Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #10

[Itsapuzzle]

Yes I remember Cahills quite well having worked around Martin Place for 4 years in the mid 60's. I also offer Repins Coffee and Tea Shops. They had multiple cafes centered around George, Pitt and Market Streets.

There is a great site which features many of the cafes and restaurants of early Sydney including the 50-60s era. It's full of information but not easy to navigate.

Restaurants and Cafes | The Dictionary of Sydney

I thought RB was being creative when he said that the cafe was at the corner of Pitt and Market. I'm not so sure that was where he sipped his lattes. A more likely place was the Hermitage Cafe owned by Henri Renaut a Frenchman.

Sydney’s wining and dining evolution - Nicole Cama

Henri was a founding member of the Wine & Food Society of NSW. And so was John Keith WALKER. He had a wine bar restaurant at 87 Market Street (Corner Market and Castlereagh Streets. I reckon there's a good chance DW's father RG Walker was related or known to John Keith Walker.

His Biography is at Biography - John Keith (JK 'Johnnie') Walker - Australian Dictionary of Biography

IMO

That's really interesting about the John Keith Walker .... 87 Market Street! He said in his breaks he'd walk to the newspaper stand at the corner of Pitt and Market Street and buy the Le Courrier paper, but he said the coffee lounge was at the entrance to Market Street. 87 could be considered an entrance, being on the corner. Great find car54

 

[brjakj]

Desiree JP David has only 2 sisters ...Florentine Augustus Marie , I do not know the other sister

Where did you find that please?

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Well I've spent the day revisiting testimony D4 JO. It's been...long.

'Somebody' at least knew when Mama C died - in 1990, that's the date listed on the Coppennolle coins collection sale. And on the sale - by grandchild of MamaC - anyone find offspring of FW or DW that would fit the bill? I can find no other grandchildren other than RB's.

So interesting the denial of the coin collection having a name.

No but I do recall something in D’s testimony about when mama C died money was left to the kids but they didn’t get it - it went elsewhere. Now I assumed at the time it went to other grandkids.. I know I shouldn’t -u-me, but that’s what I thought she was saying.

 

[Carovb5]

Renaut… one of his aliasses.
Great find!!

Yes I remember Cahills quite well having worked around Martin Place for 4 years in the mid 60's. I also offer Repins Coffee and Tea Shops. They had multiple cafes centered around George, Pitt and Market Streets.

There is a great site which features many of the cafes and restaurants of early Sydney including the 50-60s era. It's full of information but not easy to navigate.

Restaurants and Cafes | The Dictionary of Sydney

I thought RB was being creative when he said that the cafe was at the corner of Pitt and Market. I'm not so sure that was where he sipped his lattes. A more likely place was the Hermitage Cafe owned by Henri Renaut a Frenchman.

Sydney’s wining and dining evolution - Nicole Cama

Henri was a founding member of the Wine & Food Society of NSW. And so was John Keith WALKER. He had a wine bar restaurant at 87 Market Street (Corner Market and Castlereagh Streets. I reckon there's a good chance DW's father RG Walker was related or known to John Keith Walker.

His Biography is at Biography - John Keith (JK 'Johnnie') Walker - Australian Dictionary of Biography

IMO

 

[Roseberry]

No but I do recall something in D’s testimony about when mama C died money was left to the kids but they didn’t get it - it went elsewhere. Now I assumed at the time it went to other grandkids.. I know I shouldn’t -u-me, but that’s what I thought she was saying.

Money not left to hers but other kids and went elsewhere in what form? Interesting the coins ended up being sold through Noble Numismatics an Aus company, presuming other grandkids be Euro based...

 

[brjakj]

Money not left to hers but other kids and went elsewhere in what form? Interesting the coins ended up being sold through Noble Numismatics an Aus company, presuming other grandkids be Euro based...

My hunch is that those coins were fake and that he put his mums name on there because it sounds good to unsuspecting Australians that know nothing about coins.

 

[Roseberry]

My hunch is that those coins were fake and that he put his mums name on there because it sounds good to unsuspecting Australians that know nothing about coins.

Well. IMO The possibility of the coins being fake maybe opens up a whole other can of worms going right back to previous wives (IK) and family associations in Belgium post-war and Special Skills thence acquired. Perhaps. In any case, the whole coin world appears very close-knit and incestuous. The Big Thing appears to be to have a collection named after you, or your family. And let's not discount the predilection for acquisitions related to little old ladies ie Mme. Flamme. It could be a bit of both. Just IMO.

