Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #14

[KiwiNZ]

Took all day but I found it ... lol... not that it helps any, but I am sure they will explain the link in the next podcast

CONGRATULATIONS KiwiNZ, you are a SUPER SLEUTH extraordinaire!

I have walked the virtual pavements of Belgium all day .. no idea why, not sure it helps us, but hoping someone on here can use their super skills to make the link to RB, I just specialise in needles in hay stacks lol

 

[Nnbee]

Amazing. I wonder if they found a reservation under Marion’s name? I hope so.
They did mention the new episode was about renov pubs so perhaps there is a link.
I hope it comes out soon.

 

[BonnieB]

More likely linked to Roger Lauzoney I think.

 

[Nnbee]

Oh I didn’t think anyone found info on RL? Was this where he was arrested with that fake ID?
I vaguely remember an arrest report where he had another name and they found his Aus DdH passport.

 

[mishy66]

Took all day but I found it ... lol... not that it helps any, but I am sure they will explain the link in the next podcast

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2 houses from the casino

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Excellent sleuthing!!!

 

[Penguinpoet]

I can't wait to find out in the podcast what that property is all about. Something to do with his time in Belgium in the 60s? Or something more recent? Incidentally it is currently for sale.

 

[mishy66]

Took all day but I found it ... lol... not that it helps any, but I am sure they will explain the link in the next podcast

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2 houses from the casino

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I think your sleuthing on this has opened the book on WHY it is he swindles women.
It isn't so much the deeds of any house BUT what he can sell from them to get money ( when they are out of the country) and steal their cashflow he has access to, to fund his gambling and their lifestyle.

This place is a 2 minute walk to Knokke Casino!


Then we have:

1990 - Built a house at Goonellabah and stayed 18 mths - Hello Lismore Workes Club


sell the new home and move to Tasmania
1992 Midway Point Tasmania ~ the Top of the World Swim mets for the DeH kids - half hour walk to Wrest Point Casino
and a half hr drive from their home at Midway Point.
No way in the world they moved to Tasmania for a sick Uncle. There was NO uncle living in Tasmania. He hasn't given a thought to any family in his life!!!


1985 / 1986 - Rangers Rd Cremorne OR her address 31 Slade St, Naremburn - a 10 min drive to Monkey Bar Chatswood

Making sense now as to why they moved every year! And all the BS they told about living with her sister in 2000 in Cessnock ( her sister was in Byron by then) but they were handy to the Cessnock Leagues Club!


2000s - Their move to Caringbah to help daughter ~ Tradies Caringbah RSL

2006 - Their move to Melb for son at Uni He graduated January 2006 ~ Melbourne Crown Casino


Sydney moves ~ Take your pick ~ a Casino in every port.

Moving and changing names because of the money laundering at various casinos.

So they rip off the Australian Government by claiming a disability pension and a carers pension, swindle innocent women out of their hard earned money and then gamble what they collect to fund their OS lifestyle - using the casinos to launder the stolen cash.

Pretty package if you have been a criminal all your life and can talk BS to anyone who will listen.

My bet is EVERYTHING they own has been because of the hard earned money from innocent women living in this country, that they have robbed.

I dont believe for an instant DdeH was an innocent party or turned her back on his dealings when she was willing to pack up houses with two school kids over and over again throughout their upbringing to move close to his laundering 'business' near casinos or race courses and NOT know how they could afford it on two pensions. Hello!




Well done Kiwi! You have nailed his years of WHY's by finding this place!

 

[BonnieB]

I dont believe for an instant DdeH was an innocent party or turned her back on his dealings when she was willing to pack up houses with two school kids over and over again throughout they upbringing to move close to his laundering 'business' near casinos or race courses and NOT know how they cooul afford it on two pensions. Hello!

Oh I can definitely visualize her; scarf around her neck to ward off the chill of the air-con, perched on 'her' stool in front of 'her' machine, mindlessly pressing buttons hour after brain numbing hour.

 

[mishy66]

More likely linked to Roger Lauzoney I think.

Oh yes for sure.

What are your thoughts BonnieB

 

[BonnieB]

Well,

Oh yes for sure.

What are your thoughts BonnieB

Knokke-Heist is where RB opened the Krediebank account in the name of Roger Lauzoney in 1976 so could they both have stayed here? Could RB have stolen his ID here? And written 8 large cheques in his name without funds?

Anyone else have a guess?

 

[mishy66]

I can't wait to find out in the podcast what that property is all about. Something to do with his time in Belgium in the 60s? Or something more recent? Incidentally it is currently for sale.

Flat for sale on Realo

Het appartement is gelegen in de nieuwbouwresidentie Rallye, dat exclusief te koop is bij Sharp&Wolf. Dit nieuwste project van Compagnie Het Zoute is ge

www.realo.be

 

[Penguinpoet]

Flat for sale on Realo

Het appartement is gelegen in de nieuwbouwresidentie Rallye, dat exclusief te koop is bij Sharp&Wolf. Dit nieuwste project van Compagnie Het Zoute is ge

www.realo.be

That's not the "for sale" listing I spotted - it's a general 'find out what a property is worth' webpage (and some useful info about the area). Not sure if it's ok for me to post the For Sale listing, but it probably doesn't tell us very much anyway as only has a photo from the outside and no other details.

