Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #17

[mishy66]

IMO both children have benefited from RB's ill gotten gains to maybe such a stage it makes them complicite. They seemed to have lived a quite comfortable life with money freely available for their sports and many trips associated with it that a lot of families can't afford. If they have been given funds to buy cars, houses etc., they won't want anyone to poke around their finances. I personally would be suspicious if my parents were on centerlink yet can afford all the trips to Europe, Bali and God knows where else.

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Not to mention University fees whilst having a unit to live in under mothers?? name and other 2 bedroom unit for the parents ?? at the time of he attending Uni....

I am not saying DdeH is in anyway involved with his fathers atrocious dealings but he would know enough to go to the police and now that Andree Flamme has said he responded the NEXT DAY to her email - while also saying he hadn't spoken to his father at that time for 6 MONTHS = He has certainly spoken to him after that 6 months because the GC neighbour stated he visited them while they lived on Gold Coast = from 2009 - 2013

The thing is that Diane and kids KNEW about his dealings with Andree Flamme back in 2010 and did nothing even after she threatening to go to the authorities!


""".....Ms Flamme and her family followed up with another email on July 18, 2010, telling Mr Blum’s son, David, that she was about to contact Australian authorities and the media.

Mr Blum’s son replied by email the following day. “To whom it may concern. Be notified that my sister and I have nothing to do with our father,” his email stated.

“We live separate lives and we are not aware of his travels, doings or anything else – in fact I left home in 1999 and I have not seen him in the last six months.”

Ms Flamme’s suggestion that he could have some sort of tacit complicity in his father’s actions could be taken as extortion, he added. “In any case you are barking up the wrong tree and (I) warn you that I will seek legal advice,” the email states.


DdeH also states he and his SISTER have had nothing to do with their father = well we al know that isnt true = MdeH has been front and centre with house living along side the parents for years.

Maybe they are all liars like their parents??

Can't believe a word any of them say!

 

[ruby925]

This account was from ER and IK aunt - it was in one of the newspapers.

".....when it comes to the relationship between her mother, Ilona Reid, and Mr Blum, she knows only what she has been told by family members.
Those stories are as astonishing as almost everything else that has been revealed about her father.
Ms Reid’s mother was from Hungary and migrated with her family to Belgium, where she formed a relationship with Mr Blum.
According to an aunt, her mother was wildly in love with Mr Blum, but a private investigator hired by her suspicious family “found out that he had other wives and other children”.
Ms Reid’s mother ignored her family’s warnings about Mr Blum, only to later discover for herself “how horrible he was”, the aunt said.
“The story … is that she fled Belgium to get away from him,” Ms Reid said.
“The story (the aunt) told me was of this crazy man in a Porsche on the Euro freeway where you can drive a million miles an hour, with a gun, trying to get to the boat before it sails off – and that that was him.
Not long after her mother arrived in Australia, so did Mr Blum. Her mother had met someone else on the ship....."


".......When Mr Blum first met IK he falsely represented being unmarried without children. She got a private detective and she found out he had a wife and two kids...."


"........Ilona had married AKA in Belgium just days prior to leaving for a new life in Australia. IK actually requested to leave for Australia later because she was marrying AKA, so she postponed her trip ...."


".... IK then reunited with WW in LILLE in France and lived with him WITH THE BABY UNTIL just before HE WAS ARRESTED. (ONCE HE HAD RETURNED FROM AUSTRALIA AFTER HIS CRUISE ON THE CHUSAN WITH DIANE– 1971 )

(AKA arrived in Amsterdam about 14th May, 1971 and within five weeks, he was arrested in France)

This is the time IK reunites with him then leaves him again = then sometime between June 1971 and her arrival back into Aust she marries MJR in Budapest. ( WHATEVER THAT REASON IS we may never know) I would say to escape from the Monster and change her name to head back in Aust where she felt safest and had family here to support her.

BUT HE STILL MANAGED TO FIND HER = IMO


ER was born January 1970.

