Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #13

[TootsieFootsie]

I think he made up the whole story of storing her things because he ended up with some of her stuff, through his trick of offering to bury valuables or plain out just helping himself to Marion's things.

Over time if he did this to a few women, he may have forgotten what belonged to who.
So the story about storing her boxes, just in case anything of Marion's was found there.

But wouldn't it have been easier, if something of Marions was found, to just say that she gave it to him.

I've always been of the opinion that the whole storing of Marion's things was false.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Po

thinking about this early flight a bit more, I think it more likely he caught one the buses that runs between syd and bne, I've done this a couple of times in the early 90's. The bus would arrive into Roma St Transit Centre (right in the middle of brisbane city) and I believe at the time there was a Novotel hotel close by - the next day he could just get a cab to the airport. I don't think the train was built to the airport then and no buses running at the time of the morning.

Possibly but he doesn’t strike me as the taxi sort of guy he’s tight when spending his own money

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Here we call that a lounge room or a living room.

While a lounge is a word we use for the actual couch or sofa.

Here in the UK, a lounge is the sitting room of a house.

 

[Bibno]

On whether she was seeing anyone else:

"She told me that the relationship she had was with someone at the school and that she also told me that she had many nights to employ a term of bacchanalia with the korean parents teachers and their friends where she was having asian food banquets." HUH? What on earth?

Do you remember when he said this? I heard it and it amused me, but I think I heard it a bit differently. I wanted to listen to it again, but can’t remember roughly when it was.

It was in the first third of the Inquest before the first break - during much discussion about how many times WW actual saw Marion 3, or 4, once a month, etc, at her home etc and when he noticed a motorbike outside and assume there was another man.

I typed it verbatim as he said it, although had to replay it several times as I couldn't work out what he was mumbling. My very best estimate was that he said 'korean students parents and teachers' run together very quickly but was struggling to figure out what it was but it would fit in with 'asian [food] banquets'. I should have noted the time, I'll try find it. I don't know about Aus private schooling but perhaps there are many wealthy korean students attending? (I am British)

Thank you, that’s so helpful, I’ll listen again. I’m struggling to fit all the listening in with work and everything else! I’m British too.

 

[Ponderer101]

Listening to RB's testimony, sometimes I wonder if he doesn't have some early dementia. His variable memory reminds me a lot of my dad. Sometimes very clear, sometimes very muddled. And my dad was an honest guy. Gotta be extra confusing for a pathological liar. I know he could be pretending and he's obviously lying a lot, but he could also have something else going on.

RB's histrionics reminds me of my elderly narcissistic father. "Look at the distress you are causing me, I can hardly breath". And more basically "look at me, I deserve your attention". Narcissists can be mentally tipped over the edge if pushed too hard, so important that LC continue in his current style. Dont need a hospital admission at this late stage.

 

[mishy66]

I have never heard of the word "Koleos" before so I looked it up on Google.

Koleos. The exact meaning behind the name of Renault's mid-size SUV is still a little unclear. The word reportedly means 'sheath' in Greek and 'testicle' in Latin. LOL

Hahaha!
He picked the perfect car then !

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

RB's histrionics reminds me of my elderly narcissistic father. "Look at the distress you are causing me, I can hardly breath". And more basically "look at me, I deserve your attention". Narcissists can be mentally tipped over the edge if pushed too hard, so important that LC continue in his current style. Dont need a hospital admission at this late stage.

In the last third of questioning, he came back far more sharper, less breathless, far more argumentative and disputing / challenging, compared to the first third.

I agree with your point about Narcs tipping over the edge and during covid times, witnessed two people I know end their own lives when things came to a head for them, ie confronted with their shortcomings in a way they had no wiggle room because of lockdown.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Yes but was it blue?

Hahaha!
He picked the perfect car then !

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Nothing against casual and I'm not a clothes snob.

But wouldn't you think a suave irresistible international traveller ladies man would wear something a bit more dressy to court.

 

[mishy66]

No doubt today we will see more acting by Blum with his huffing and puffing, mumblings and appropriate 'forgetfulness ' at crucial moments of the timeline, in between clear lucidity and sharp responses to Q about his own personal life like we have seen throughout these inquests since February.

He is a professional liar and actor, it's how he manipulated the women he fleeced and with Marion, potentially killed.

The whole story about tripping the light fantastic along the French coast with his now dead friends, is just that, another story.
Deflecting from what he was really doing back in 1997, on a trip he took with Marion, and the real reason he was in the probable areas of UK, Lux, Belgium etc, all the other places he frequents.

