Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #17

[TootsieFootsie]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/fears-conman-ric-blum-had-a-gun-new-claims-in-marion-barter-mystery/news-story/d230f62be0c87124f75355c378b5f0ec?amp

Fears conman Ric Blum had a gun: New claims in Marion Barter mystery​

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[Meligator]

Thanks for sharing that article. I’m confused about the section below. How did she go from the airport to a cruise without the baby?

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[TootsieFootsie]

Thanks for sharing that article. I’m confused about the section below. How did she go from the airport to a cruise without the baby?

I'm confused too ?

Something that makes it make sense is missing.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

And the photo... She seems happy... Him maybe not so much.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

We lost @Peralta too by the looks.
Shame.

Oh hi! Still here. Been quiet but still following developments, which have been AMAZING!!!

I’m ecstatic other media are finally picking up the story. David is known for producing quality investigative journalism. Shame it’s all paywalled. How great would it be if he did his own podcast on it?! Or even the Belgian journalists?! It would definitely widen the audience. I know so many people who are interested in Marion’s story, give TLV an A for effort, but can’t stomach getting through an episode. Getting experienced people to cover it will do a world of good, and would put an appropriate amount of public pressure on LE to do a thorough job. MOO.

 

[HinterlandObserver]

Oh hi! Still here. Been quiet but still following developments, which have been AMAZING!!!

I’m ecstatic other media are finally picking up the story. David is known for producing quality investigative journalism. Shame it’s all paywalled. How great would it be if he did his own podcast on it?! Or even the Belgian journalists?! It would definitely widen the audience. I know so many people who are interested in Marion’s story, give TLV an A for effort, but can’t stomach getting through an episode. Getting experienced people to cover it will do a world of good, and would put an appropriate amount of public pressure on LE to do a thorough job. MOO.

Great to see you active again!

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Thanks for sharing that article. I’m confused about the section below. How did she go from the airport to a cruise without the baby?

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Perhaps this timeline helps?

18 Jan 1970 - Baby E born in Australia.
15 Feb 1970 - IK, baby and a friend are at the airport watching WW depart Australia.
Around March 1970 - 6-week old Baby E stays with friend, and IK is on a cruise where she meets MR.
8 May 1970 - Baby E departs Australia for Belgium with a person unknown.
5 Oct 1970 - IK departs Australia.

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[Deleted member 249471]

It's all very strange and confusing.

WHY did IK go on a cruise shortly after giving birth?

Another curiosity is the unusually high percentage of couples in this story who met on a ship.
Were ships the online dating of the 1970s?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

TLV an A for effort, but can’t stomach getting through an episode. Getting experienced people to cover it will do a world of good,

Same here. I have to force myself to get through an episode.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Didn't we have passenger cards that IK departed with WW, on the same flight - 15 Feb 1970, flight UT2506 from Sydney to Belgium?

At the time we thought it strange they were on same flight claiming to be divorced AND left baby behind.

It was only during inquest that AKA raised the notion only HE got on the plane and waved goodbye to his daughter at the airport.

And now MR is saying IK, baby and a friend watched WW leave that day.

So did IK get on that flight or not? Did someone else use her name to fly out that day?

Also can @mishy66 remind us why we thought IK married in 1970 in Budapest, but MR is saying it was December 1971?

At the time, we thought it was interesting that in less than a year she gave birth, divorced and was now marrying in Budapest. To the point we hypothesised maybe Reid was a Hungarian name and she found a family friend from Budapest to marry and move to Australia with, lol.

I don't want to throw too may logs on the fire BUT the story of AKA+DW and IK+MR have a lot of similarities and is mind bendingly confusing.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Still seems a strange time to take a cruise, when your baby is only six weeks old.

Maybe she took the cruise to get away from Willy. Maybe he stressed her out so much she needed a break.
Maybe her parents hoped she would meet someone else ? Did they go with her ?

 

[VisitorDog]

The baby situation is a little strange. When does she divorce AKA?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Michael Reid was much better looking than RB (WW)
In my opinion.

Edited to say that I know looks aren't everything.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

The baby situation is a little strange. When does she divorce AKA?

We don't know.
The only date reference we have is the passenger card.
But we know he lies on them frequently.
The fact is, we don't even know if they actually married. Therefore, they may not have needed a real divorce.

To make it all more confusing IK got back together with WW for a while. And was on and off with MR. Or so we're told.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Maybe the cruise was a plan by the parents...

 

[hoodunnit]

Didn't we have passenger cards that IK departed with WW, on the same flight - 15 Feb 1970, flight UT2506 from Sydney to Belgium?

At the time we thought it strange they were on same flight claiming to be divorced AND left baby behind.

It was only during inquest that AKA raised the notion only HE got on the plane and waved goodbye to his daughter at the airport?

And now MR is saying IK, baby and a friend watched WW leave that day.

So did IK get on that flight or not? Did someone else use her name to fly out that day?

Also can @mishy66 remind us why we thought IK married in 1970 in Budapest, but MR is saying it was December 1971?

At the time, we thought it was interesting that in less than a year she gave birth, divorced and was now marrying in Budapest. To the point we hypothesised maybe Reid was a Hungarian name and she found a family friend from Budapest to marry and move to Australia with, lol.

I don't want to throw too may logs on the fire BUT the story of AKA+DW and IK+MR have a lot of similarities and is mind bendingly confusing.

I've got outgoing cards from Sydney for WW 15th Feb 1970 and IK 10th May 1970, so her cruise must have been early March.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Yes, I have that too!

There was a lot of traction on this forum at that time (during inquest) and a lot of new people were quickly posting timelines, people who have never returned. Most of the info was good, but there were a few errors we're still untangling today.

So, pretty sure it was an error and there's no passenger card for IK on 15 Feb 1970.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Also, WW departure card in Feb 1970 says divorced
But IK departure card in May 1970 says married.

 

[mishy66]

I've got outgoing cards from Sydney for WW 15th Feb 1970 and IK 10th May 1970, so her cruise must have been early March.

Correct

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

He believes his wife IK/R died at the wheel of her car of a broken heart. JMO but I don’t believe that for one second.