 

[BonnieB]

No but I do recall something in D’s testimony about when mama C died money was left to the kids but they didn’t get it - it went elsewhere. Now I assumed at the time it went to other grandkids.. I know I shouldn’t -u-me, but that’s what I thought she was saying.

From memory, and it's overloaded atm, RB when answering a question about what he kept in the bank safety box (I think) said there were his children's inheritance papers. I thought at the time he had contradicted DdH.

 

[Liselle]

No but I do recall something in D’s testimony about when mama C died money was left to the kids but they didn’t get it - it went elsewhere. Now I assumed at the time it went to other grandkids.. I know I shouldn’t -u-me, but that’s what I thought she was saying.

So I wonder where the final 20,000 euros brought back by RB in 2012 (his last journey) came from? It was a long time after his mother’s death and was (supposedly) declared at Perth Airport. Did D deH know about this money?

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

My hunch is that those coins were fake and that he put his mums name on there because it sounds good to unsuspecting Australians that know nothing about coins.

Agree… have we found the ‘ex C collection’ listed on any Belgium/France/Netherlands/uk coin auctions? All searches for that collection lead us back to Nobles

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

So I wonder where the final 20,000 euros brought back by RB in 2012 (his last journey) came from? It was a long time after his mother’s death and was (supposedly) declared at Perth Airport. Did D deH know about this money?

Perhaps the last of his little coupon book inheritance ??

 

[BonnieB]

Perhaps the last of his little coupon book inheritance ??

2o,ooo here, GGB's 30,000 there, MB's 160,000 plus a container of antiques & valuables, dodgy coin deals, proceeds from overseas investments and pocket money from two pensions and these are the ones we know about. IMO, his greed and disregard for his victims is unfathomable. Amid all his narcissistic lies, never let us forget MB, who paid the ultimate price for involvement with this creep IMOO!

 

[mishy66]

2o,ooo here, GGB's 30,000 there, MB's 160,000 plus a container of antiques & valuables, dodgy coin deals, proceeds from overseas investments and pocket money from two pensions and these are the ones we know about. IMO, his greed and disregard for his victims is unfathomable. Amid all his narcissistic lies, never let us forget MB, who paid the ultimate price for involvement with this creep IMOO!

Yes @BonnieB it is so easy to be swept up in his unfathomable, scrupulous, fake life and each lead just brings up more and more of his horrible character.

What a creep is right.

I really hope and pray that MB will be remembered as the woman who showed the world that her small 'breadcrumbs ' led to the downfall and hopefully conviction, of this piece of work.

And he will be forgotten forever.

 

[1965school]

It may be irrelevant but I found the marriage for DDeH’s sister in 1970 her name was in the parents death notice so she may have looked after coffee shop in Sydney. Her marriage is on Nsw bdm and has the her Christian name in long form . Her husband has a German sounding name. They live now in Byron Bay Area. The husband was brought up in the Vaucluse area. The son lives on a 40000 ha west of Byron bay

 

[BonnieB]

It may be irrelevant but I found the marriage for DDeH’s sister in 1970 her name was in the parents death notice so she may have looked after coffee shop in Sydney. Her marriage is on Nsw bdm and has the her Christian name in long form . Her husband has a German sounding name. They live now in Byron Bay Area. The husband was brought up in the Vaucluse area. The son lives on a 40000 ha west of Byron bay

VERY interesting!!!

 

[mishy66]

It may be irrelevant but I found the marriage for DDeH’s sister in 1970 her name was in the parents death notice so she may have looked after coffee shop in Sydney. Her marriage is on Nsw bdm and has the her Christian name in long form . Her husband has a German sounding name. They live now in Byron Bay Area. The husband was brought up in the Vaucluse area. The son lives on a 40000 ha west of Byron bay

Wow!
This is such a crazy mixed up life story!

 

[mishy66]

The Tapestries of Willy Wonkas life.

If you do a search of MC on this document,
it shows just how much WW loves his history weaving stories.

'The Amsterdam Tapestry Producer Alexander Baert (1660–1719) and his Workshop: New Findings', Textile History 50, 1 (2019): pp. 41-54.

 

[BonnieB]

From an article about DdH's nephew, "KR grew up on Sydney's North Shore and attended a private school. He arrived in Byron at 17 when his parents (DdH's sister) went bankrupt.

"Dad was a builder and mum a music teacher," he says. "We didn't know what to do when they went broke so we ended up running a cafe."

 

[1965school]

And KR is a director of tripadeal.

 

[Estelle]

And KR is a director of tripadeal.

So RB's daughter works for him.