Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #17

[mishy66]

@TootsieFootsie "It takes a village to raise a child” but in the case of Missing MB, means an entire community of people must interact and share their findings to make factual and meaningful outcomes. And that is what this forum has achieved, NOT just one person, as I am positive (IMO) there has been cross-referencing of discoveries here that have been utilised on other platforms.

100% there has

 

[gwebb9]

HE spends / spent a LOT of time here - gathering info for the inquest......IMO

OMG.... of course! I would never have thought of that.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Born 1951 - I dont think she has worked a day in her life. Her family were well off, the sisters family multimillionaires.
She met AH and together formed a partnership to milk the system, not work and gather money from crimes.

He has a few lulls in waiting for his next victim - so finds small pockets of paid work ( probably no more than a week) to glean information on their next target or where to find coin dealers so he can off load his fake coins -
applies for a job in the mail room at Status International and probably at Trendwest........ I think someone here said that was looked into and dismissed??? I am not so sure.....


This isnt a one man band.

IMO
OMO
JMO

Agree 100%.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

HE spends / spent a LOT of time here - gathering info for the inquest......IMO

If it was me and I was under suspicion of something, like a missing person and there was a thread here, I'd be here all the time.
Its only human nature. I'd be here even if I was totally innocent.
I wouldn't post, or like anyone's post. I would try to keep a very low profile.
I would also choose a user name that had no hints as to my real identity (or identities)

 

[MrsWattle]

I AGREE!

SOMETHING DOESNT ADD UP HERE.

PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES

Well while they are waiting for god knows what on him.
They have MORE than enough to take her to the cleaners and press charges!
Starting with PERJURY and DEFRAUDING THE AUST GOVERNMENT OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS whilst holding property portfolios for a start~~ then they can look into the daughter while they are at it!

Exactly Taxpayers of Australia funding their scams. Lots of resources wasted, centrelink being slack.
Does Hank Jongan know?

[email protected].

 

[HinterlandObserver]

If it was me and I was under suspicion of something, like a missing person and there was a thread here, I'd be here all the time.
Its only human nature. I'd be here even if I was totally innocent.
I wouldn't post, or like anyone's post. I would try to keep a very low profile.
I would also choose a user name that had no hints as to my real identity (or identities)

You don’t even need to log in to read threads. Only to reply to them.

 

[KiwiNZ]

applies for a job in the mail room at Status International and probably at Trendwest........ I think someone here said that was looked into and dismissed??? I am not so sure.....

TLV - confirmed the Trendwest was looked into and dismissed but I think now we know he does get jobs when it's convenient for him I do think the Trendwest would be right up his street - selling timeshare is all about targeting people of a certain disposition (careful what I say in case anyone owns timeshare lol)

Probably has one of his many names all set up with a tax number etc... separate to his welfare claim name.

 

[mishy66]

TLV - confirmed the Trendwest was looked into and dismissed but I think now we know he does get jobs when it's convenient for him I do think the Trendwest would be right up his street - selling timeshare is all about targeting people of a certain disposition (careful what I say in case anyone owns timeshare lol)

Probably has one of his many names all set up with a tax number etc... separate to his welfare claim name.

totally !

 

[mishy66]

Can anyone help with this translation please

 

[Liselle]

Can anyone help with this translation please

Not word for word, but "a declaration was drawn up, on that day, in Lorzé". I would imagine that's Lorzé in Switzerland.

 

[mishy66]

Thank you so much

 

[NSh]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...ws-story/a2a4707ba11682ce4b08427ec21fc1e3?amp

Mr Blum’s fourth and current wife Diane, whom he married in 1976, has been on a carer’s pension since the 1980s to take care of him.

He looked well & healthy at their daughters wedding in Bali .. 2011!!!

 

[VisitorDog]

JMO, but based on his apparent knowledge of coins, antiques, perhaps poisons, not to mention the people who happen to have the same names as his alleged aliases and other, people with similar, erm, talents - presumably he must be very widely read in quite niche subjects. This was often well prior to the internet. Presumably he must have frequented libraries or bookshops where specific books would need researching and ordering?

How I wish those records, particularly libraries, in the areas he’s lived, were accessible.

 

[MrsWattle]

TLV - confirmed the Trendwest was looked into and dismissed but I think now we know he does get jobs when it's convenient for him I do think the Trendwest would be right up his street - selling timeshare is all about targeting people of a certain disposition (careful what I say in case anyone owns timeshare lol)

Probably has one of his many names all set up with a tax number etc... separate to his welfare claim name.

It would be interesting if he conned any prospective trendwest timeshare investors. Did the company have imposters out on the street. Imagine Lurch Blum approaching you. eewww!

 

[MrsWattle]

TLV - confirmed the Trendwest was looked into and dismissed but I think now we know he does get jobs when it's convenient for him I do think the Trendwest would be right up his street - selling timeshare is all about targeting people of a certain disposition (careful what I say in case anyone owns timeshare lol)

Probably has one of his many names all set up with a tax number etc... separate to his welfare claim name.

It would be interesting if he conned any prospective trendwest timeshare investors. Did the company have imposters out on the street?. Imagine Lurch Blum approaching you. eewww! Shudder,shudder

*also the fraudulent Pilot Douglas Reid case is interesting.
R and L Westbury investors or shareholders?

 

[mishy66]

It would be interesting if he conned any prospective trendwest timeshare investors. Did the company have imposters out on the street?. Imagine Lurch Blum approaching you. eewww! Shudder,shudder

*also the fraudulent Pilot Douglas Reid case is interesting.
R and L Westbury investors or shareholders?

Australia - Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #14

This isn't necessarily specific to the 1990s but she arrived on a Saturday

www.websleuths.com

Douglas Reid was the deputy Chairman of Southern Cross Holdings Ltd

 

[Martinie]

I wonder if stripping him of his Australian citizenship or threatening to, might be aimed at trying to get him to admit that he knows more about what happened to Marion.

Ie if you make me leave, I won't tell you. You'll never find out what I know if you make me go.

And maybe that's why no action on kicking him out ?

I spoke to a friend that works at centrelink and he had never even heard of this guy, so I think it's best if we all report him and DDH to centrelink... Just in case..

 

[Martinie]

I think the worst thing right now, is to have him kicked out of the country.

Yeah. The centrelink route would be better because they would imprison him and he would be stuck in a cell while the sleuthing continues..

 

[MrsWattle]

I spoke to a friend that works at centrelink and he had never even heard of this guy, so I think it's best if we all report him and DDH to centrelink... Just in case..

My question is. Did he change his name with centrelink everytime he had a name change or did he just use the "one bank account for his pension income in the
De Hedervary name. And travel on the other names?

 

[Martinie]

JMO, but based on his apparent knowledge of coins, antiques, perhaps poisons, not to mention the people who happen to have the same names as his alleged aliases and other, people with similar, erm, talents - presumably he must be very widely read in quite niche subjects. This was often well prior to the internet. Presumably he must have frequented libraries or bookshops where specific books would need researching and ordering?

How I wish those records, particularly libraries, in the areas he’s lived, were accessible.

IS ANYONE HERE A LIBRARIAN?!?!