Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #10

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Did Casseldon mention the name Emil when asking RB about his father Abel Wouters and RB corrected him and i think D was asked about the same name .
Does anyone remember if it was Emil or Lehel or something else ?

Sorry was it Andre or Abel Wouters ..I am getting so muddled haha wondering which clues to follow now , I think i will hit some salt water now my sun has finally come out and clear my head .

Looking forward to see what you are all up too when i return o_O
 
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I think your pretty spot on i was thinking this watching her in court .

I am thinking it is possible she could be so "bewitched" by him she may have done his bidding for him at times .

Many women obviously did ..so why not D ? probably especially her ...sadly

Classic case of coercive control! Maybe that is why DDH has a "woman's advocate and human rights" lawyer representing her.
 
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Can you clarify those dates please as there have been so many different dates on various timelines.
Thank you!
I have this down:

1971-12-09 sentenced to 4 years prison for fraud, forgery, confidence tricks, giving false identity
1972-01-11 sentenced to one month for unsecured cheques
1972-11-16 1 years prison (concurrent with previous sentence)
1973-01-23 Fraud 1 years prison
1974-01 Dousai "checks without cover" 1 years prison
1974 -5- 21 - discharged from Valenciennes prison
So out of prison in May 1974
Couldn’t open a business as WW not so close to getting out but could register one as WC in July 1974?? Just throwing this out there… but I’m confused on a post that says the main business was something to do with meat…? @BabeBlues because meat hmm doesn’t add up that it could be him.
 
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wow

0854.628.297


Rue Bard(BIN) 16
7130 Binche
Since June 28, 1996 -- start date!


linked to David, Freddy
Since February 1, 1985
 
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Did Casseldon mention the name Emil when asking RB about his father Abel Worters and RB corrected him and i think D was asked about the same name .
Does anyone remember if it was Emil or Lehel or something else ?

Yes.
This one.
Family tree of "Emile" Charles Coppenolle

It is Marias brother who died in 1972 - the same year RB asked for the urgent passport application.....

There goes my theory are you saying:D
 
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Interesting that it notes online - "The following company is established at this address BLUM, RIC"

Bien sur Realo

I wonder if he still owns it?
So, is this where he stayed "with family" and where he would derive a substantial income from? The plot thickens!
 
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Sorry was it Andre or Abel Wouters ..I am getting so muddled haha wondering which clues to follow now , I think i will hit some salt water now my sun has finally come out and clear my head .

Looking forward to see what you are all up too when i return o_O

casseldon asked what sounded to me like Abdel floraunt (forgive my butchering of spelling). DH said she knew an Andre W (no abdel), and RB said AWs real name was Abel F but he went by Andre
 
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Curious. Any websluethers here familiar with accessing and searching for his businesses or aliases in the

PANAMA PAPERS databases ?

Tax-free havens set up in Luxemborg to off-shore accounts to hide money.
 
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So, is this where he stayed "with family" and where he would derive a substantial income from? The plot thickens!
That is my thinking also
 
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He probably stole the property off his family or some family- who even knows who he really is.
 
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Yes.
This one.
Family tree of "Emile" Charles Coppenolle

It is Marias brother who died in 1972 - the same year RB asked for the urgent passport application.....

There goes my theory are you saying:D

haha not exactly , is that the time he said his father was sick ? So Marias brother died in 1972 as well .. Didnt Desire David die in 1972 ?

But no i was looking at a Tree of Ric Wouters who died in 1916 with no apparent issue ...but his was born Hendrik Emil WOUTERS who was married to "Nel " ..

Just perusing :confused:
 
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wow

0854.628.297


Rue Bard(BIN) 16
7130 Binche
Since June 28, 1996 -- start date!


linked to David, Freddy
Since February 1, 1985
And look at the main activity of this business since 1 July 1996 in this screen shot attached.
 

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haha not exactly , is that the time he said his father was sick ? So Marias brother died in 1972 as well .. Didnt Desire David die in 1972 ?

But no i was looking at a Tree of Ric Wouters who died in 1916 with no apparent issue ...but his was born Hendrik Emil WOUTERS who was married to "Nel " ..

Just perusing :confused:


Yes Emile 3 July 1972
and DCOD 15 Nov 1972
the day after:
1972-11-16 Willy Wouters Lille France, 1 years prison

Although Willy Wonker is in the clink so he didn't go to any funeral and claim the riches at that point:cool:
 
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And look at the main activity of this business since 1 July 1996 in this screen shot attached.
It is incredible isnt it!!
Finally the big picture has revealed itself.
Thank you to those that found them all ! - the house of cards is about to come crashing down.
 
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Do I have these dates recorded correctly? If so, he has left the possibility open IMO

1968 SEP 3 MARION & JOHN WARREN arrived in UK for 5mths

1967 - 1968 RB's Alleged travel to and from Swiss chalets and a Sanitorium in Leysin. Visited and lived in Lucerne and Montreux in Switzerland. (to regain health) ALLEGED meeting with MARION WARREN at a hotel.(5 month window?)

1969 FEB 2 MARION & JOHN WARREN arrived back in Australia
 
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Deleted as I found the answer I was looking for.
 
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It is incredible isnt it!!
Finally the big picture has revealed itself.
Thank you to those that found them all ! - the house of cards is about to come crashing down.
Deleted as I have found the answer to my question @mishy66 :D
 
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Can anyone else hear the wheels spinning in the Channel7 mini-series department?
 
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Check out this company

Registered entity data | CBE Public Search

and if you go here

Request Rejected

In the PDF attached - we have Freddy David - what a surprise! LOL

LISTE COMPLETE avec nom, prénoms, profession, domicile (adresse, numéro, code postal et commune) et fonction au sein de
l'entreprise des ADMINISTRATEURS, GERANTS ET COMMISSAIRES
- DAVID FREDDY
GERANT DE BANQUE LIQUIDATEUR
RUE BARD 16
7130 BINCHE BELGI
 
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