GUILTY Australia - Kylie Maybury, 6, abducted & murdered, Preston, Vic, 6 Nov 1984

[paul1980]

"I wonder if the neighbor who sent Kylie off, was fully investigated?"

Wasn't it a woman that gave Kylie the 90 cents to buy the bag of sugar?

Sadly, knowing attitudes towards women in 1984, she probably wasn't investigated too deeply at the time.

 

[Blessed]

Yes it was a woman. . Problem is, that shouldn't remove her from being a POI..

 

[paul1980]

Back then there was still a societal difficulty in admitting that women could do bad things and given that the woman was a neighbour and friend, Kylie's mother, Julie Maybury could have vouched for her.

 

[paul1980]

getting back to the sugar bag. Given 1984 prices, 90 cents would have bought a 2 and a quarter pound bag of sugar. Would it even fit in Kylie's handbag? Would it be too heavy for her to carry without struggling? the shopkeeper testified that Kylie seemed lost and confused and had to be prompted to place the coins on the shop counter. If she was lost and confused, she was probably a sitting duck for any predator?

 

[Fence Sitter]

getting back to the sugar bag. Given 1984 prices, 90 cents would have bought a 2 and a quarter pound bag of sugar. Would it even fit in Kylie's handbag? Would it be too heavy for her to carry without struggling? the shopkeeper testified that Kylie seemed lost and confused and had to be prompted to place the coins on the shop counter. If she was lost and confused, she was probably a sitting duck for any predator?

Im just guessing here but i would say the handbag was just to carry the money so she didnt lose it, not to carry the sugar home. I have a little girl and she lives carrying her little bag just because it makes her feel grown up. Wasnt it reported that she was seen with thr sugar? If it was then she didnt have it in her bag.

 

[Ausgirl]

Back then there was still a societal difficulty in admitting that women could do bad things and given that the woman was a neighbour and friend, Kylie's mother, Julie Maybury could have vouched for her.

Kylies mum was at the woman's house, though? Ie, she was right there with her when Kylie went missing.

Or are we suggesting a set-up? Idk, my mum used to send me out to the shops age 7-8 with a buck twenty to buy her cigarettes, and 5c extra for a bag of jubes for me. Australia was a way different place back then. And it used to be said we were 20 years behind America, that way.

That said, she was only 6 and sending her out in a city suburb by a busy road.. yeah well, I can understand why the shopkeeper was alarmed. So who knows, what was 'normal' among those families.

 

[paul1980]

As i said, If Kylie had been a Soviet child, there may not have been any sugar in the shop... but Soviets looked out for stranger and lost children.

 

[paul1980]

from what I'm finding out, the police are pretty upset that Four Corners did a story last year on a little boy that was the victim of a paedophile ring, because they knew that any public outrage in reaction to the story would focus on the little boy and not care that most victims of paedophiles are little girls like Kylie Maybury.

 

[Ausgirl]

Im just guessing here but i would say the handbag was just to carry the money so she didnt lose it, not to carry the sugar home. I have a little girl and she lives carrying her little bag just because it makes her feel grown up. Wasnt it reported that she was seen with thr sugar? If it was then she didnt have it in her bag.

Awh, mine did the same. I think they all do!

Having a daughter makes cases like this really hurt sometimes.

 

[Xlamb]

Getting back to Ausgirl's theory that the killer let Kylie buy the chips as a way of "letting her go, without letting her go" and how similar it was to the Beaumont Children and them buying pastries with a pound note they had not had when they left home, I knows it's fairly unlikely it could be the same perp, but a lot of criminals study famous cases before carrying out their own.

I'm having trouble posting comments. Ausgirl or paul1980 can contact me meanwhile if they wish.

 

[paul1980]

You'd expect The Canberra Times and the Melbourne Herald to have reported things accurately in 1984, but DSC Kane agreed with me that they were broadsheets with the hearts of tabloids. Remember the Bulger case in England where the press quickly gave the toddler victim the sobriquet of "Jamie" to make him sound even more tragic and cutesie poo, even though he was *never* called that by his family.

 

[Blessed]

Im just guessing here but i would say the handbag was just to carry the money so she didnt lose it, not to carry the sugar home. I have a little girl and she lives carrying her little bag just because it makes her feel grown up. Wasnt it reported that she was seen with thr sugar? If it was then she didnt have it in her bag.

Yup my daughter has plenty of these little girl bags, they are not very big, so wouldn't be able to carry a bag of sugar inside it.
I could imagine her carrying the coins in there though.
Young kids arent generally co-ordinated well to carry more than one thing at a time, so maybe she was struggling with the bag of sugar and her little bag as well.
Maybe abductor noticed this, and offered her assistance.

 

[paul1980]

Blessed: I'm sure Kylie's mother Julie Maybury has punished herself for over 30 years - ditto Rebecca Maybury over the big sister she never knew.

 

[Blessed]

Blessed: I'm sure Kylie's mother Julie Maybury has punished herself for over 30 years - ditto Rebecca Maybury over the big sister she never knew.

Not sure what your comments actually have to do with my post Paul??

 

[paul1980]

like me and Ausgirl i think you alluded to the foolishness of the adults of sending a tiny six year old girl out on her own on a busy road and industrial area.

 

[Blessed]

No, just trying to keep an open mind, and look at all possible scenarios, trying to think what a 6 year old would be thinking / doing.
Of course mum beats herself up, her daughter, her responsibility, but she certainly did not cause this, she did not ask for this, and Kylie did not deserve this!.

 

[Ausgirl]

like me and Ausgirl i think you alluded to the foolishness of the adults of sending a tiny six year old girl out on her own on a busy road and industrial area.

Well, to speak for myself here... I would not do the same, but plenty of people did back then, was the point of of what I was saying. We were a much more trusting country than we are now.

Thanks to so-and-sos, like the one who took little Kylie. Why we do not treat these criminals - on their first offense - exactly the same way we treat murderers, I will never know. Six months, five years in jail for raping a tiny body, and they're out there doing it all over again only they learn to kill their prey so they don't go back to jail.

Dun get me started. I have an abyss of rage for the way things are.

 

[paul1980]

Ausgirl, I think the Australian "justice system" is still full of people who were shaped by the progressive climate pre-thatcher and reagan. They think that "treatment" can cure sex offenders. But evidence proves you can't cure a paedophile. They get an uncontrollable urge to sexually molest or rape a little girl or little boy.

 

[paul1980]

OK guys and gals, I'm thinking of approaching Derryn Hinch about Kylie. He's gone to jail in his fight against the treating of paedos with kid gloves and i really don't want people outside WS to forget about Kylie until the 40th anniversary in 2024.

 

[paul1980]

I'm planning to share with Derryn the fact that when i was working the studio control board at 2UNE-FM, my university's student radio station, we were taking the feed off the satellite - it was one of those extreme left wing talk/current affairs shows that community radio likes to run. Might even have been Undercurrents the show that made Lenin look like Margaret Thatcher. Anyway, they were discussing child abuse and they suggested in all seriousness that convicted pedos who were undergoing "rehabilitation" be given a little girl to molest in the same way that heroin addicts are given methadone.