 

[KiwiNZ]

I think your sleuthing on this has opened the book on WHY it is he swindles women.
It isn't so much the deeds of any house BUT what he can sell from them to get money ( when they are out of the country) and steal their cashflow he has access to, to fund his gambling and their lifestyle.

This place is a 2 minute walk to Knokke Casino!


Then we have:

1990 - Built a house at Goonellabah and stayed 18 mths - Hello Lismore Workes Club


sell the new home and move to Tasmania
1992 Midway Point Tasmania ~ the Top of the World Swim mets for the DeH kids - half hour walk to Wrest Point Casino
and a half hr drive from their home at Midway Point.
No way in the world they moved to Tasmania for a sick Uncle. There was NO uncle living in Tasmania. He hasn't given a thought to any family in his life!!!


1985 / 1986 - Rangers Rd Cremorne OR her address 31 Slade St, Naremburn - a 10 min drive to Monkey Bar Chatswood

Making sense now as to why they moved every year! And all the BS they told about living with her sister in 2000 in Cessnock ( her sister was in Byron by then) but they were handy to the Cessnock Leagues Club!


2000s - Their move to Caringbah to help daughter ~ Tradies Caringbah RSL

2006 - Their move to Melb for son at Uni He graduated January 2006 ~ Melbourne Crown Casino


Sydney moves ~ Take your pick ~ a Casino in every port.

Moving and changing names because of the money laundering at various casinos.

So they rip off the Australian Government by claiming a disability pension and a carers pension, swindle innocent women out of their hard earned money and then gamble what they collect to fund their OS lifestyle - using the casinos to launder the stolen cash.

Pretty package if you have been a criminal all your life and can talk BS to anyone who will listen.

My bet is EVERYTHING they own has been because of the hard earned money from innocent women living in this country, that they have robbed.

I dont believe for an instant DdeH was an innocent party or turned her back on his dealings when she was willing to pack up houses with two school kids over and over again throughout their upbringing to move close to his laundering 'business' near casinos or race courses and NOT know how they could afford it on two pensions. Hello!




Well done Kiwi! You have nailed his years of WHY's by finding this place!

DDH slip of the tongue ... he had no big wins that year

and been robbed in Pacific Fairs car park - opposite Jupiter's Casino

I think your right, I think he gambled every last cent, including DDH's inheritance from her parents

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

FWIW -- from one of the podcasts I've listened to, one of the journalists made the claim that the difference in con men and pure thieves is that con men are gamblers. They thrive on the risk and the need to outsmart the house (or victim.) I think yall are right about the casinos and about RB.

 

[Meligator]

I'd agree RB did put some effort into the letter.... by copying various passages from books. The passage that starts with... "Frederick was perturbed when admitting to himself how little he knew of feminine psychology. An intelligent woman like his wife would have talked nineteen to the dozen, noted voice inflection, eyes and mouth expression and, having added"... was taken directly from a book named Venom House" by Arthur W. Upfield first published in 1953. Except Frederick was Bony.

Venom House

The Answerth family's mansion seems to deserve its nickname of Venom House - perhaps because of its forbidding setting, an island in the centre of a man-made lake, its treacherous waters studded by the skeletons of long-dead trees. Perhaps it's because of the unquiet ghosts of the Aboriginals...

books.google.com.au

In another passage with "it doesn't pay to ride a theory too hard, you lose sight of the reality" is taken from a well known book Rich Man Poor Man" by Irwin Shaw.

I'd guess there are quite a few other snippets that he stole from legitimate authors.

IMO

With that in mind, I’ve always suspected he frequented FR’s bookstore, learned of his separation from his wife MC, and targeted MC directly. FR may not even have memory of meeting RB—but I suspect he did.

 

[Meligator]

I know there is evidence that the desire married to MC is not the desire con man described in many newspapers etc., but the the similarity between DD (Don Juan) and RB’s cons are really really uncanny. And it’s not at though RB would necessarily have access to all the news articles about DD’s crimes—there no Google then.

 

[mishy66]

I know there is evidence that the desire married to MC is not the desire con man described in many newspapers etc., but the the similarity between DD (Don Juan) and RB’s cons are really really uncanny. And it’s not at though RB would necessarily have access to all the news articles about DD’s crimes—there no Google then.

He is VERY well read. It's part of his makeup, the ability to talk BS with stitching up stories that weave a blanket for his lifelong tale.

There is a 10 yr difference between Maria C husband DD and this DD - it would not be unusual to have had another family member also name their child DD - maybe both DD's had the same grandparentage.

 

[Bagpus]

DDH slip of the tongue ... he had no big wins that year

and been robbed in Pacific Fairs car park - opposite Jupiter's Casino

I think your right, I think he gambled every last cent, including DDH's inheritance from her parents

I agree. That's how he has stolen so much yet has nothing to show for it.

 

[mishy66]

Well,

Knokke-Heist is where RB opened the Krediebank account in the name of Roger Lauzoney in 1976 so could they both have stayed here? Could RB have stolen his ID here? And written 8 large cheques in his name without funds?

Anyone else have a guess?

Just refreshing myself with his crimes during this time.....

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

The British footballer and Australian teammate who encouraged Johnny Warren (and Marion) to come to the UK in 1968 ended up living in Knokke-Heist in Belgium in the 1990s. I had never heard of the place before this case.