kyle Coleman, 17 and subsequent suicide of his mate James Coleman, 21, have shattered two families.

But Kyle’s devoted father Rob is on a mission to discover the truth and has vowed to never give up until he can bring his son home.

Mr Coleman has spent every spare moment searching Undilla Station for clues since his only son disappeared almost six months ago.

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They stopped at the Barkly Hotel drive-through on the Camooweal road on Mount Isa’s northern outskirts, where James bought a carton of Great Northern beer and Kyle bought rum.

They were next seen at the Shell Truck Port, also on the Camooweal road, about 11.45am, where they were pointed in the direction of Camooweal.

Arriving at the station at 2.30pm, they met owner Lindsay Miller near a shed at the homestead complex and discussed the best spot to go hunting.

What happened out there, in that harsh remote landscape, in the hours following that meeting remains a mystery which Mr Coleman is determined to solve.

Kyle likely never returned from the trip and the station may have become his final resting place.

James took his own life on February 26, five days after Kyle disappeared and one day after he was taken to Undilla by police who were attempting to recreate the events that played out in the late afternoon or evening of February 21.

Did the Undilla visit with the police unnerve James so much that he took his own life?

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