Australia Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #8

[Bibno]

Do we know what kind of tea chests it was that Marion had? Do they mean those small wooden trinket boxes or the ones that are like crates?
This is for my own peace of mind only - I had a very vivid dream last night about the tea chests in RB's garage that I am not going to put out into the universe.

I think Tea Chests in this context refers to the ones used to pack items in for removals. They were initially used for importing tea, and then reused for removals. I haven’t seen them for years, and I think they’re quite sought after now.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Do you think it is possible that he already knew Marion and she had some idea where he lived - so he had to move so she couldn't show up at his place? Especially if he was planning all along to steal some of her things, and he was afraid she might show up looking for them?

Such a mystery!

I wonder if he moved out of west Ballina because he knew he had some valuables coming and wanted to try and reduce the possibility of someone seeing them arrive and knowing they are there to steal.

West Ballina is very strangely arranged as, originally, it was all housing commission for lower socioeconomic families, then rich people started moving and gentrifying and developing the Quays and living on the waters edge.

 

[caitlincurious]

That's interesting.

I noticed this too. Well done all. Will be super interesting if we can link AF to Rb's son Gaetan

 

[mishy66]

I became suspicious when Casselden said it was the school holidays that RB chose to go overseas. I wondered if the children were staying somewhere else for the school holidays and went to a swimming camp so the parents could go overseas.

More like he couldn't stand to be around them. From his own accounts he doesn't seem like the nurturing type to enjoy the company of kids everyday, they would only get in his way and upset his plans!

 

[mishy66]

The Lady Vanishes

On this link, you can see RB arriving at Byron Bay Court today. I think his daughter just dropped him off, waited until he went into the Courthouse and then left. They would have come from Miami Beach. RB does not look as if he is familiar with using his walker on the steps.

What makes you say his daughter dropped him off? I dont think it is his daughter that lives in Miami?

 

[KiwiNZ]

New podcast dropped this morning

 

[mishy66]

Do you think it is possible that he already knew Marion and she had some idea where he lived - so he had to move so she couldn't show up at his place? Especially if he was planning all along to steal some of her things, and he was afraid she might show up looking for them?

Such a mystery!

This seems more plausible to me than other theories but who knows.

 

[mishy66]

I enjoy the posts more than the proceedings. Thank you all!

-- I'm sticking with my theory that all or most criminal activity is seated in Europe. RB thought this would keep him safe in Australia. The money from family? Bank accounts or stashes from women he'd conned.
-- Marion screwed him when all her funds werent available to her in UK. He had to let her go back to Aus to get them. This may be his downfall.
-- I also now believe he may be a serial murderer, and if so, a new form of psychopath is born. The RB Con Killer.
-- Marion would never have put her residence as Luxembourg if RB hadn't made her think his home, or their home, was there. Name change maybe. Residence would have been led by him to obscure her movements.
-- Marion's things could have been shipped to Europe. What if FR was RB's fence for stolen goods? ie "furniture business."
-- Psychopaths believe they are smarter than everyone. That's why we need Cassellden!

I have to agree with you re Marion! This has been my theory also. She just would not have done so without some sort of reassurance by suave RB and yes to most of her belongings shipped back over.

 

[caitlincurious]

Do you think it is possible that he already knew Marion and she had some idea where he lived - so he had to move so she couldn't show up at his place? Especially if he was planning all along to steal some of her things, and he was afraid she might show up looking for them?

Such a mystery!

And then... perhaps... he knew it was safe to move back because Marion would no longer be a problem.

 

[StarrChance]

I felt like they spent a lot of time discussing the JAL flights today. Did they say how they knew about the discounted flights? Do you think they know who this staff member is and why he gave RB Willy Wonka the discount for so long?
Now I feel I’m leaning more towards a drug smuggling vibe.

Agree, I feel he obviously knows the name but does not want to give it due to nefarious purposes.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

I politely disagree. Why on earth would Mr. Casselden have asked D. if she knew her, then?

Yes agree dates are way off. His last travel was around 2010 wasn’t it?
But I thought that was Bali for wedding.. but maybe not

 

[mishy66]

That or used his elaborate lies to convince people that coins were worth much more than their actual value. In some coin pamphlet ( posted here by someone) — there is reference to a “Coppenolle collection.” My guess is this is some invented reference used to give the impression the coins are of high value.

This is the post I was wanting to know about. It has been put up previously but what is it about and who is it refering to when it says ....to the current collector's grandmother, Maria Coppenolle de Froyennes (died 1990).

 

[Belleandsebastian]

This is the post I was wanting to know about. It has been put up previously but what is it about and who is it refering to when it says ....to the current collector's grandmother, Maria Coppenolle de Froyennes (died 1990).

It’s his “mother”

 

[mishy66]

Yes agree dates are way off. His last travel was around 2010 wasn’t it?
But I thought that was Bali for wedding.. but maybe not

Yes I think DdeH said last trip was Bali yes. ( one of their childrens weddings perhaps ?)

 

[MrsWattle]

There's a Michael John Reid on Facebook who has Anthonian school in Philippines. There are weird Instagram of the delapidated school in Philippines. It started 1968

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

So RB says he hasn’t been back for roughly the last 10 ish years (?) with no explanation really for why his very frequent trips back suddenly stopped? But this coincides with the letter written by Mrs A F in 2010 which is restricted. They also queried one of RB family members names being Andree too? I wonder if there’s a Mrs A F somewhere in his family and the letter and coincidental ceasation of travel are all to do with family over there finding out he swindled thousands if not millions from his family members / false inheritance?


There may be a different one. I entered the name into FB and found a profile of someone French I think with a profile picture having been updated in 2020.

That’s who I thought it was too FB

 

[mishy66]

It’s his “mother”

yes I know that it is RB mother, but in the advertisement is says ".......acquired by grandfather (died 1949) by succession then to the current collector's grandmother, Maria Coppenolle de Froyennes (died 1990)."

 

[Belleandsebastian]

yes I know that it is RB mother, but in the advertisement is says ".......acquired by grandfather (died 1949) by succession then to the current collector's grandmother, Maria Coppenolle de Froyennes (died 1990)."

He’s making it look like it’s his children selling it I think. Or just telling tales.

 

[mishy66]

He’s making it look like it’s his children selling it I think. Or just telling tales.

Oh Ok . Thank you

 

[mishy66]

He’s making it look like it’s his children selling it I think. Or just telling tales.

So that would match my theory that he doesn't have a nurturing bone in his body in regards to his children and why DdeH did all the kid duties and why he goes overseas during the school holidays.