Australia Australia - Kylie Blackwood, 42, Pakenham, Vic, 1 Aug 2013

[Ausgirl]

Pakenham isn't really an area where I'd expect strict tribal law to be in place, though you never know.. It would just seem odd to me, if that was the case.

Wth is going onnnn, I want to know! lol. Msm seems to be clamped on the issue, I see no new news at ALL for either crime in the past few days. You'd think this would be all over everything by now. It's just weird.

So I'm thinking, information control by police.. maybe they do think it's a serial??? Or connected, at least.

 

[SouthAussie]

It is still a possibility, though...

But... Would LE state that is the reason the public is not being informed?

The last sentence above in your post sounds like LE would (try to) notify the public if this was the case here...
:dunno:

Think it means that they would tell the media that was why they were not releasing the name ... not necessarily the public. In Oz we don't have the 'right to know' everything ... bit frustrating sometimes, but it may be deemed inconsequential to anyone else but the loved ones.

 

[SouthAussie]

Pakenham isn't really an area where I'd expect strict tribal law to be in place, though you never know.. It would just seem odd to me, if that was the case.

Wth is going onnnn, I want to know! lol. Msm seems to be clamped on the issue, I see no new news at ALL for either crime in the past few days. You'd think this would be all over everything by now. It's just weird.

So I'm thinking, information control by police.. maybe they do think it's a serial??? Or connected, at least.

Just not sure why they would control the release of the person's name though. I can see them withholding all kinds of info - but I don't think I've ever noticed them withhold a person's name before (once the family has been notified, of course).

I believe cultural law applies throughout Australia - it is dependent on the wishes of the family, not so much where a person lives.

Not saying that is the case here - just the only reason that I personally can think of currently for withholding a murdered/deceased person's name.


http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_avoidance_practices

 

[Ausgirl]

Oh for sure, it's a possibility - just, usually, they'll identify the victim with something - 'aboriginal woman', or just a small amount of info on the crime, so to me it's weird, especially considering that another woman in the area was recently murdered at home, too.

There's been SO many homicides in Aus this past year..

 

[Marg from Oz]

It is all very quiet. Nothing in the Herald Sun. I live in the south east and have been checking the Dandenong Journal as well but not a word.

 

[SouthAussie]

It is all very quiet. Nothing in the Herald Sun. I live in the south east and have been checking the Dandenong Journal as well but not a word.

Thanks for checking Marg from Oz! This is all so strange, such silence on Kylie's case and the murdered 20-year old. Why on earth are police keeping a lid on everything?! You would think that if they have nothing, they'd be asking for help. So are we to presume they are onto something??

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Thanks for checking Marg from Oz! This is all so strange, such silence on Kylie's case and the murdered 20-year old. Why on earth are police keeping a lid on everything?! You would think that if they have nothing, they'd be asking for help. So are we to presume they are onto something??

I imagine that the community is unsettled... And that they are notifying LE and/or MSM to provide them with some information to help them feel more secure...:waitasec:

JMO

 

[MsAnais]

Well, here's the latest 'official' news in which LE state that they believe the two deaths are not connected.

Still suspiciously little info on the second death, I see.......

http://pakenham.starcommunity.com.au/gazette/2013-10-30/second-death/

 

[SouthAussie]

Well, here's the latest 'official' news in which LE state that they believe the two deaths are not connected.

Still suspiciously little info on the second death, I see.......

http://pakenham.starcommunity.com.au/gazette/2013-10-30/second-death/

Is it coincidental that, when speaking of the 20-year old's death, this statement ....

“Police don’t have any determination as to the cause of death,” the spokesperson said.
“The Homicide Squad is continuing their investigations.”

... is immediately followed by information about family violence and the efforts of the community to bring an end to it?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

:bump: for finding Kylie's killer!

And....

:bump: for information about the mysterious death of the mysterious 20 year old...

 

[enzeder]

I checked the Victoria Police Facebook page and found this comment regarding the young woman found in Packenham. Nothing new on the main website though that I can find?.

Victoria Police October 25 at 4:51pm near Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

We are investigating the death of a woman in Pakenham on Wednesday, and ask anyone who may have information to please contact Crime Stoppers. More info on our website.

https://www.facebook.com/victoriapolice/posts/564810320257775

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I checked the Victoria Police Facebook page and found this comment regarding the young woman found in Packenham. Nothing new on the main website though that I can find?.