IK = I have a family of Reid coming out on a ship to Aust 1973

IK = working at Beales by 1974


I will say that it would be VERY easy to falsify information on a death cert if you had all the "correct documentation".....

Thank you Mishy, no idea how you manage to recall/retrieve so much. So from that info, it may be that IK 'fled Belgium' to get away from him in or after 1971, rather than in 1969 on the original trip to Aus when they had just married, approx 9mths before ER was born. Happy to be corrected, but that timeline makes more sense IMO.
I am just gutted that an inadequate pathetic person has been able to taint/wreck so many lives. All MOO

 

[KiwiNZ]

The current home of the deceitful Blums sales / purchase history

 

[Martinie]

They didn't say he had lost his citizenship. They just quoted the figures of how many people had ever lost their citizenship in the last several decades (did they say since 1948?) and on what grounds.

To me it sounded like a pitifully low number (in double digits not the hundreds or even thousands) and therefore sounds like a rare and unusual event.

It was explained that once a person loses their citizenship they become an 'ex-citizen' and may still reside but if leaving the country cannot return back in.

I am hoping being an ex citizen SHOULD disqualify them from government payments, too! bloody !

 

[hoodunnit]

There was no new information in the latest podcast, (aside from ER's revelation of another lady giving AKA a huge sum of money in Melbourne). MC's interview seemed pretty pointless. She either knows A LOT that she isn't giving up, or really does know nothing. I was quite disappointed to be honest.

 

[mishy66]

Thank you Mishy, no idea how you manage to recall/retrieve so much. So from that info, it may be that IK 'fled Belgium' to get away from him in or after 1971, rather than in 1969 on the original trip to Aus when they had just married, approx 9mths before ER was born. Happy to be corrected, but that timeline makes more sense IMO.
I am just gutted that an inadequate pathetic person has been able to taint/wreck so many lives. All MOO

yes that is correct - IK fled to Aust again to get away from him after they reconnected again in France @ 1971 after his boat trip with Diane.

 

[mishy66]

The current home of the deceitful Blums sales / purchase history

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I keep saying they have coin....

 

[CuriousKat99]

There was no new information in the latest podcast, (aside from ER's revelation of another lady giving AKA a huge sum of money in Melbourne). MC's interview seemed pretty pointless. She either knows A LOT that she isn't giving up, or really does know nothing. I was quite disappointed to be honest.

Well MC did quote AKA confessing to murder. Contrast that to his claims at the inquest that he has never hurt anyone..

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I thought it was one of the more interesting episodes.
Hearing from Monique gave me a better insight into her relationship with him.

 

[Martinie]

100%

Not to mention University fees whilst having a unit to live in under mothers?? name and other 2 bedroom unit for the parents ?? at the time of he attending Uni....

I am not saying DdeH is in anyway involved with his fathers atrocious dealings but he would know enough to go to the police and now that Andree Flamme has said he responded the NEXT DAY to her email - while also saying he hadn't spoken to his father at that time for 6 MONTHS = He has certainly spoken to him after that 6 months because the GC neighbour stated he visited them while they lived on Gold Coast = from 2009 - 2013

The thing is that Diane and kids KNEW about his dealings with Andree Flamme back in 2010 and did nothing even after she threatening to go to the authorities!


""".....Ms Flamme and her family followed up with another email on July 18, 2010, telling Mr Blum’s son, David, that she was about to contact Australian authorities and the media.

Mr Blum’s son replied by email the following day. “To whom it may concern. Be notified that my sister and I have nothing to do with our father,” his email stated.

“We live separate lives and we are not aware of his travels, doings or anything else – in fact I left home in 1999 and I have not seen him in the last six months.”

Ms Flamme’s suggestion that he could have some sort of tacit complicity in his father’s actions could be taken as extortion, he added. “In any case you are barking up the wrong tree and (I) warn you that I will seek legal advice,” the email states.


DdeH also states he and his SISTER have had nothing to do with their father = well we al know that isnt true = MdeH has been front and centre with house living along side the parents for years.