He is just a player; dropping a new place with new friends yesterday was just another way to shift focus from Marions travels and his association with her. He's read the brief, he knows what's in there, what's coming up.

His time wasting skills on his 'health' is him hoping to drawout the inevitable. He knows AC is much much smarter than him, so he's using any tactic he can get.

He still thinks this inquest is all about him.
It's not.
It's about Marion Barter.
AC isn't fooled at all by his BS.

IMO MOO

 

[CoCo319]

Can someone please confirm if the inquest begins at the same time today? Thanks in advance.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think he thinks he's smarter than anyone else and that they won't be able to pin anything on him.

In his mind, he's smarter than anyone that goes up against him.

I think he's gotten away with so much in his life that he came to feel he was untouchable.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Yes, same time, 10am.

AEST Australian Eastern Standard Time

Can someone please confirm if the inquest begins at the same time today? Thanks in advance.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Nothing against casual and I'm not a clothes snob.

But wouldn't you think a suave irresistible international traveller ladies man would wear something a bit more dressy to court.

He may have been a suave irresistible international ladies man..
But nowadays he’s an old man who can’t remember what lies he’s told so makes up more, when they clash.. he is confused or he outright denies the previous comments. The more he does this it doesn’t show an old man struggling with memory.. it shows a liar under oath, a liar to his wife and family…. And ultimately a character without any moral compass.
Which is I hope alongside the remarkable constant ‘coincidences’ enough to pursue him further after the inquest.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I have to hope that some of his victims get at least a bit of justice.

Which is I hope alongside the remarkable constant ‘coincidences’ enough to pursue him further after the inquest.

 

[mishy66]

Yes but was it blue?

I don't think GGB and JO realised just how important their "small" observations were when they gave their evidence.
It has certainly helped sift truth from fiction with Blums recollections of Marions behaviours toward him.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

And I wonder if they know how much they are respected for coming forward and talking about what happened to them.

I don't think GGB and JO realised just how important their "small" observations were when they gave their evidence.
It has certainly helped sift truth from fiction with Blums recollections of Marions behaviours toward him.

 

[CoCo319]

Agree but also I have closely known people who are compulsive liars / narcissists / controlling people and a key tactic they deploy is to refuse to be pinned down to any clear statement or answer. They take power by with-holding facts at all costs and depriving anyone to have any agency over information. Also avoiding any accountability. They do it when it even seems pointless.

WW swears black is white, then black, then white, then says yep I did originally say it was black but I was mistaken it's white, then when the questioner says so we agree now you are saying it is white, he says yes I agree it is definitely black. Infuriating!!

He's probably been doing this to his wife, children, and associates all his life, pathalogical swerving so extreme and habitual his neural pathways have set that way and breaking down with age - maybe he couldn't tell the truth if he wanted to! He has no 'truth'. His word means nothing, literally. I suspect if he had good representation, they could have this questioning called off on psychiatric grounds - his inability to answer questions is pathalogical to the point of clinically insane.

Yes, I do agree with this, also. I just don't know if he is that great an actor, or that brilliant of a conman. It's really impossible to gauge early dementia without knowing what the person was like when they were younger. I wouldn't wish dementia on anyone, but if he did have it, I think it might cause him to inadvertently disclose the truth some day. If he's just lying, he'll never admit to anything.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

2:03:50 onwards

AC: And, was she living with anyone from your observation?

WW: My observation, there was every time I went there, the three times I went there, there was a mo, motorbike outside, so I, I guessed that she, that someone else, was er er, what you call that, was er, huh, seeing her, don't know who he was.

AC: You drew an inference did you by seeing a motorbike that someone else may have been staying there or that she may have been in a relationship, did she tell you she was in a relationship, or not?

WW: No, she told me that, that, the relationship she had was with someone at the school, she told me that. And that she also told me that she had many nights and to employ a term of bacchanalia with Korean parents teachers and their friends where she was having er asians, er asians food banquets, yes.

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How odd. I have no words for this except it was probably the longest, most detailed, and least hesitant sentence WW spoke in this entire inquest. 'She was having asians' was the stand out exerpt.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think it was meant to sound "a bit lurid"

Plus it has racist undertones. (on his part)

How odd. I have no words for this except it was probably the longest, most detailed, and least hesitant sentence WW spoke in this entire inquest. 'She was having asians' was the stand out exerpt.