IMO... But ..... It may be fairly difficult to be able to share information about someone who has not even been identified... KWIM?.... :waitasec:

 

[enzeder]

I checked back to the August postings on the Victoria Police facebook page to look for anything about Kyle Blackwood and found these. There are a few comments under each post.

Victoria Police August 2 at 1:29pm near Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Detectives from the Homicide Squad are appealing for assistance from the public following the discovery of a woman’s body in a house in Pakenham on Thursday.

Anyone with information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit crimestoppers.com.au.

https://www.facebook.com/victoriapolice/posts/524386600966814

Victoria Police August 5 at 3:08pm near Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Police believe a man seen walking alone along McCaffrey Rise in Pakenham last Thursday at the same time as the death of a woman in the area may hold vital clues to the ongoing investigation.

The man has been described as wearing a grey striped hooded top, dark trousers, a black cap and sunglasses.

Anyone with information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or visit crimestoppers.com.au.

https://www.facebook.com/victoriapolice/posts/525730044165803

Victoria Police August 22 near Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Homicide Squad release face image following Pakenham death

https://www.facebook.com/victoriapolice/posts/533404236731717

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I recognize that LE has reported that there is no connection between the deaths of Kylie and the mysterious 20 year old...

But... I am still quite curious...

Outside the possibility that she may be an Aboriginal Native...

Can anyone think of another reason why the 20 year old's name would not be released to MSM?

I am stymied.....

JMO

 

[Brightbird]

I recognize that LE has reported that there is no connection between the deaths of Kylie and the mysterious 20 year old...

But... I am still quite curious...

Outside the possibility that she may be an Aboriginal Native...

Can anyone think of another reason why the 20 year old's name would not be released to MSM?

I am stymied.....

JMO

I can only think that her family may have requested for her name not to be released. And if the public doesn't need to know, then police might withhold it out of respect for family wishes. But I can't think why, because anyone who knew her is going to find out she was murdered. If it were my family member, I wouldn't want their name released unless it was important for catching the killer.

I really believe that the police don't need the publics help or they would have made an appeal through media.

I also have a vague feeling that is not that uncommon for a murder to be reported without the name of the deceased being given to MSM. Some murders make the news once and that's it. Some never make the news. I'm not going to extensively trawl the internet to find out, but here are two articles where the name of the victim is not reported even though someone was charged.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/men-front-court-on-murder-counts-20121218-2bjyg.html

http://sunshine.starcommunity.com.au/star/2013-10-15/murder-charges-in-friday-shooting/

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I can only think that her family may have requested for her name not to be released. And if the public doesn't need to know, then police might withhold it out of respect for family wishes. But I can't think why, because anyone who knew her is going to find out she was murdered. If it were my family member, I wouldn't want their name released unless it was important for catching the killer.

I really believe that the police don't need the publics help or they would have made an appeal through media.

I also have a vague feeling that is not that uncommon for a murder to be reported without the name of the deceased being given to MSM. Some murders make the news once and that's it. Some never make the news. I'm not going to extensively trawl the internet to find out, but here are two articles where the name of the victim is not reported even though someone was charged.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/men-front-court-on-murder-counts-20121218-2bjyg.html

http://sunshine.starcommunity.com.au/star/2013-10-15/murder-charges-in-friday-shooting/

Thanks, Brightbird...:seeya:

You made some good, interesting points here...

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

I checked the Victoria Police Facebook page and found this comment regarding the young woman found in Packenham. Nothing new on the main website though that I can find?.

https://www.facebook.com/victoriapolice/posts/564810320257775

I think her name is mentioned in the comments here ... and her FB page is now gone.

Another person says that people keep telling police about someone they suspect, and that she is scared herself.

Good find enzeder!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I think her name is mentioned in the comments here ... and her FB page is now gone.

Another person says that people keep telling police about someone they suspect, and that she is scared herself.

Good find enzeder!

Wow! one poster sounds incredibly scared!

:what:

 

[MsAnais]

I think her name is mentioned in the comments here ... and her FB page is now gone.

Another person says that people keep telling police about someone they suspect, and that she is scared herself.

Good find enzeder!

If you click on the little arrow to the right of her FB address in Google, it comes up 'cached'. Click on that and it gives you the front page of what was her FB page. Can see her that way - if that's the victim??

 

[MsAnais]

Wow! one poster sounds incredibly scared!

:what:

That poster's FB page is very interesting.........