Maybe they are all liars like their parents??

Can't believe a word any of them say!

I think it's a bit odd that he threatened that he would seek legal advice... For what exactly? Hmmmm

 

[MrsWattle]

'bout time more family, friends and associates step forward reveal what you know about Blum. Make the anonymous contact via the lady vanishes website if you don't want to show your face. Those secrets are better off your chest!

Monique said she feels much better after making a police statement.

 

[KiwiNZ]

I thought it was one of the more interesting episodes.
Hearing from Monique gave me a better insight into her relationship with him.

me too ... and I liked her !

 

[KiwiNZ]

""".....Ms Flamme and her family followed up with another email on July 18, 2010, telling Mr Blum’s son, David, that she was about to contact Australian authorities and the media.

Mr Blum’s son replied by email the following day. “To whom it may concern. Be notified that my sister and I have nothing to do with our father,” his email stated.

“We live separate lives and we are not aware of his travels, doings or anything else – in fact I left home in 1999 and I have not seen him in the last six months.”

Ms Flamme’s suggestion that he could have some sort of tacit complicity in his father’s actions could be taken as extortion, he added. “In any case you are barking up the wrong tree and (I) warn you that I will seek legal advice,” the email states.


DdeH also states he and his SISTER have had nothing to do with their father = well we al know that isnt true = MdeH has been front and centre with house living along side the parents for years.

Maybe they are all liars like their parents??

Can't believe a word any of them say!

feels like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

and if DHD feel's her children are unfairly caught in the crossfire, it is squarely on her shoulders no one else's, that's her cross to bare, all her choices and so many victims, possible including her own family from HER life decisions. I get others will not agree just MO

 

[brjakj]

Does anyone else wish they would pronounce his surname more like ‘scum’ than ‘bloom’ (like a flower - how ironic)?

 

[KinseyFan]

I keep saying they have coin....

The current home of the deceitful Blums sales / purchase history

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Do we know if they own it? If so, given they’re pensioners, wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume it was either paid for with the proceeds of crime or income undeclared to centerlink and the ATO? Just my opinion only of course

 

[Flippitypip]

Do we know if they own it? If so, given they’re pensioners, wouldn’t it be reasonable to assume it was either paid for with the proceeds of crime or income undeclared to centerlink and the ATO? Just my opinion only of course

The daughter is listed as the owner of the property.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

IMO definitely got confused and lost there... she said she asked her husband (did she mean FR or a second husband?) who knew about psychology to go and speak with 'him' as she had started to not believe the things he said. If she had a next husband after FR then that is also confusing as did she mean go speak to FR or go speak to RB?

The real FR is the trained psychologist. In a way I wish they had interviewed her in her native Luxembourgish or in French. There were a whole host of questions I would have liked to ask about their relationship and more about Aka himself.

 

[gymtonic]

Well MC did quote AKA confessing to murder. Contrast that to his claims at the inquest that he has never hurt anyone..

The problem with this though is that it followed another MC statement that he always told stories, never told the truth and that everything that came out of his mouth was a lie! So this can hardly be used as proof eh? For me it was another “Walter Mitty” to tie in with his “secret agent” claim and make himself sound more important and threatening. I’m not saying it’s not possible or that he may tell the occasional truth…but who’s to know when that is without any corroborating evidence. It’s the evidence that we need, not what he said at some point.

 

[KinseyFan]

The daughter is listed as the owner of the property.

But still worth following the money trail. Didn’t they do that for Melbournes gangland murders? Follow the money and recoup what they could

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

If the real FR knew his identity card had been stolen once upon a time why didn’t he mention this? Surely MC would have told him of Aka’s Australian links before the supposed meeting?

When MC was first interviewed on the TLV no mention from her about the FR & Aka meeting and stolen ID card? Again the Australian link would surely have been a red flag?

Why did MC retain the love letters from such a dangerous guy?

Just a few of the questions I might have asked?