Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #16

[mishy66]

Today I feel so relieved that the MB FB page has finally released some details into Ilona Kinczel and her death.

My heart has ached for her for so long. Ever since I heard about this case.

There is so much we dont know still but hopefully the light will shine her way and her voice will finally be heard through MB daughter Sally.

She needs her own story to be told, aside from Marions and I am sure everyone feels so much love toward her family.


It is heartbreaking what this pig has done to so many innocent victims, their families and their close friends.

There are things I would love to share on here about her case but her family are much more important than documents.

I also feel it is SL story to share as she and IK children are standing side by side finding a path towards closure and the end of a man who set out to destroy the world of morality.


RIP Ilona Kinczel

Finally you have a voice.

 

[insanity]

Interesting new post on

Today I feel so relieved that the MB FB page has finally released some details into Ilona Kinczel and her death.

My heart has ached for her for so long. Ever since I heard about this case.

There is so much we dont know still but hopefully the light will shine her way and her voice will finally be heard through MB daughter Sally.

She needs her own story to be told, aside from Marions and I am sure everyone feels so much love toward her family.


It is heartbreaking what this pig has done to so many innocent victims, their families and their close friends.

There are things I would love to share on here about her case but her family are much more important than documents.

I also feel it is SL story to share as she and IK children are standing side by side finding a path towards closure and the end of a man who set out to destroy the world of morality.


RIP Ilona Kinczel

Finally you have a voice.

I was just coming to say there was a new post about Ilona.

Can I ask was she still in touch with the prick even though she was remarried. That bit confuses me.

RIP Ilona Kinczel. May you too get justice.

 

[mishy66]

Interesting new post on

I was just coming to say there was a new post about Ilona.

Can I ask was she still in touch with the prick even though she was remarried. That bit confuses me.

RIP Ilona Kinczel. May you too get justice.

No idea.

I would imagine not but given his little quote about poison in yogurt, I put nothing past him.

 

[insanity]

No idea.

I would imagine not but given his little quote about poison in yogurt, I put nothing past him.

Ah ok. I thought it was being implied that he gave her the yogurt IYKWIM.

 

[mishy66]

Ah ok. I thought it was being implied that he gave her the yogurt IYKWIM.

He could have !?

I dont know if he still saw her, no idea.

I just have all the documents on her death and reports, some of what they shared today.

 

[KiwiNZ]

I can just imagine DDH clearing the fridge of all the yogurt as we speak

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

I think the initial communication at the police station when sal first went there, was the human error.

The initial lack of detail taken down, failure to record and process the initial report was the human error. I think this is unacceptable but it happens.. the officer may have been completely stressed out over worked or something else…

I think this was a miscommunication in the fact that the police officer who spoke to sally should have provided / explained options and drew out more of the story from sally.. becouse they knew about missing persons reports, sally didn’t.

Everything went downhill from one initial mistake…

No the police should have done their job properly. There’s been a series of mistakes not just one.

 

[Housemartyn]

So he says the last time he saw her was at his house, threads of truth are woven into his statements. Maybe that was the last time he saw her - but was she alive????

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

This is my guess on who RB may have been inspired by.

Mine too

 

[Carovb5]

As i noticed there are a bunch of new people joining us here, i’d like to share my ‘tricks’ to kinda catch up on a threat:
- use the searchbar here on websleuths if you have a name or location or action you wonder has been posted or want to kno more about.
- google the above
- ask if someone has a timeline or synopsis on something, so you can do your reading

It helps you, it helps the case & it helps the threat not taking steps back but taking steps forward.

Almost everyone here on websleuths will love to help with details, but the reading into a case-part is smth everyone might be able to do for themselves. That way the sleuths that were already on a threat have got somemore time on their hands to sleuth new angles and keep this case going for the lovely Marion!

Welcome to this (and others) threat!

 

[KiwiNZ]

No the police should have done their job properly. There’s been a series of mistakes not just one.

we shouldn't let the department of immigration off the hook either, they clearly had a mandate to revoke his citizenship and did absolutely nothing but push paper around, leaving Australian citizens in harm's way.

 

[xdfg]

The other creep on Netflix is "The puppet Master". And another creepy guy "The Serpent". It certainly give insight to the way they manipulate control victims.

If anyone is looking for yet another case like this, I recommend Dirty John (the original LA Times podcast, not the tv-re-enactment).

 

[TootsieFootsie]

As i noticed there are a bunch of new people joining us here, i’d like to share my ‘tricks’ to kinda catch up on a threat:
- use the searchbar here on websleuths if you have a name or location or action you wonder has been posted or want to kno more about.
- google the above
- ask if someone has a timeline or synopsis on something, so you can do your reading

It helps you, it helps the case & it helps the threat not taking steps back but taking steps forward.

Almost everyone here on websleuths will love to help with details, but the reading into a case-part is smth everyone might be able to do for themselves. That way the sleuths that were already on a threat have got somemore time on their hands to sleuth new angles and keep this case going for the lovely Marion!

Welcome to this (and others) threat!

Great advice Carovb5

 

[Housemartyn]

Wasn't implied at the inquest that Ilona's 2 children were both RBs? Even though he denied it saying 'she was seeing other men' ?

 

[KiwiNZ]

Wasn't implied at the inquest that Ilona's 2 children were both RBs? Even though he denied it saying 'she was seeing other men' ?

Not that I recall - I though only the daughter to IK was implied to be his

The other children from his first marriage 1 he claimed as his, 1 not sure, 1 no

 

[Housemartyn]

Not that I recall - I though only the daughter to IK was implied to be his

The other children from his first marriage 1 he claimed as his, 1 not sure, 1 no

Fairly sure it was implied. I've listened to the inquest a couple of times.

 

[mishy66]

As i noticed there are a bunch of new people joining us here, i’d like to share my ‘tricks’ to kinda catch up on a threat:
- use the searchbar here on websleuths if you have a name or location or action you wonder has been posted or want to kno more about.
- google the above
- ask if someone has a timeline or synopsis on something, so you can do your reading

It helps you, it helps the case & it helps the threat not taking steps back but taking steps forward.

Almost everyone here on websleuths will love to help with details, but the reading into a case-part is smth everyone might be able to do for themselves. That way the sleuths that were already on a threat have got somemore time on their hands to sleuth new angles and keep this case going for the lovely Marion!

Welcome to this (and others) threat!

Best advice ever!

Lets hope everyone reads it .

 

[Housemartyn]

I should image IK did want to see RB after her Belgium 2nd marriage. She would want child support and maybe other stuff to sort out. I could imagine this would have been a huge problem for RB given his new marriage to DDeH. He wouldn't want his past to be unravelled. I can imagine the lies he told to his new wife!

 

[KiwiNZ]

I should image IK did want to see RB after her Belgium 2nd marriage. She would want child support and maybe other stuff to sort out. I could imagine this would have been a huge problem for RB given his new marriage to DDeH. He wouldn't want his past to be unravelled. I can imagine the lies he told to his new wife!

Good point - DDH didn't know he was already married or had children - and the government would be after him for child support

 

[KiwiNZ]

Fairly sure it was implied. I've listened to the inquest a couple of times.

I will listen again