Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #20

[mishy66]

Effing pig of a human
I hope D and M are reading , watching, hearing all this.

Evelyn asked for his help, because she was struggling for money and he suggested she become a prostitute

 

[mishy66]

Is there some sort of fracture now between TLV and MBFB Page.???

Reading the comments the past few months and hearing on last podcast SL didn't know about the engagement notice, seems very odd

 

[KathPlumber]

Is there some sort of fracture now between TLV and MBFB Page.???

Reading the comments the past few months and hearing on last podcast SL didn't know about the engagement notice, seems very odd

Many of the newest comments on the fb page would seem to indicate it. IMO I guess it’s a pretty tricky situation and a lot of different factors to juggle and not surprising those relationships might start to fray under prolonged pressure (especially when you also factor in dealing with a commercial tv network not exactly known for its scruples).
But I think I speak for all when I say we all hate the thought of more stress and more layers of complexity for SL to juggle. Jmvho

 

[TootsieFootsie]

DBM

 

[TootsieFootsie]

So it seems that Mr AKA isn't totally against "working" with someone else on his nefarious scams.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

IMO, AH would be *exceptionally* tall for being a jewish man of his age / generation.

However, he would not be tall for say the netherlands or northern europe heritage.

JMO

 

[Housemartyn]

Is there some sort of fracture now between TLV and MBFB Page.???

Reading the comments the past few months and hearing on last podcast SL didn't know about the engagement notice, seems very odd

I agree! I've been thinking the same for a while now!

 

[centred]

No mention of D & M dH either

Many of the newest comments on the fb page would seem to indicate it. IMO I guess it’s a pretty tricky situation and a lot of different factors to juggle and not surprising those relationships might start to fray under prolonged pressure (especially when you also factor in dealing with a commercial tv network not exactly known for its scruples).
But I think I speak for all when I say we all hate the thought of more stress and more layers of complexity for SL to juggle. Jmvho

Even Joni believed spotlight were very light on details , dates and places that could do with the exposure ..I am relieved though that i can now go back to never viewing spot light and the likes of them again ....there must have been an agreement between spotlight and podcast i would say ... if spotlight gave details the podcast would become irrelevant for some people to bother listening , its a ratings thing ...to them all ..IMO


The podcast was gripping but disturbing in so many ways ... and a lot to unpack .....

Did anyone note Evelyn said in spotlight that the police told her she was lucky she escaped him alive ...but in the podcast she said she had not been interviewed by the police ??

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Evelyn informs us she spoke to DdeH who on being told by Evelyn that she was AKAs daughter promptly put the phone down. She might have thought it a crank call but I suspect even she might have questioned him after that call.

 

[sah10406]

At about 47'30" in the podcast ep 51 ER drops an incidental comment that confirms something I have been wondering / assuming for years. As well as all the Australian passports in his different identities, she says RB has a Belgian passport.

This information here says you need a new passport for a name change in Belgium:

Name change

Please bear in mind that changing one’s name can have considerable administrative consequences.

unitedkingdom.diplomatie.belgium.be

Once the name change has been registered in the Belgian National Register, you will receive a confirmation by email and you will be required to apply for a new Belgian identity/travel documents. For this a payment is expected.

So maybe there is a very interesting file somewhere in the Belgian consulate in Australia.

This all means that any entry by RB into an EU country, and any travel between EU countries, will have been under the right of free movement and hence with minimal or no checking. This includes Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands and (at that time) UK.

Him having a Belgian passport was probably front and centre in the con, and a reason why Janet and Marion were persuaded that they could just up and move to Europe despite apparently having not applied for any visa to do so.

 

[caitlincurious]

Is there some sort of fracture now between TLV and MBFB Page.???

Reading the comments the past few months and hearing on last podcast SL didn't know about the engagement notice, seems very odd

On finding the engagement notice they would have had to tender it as evidence for the inquest and legally may not have been able to tell Sally. haven’t finished the podcast yet though

I do agree the two pages are operating completely differently (and not really very well) at this point

 

[mishy66]

So it seems that Mr AKA isn't totally against "working" with someone else on his nefarious scams.

There was always going to be others with him.
He was never a ione wolf. Ive said this many times.
The bank procedures indicated this way back.
Higgins. Childs.
He cant have carried off much of what he did without contacts.
Which is why he will never disclose what happened to Marion IMO.
MC, FR, his stepbrothers, Diane, their kids, Vernon, and more over the decades that have come and gone.

Just my opinion of course

 

[mishy66]

Confirmation on MBFB Page he is the son of unmarried Maria Coppenolle and Desire David.
Born 1939.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Confirmation on MBFB Page he is the son of unmarried Maria Coppenolle and Desire David.
Born 1939.

How does anyone know for sure? Is it formally documented / proven now?

Just asking out of curiosity after all this time, not trying to make a smart remark or interjection

 

[wallyworld]

I got the impression they cut the episode for some reason. Maybe for legal reasons? Hopefully the podcast is enlightening.

I thought so as well

 

[MrPickles]

Even Joni believed spotlight were very light on details , dates and places that could do with the exposure ..I am relieved though that i can now go back to never viewing spot light and the likes of them again ....there must have been an agreement between spotlight and podcast i would say ... if spotlight gave details the podcast would become irrelevant for some people to bother listening , its a ratings thing ...to them all ..IMO


The podcast was gripping but disturbing in so many ways ... and a lot to unpack .....

Did anyone note Evelyn said in spotlight that the police told her she was lucky she escaped him alive ...but in the podcast she said she had not been interviewed by the police ??

Yes, the podcast was absolutely gripping!

It was JO who said the police said she was lucky to have escaped AKA.

 

[mishy66]

How does anyone know for sure? Is it formally documented / proven now?

Just asking out of curiosity after all this time, not trying to make a smart remark or interjection

SL posted it up on the page.
They have had his birth cert for a while

 

[KiwiNZ]

Yes that's right. My reception had a bit of interference and I missed hearing a few words.

I thought it sounded odd that he wanted only to get insurance from her death, and not all she owned.

Re the bottle of wine. Maybe somehow he got hold of a document which showed he would cash out if she died.

Or maybe he thought he'd told her too much and if she drank from the bottle that would finish her off and shut her up.

Monsters do exist

I thought the reason he didn't turn up to dinner after she dropped him off at the women's house was to distance himself from the crime he was trying to commit, which was to poison her with the Champagne.

This guys is so so so sick and twisted what an absolute monster.

As for DH hanging up on her - cold as ICE.

 

[KiwiNZ]

I suppose this finally puts a stop to my idea he was born a Jewish Hungarian. Still doesn’t answer (to me anyway) why his family are living with a Hungarian surname and witnesses have said he was Jewish. He recounts Jewish stories but I accept those could be his normal BS.

If Everlyn did an ancestry test it would tell her if she was of Jewish decent, but I am sure the poor women has enough on her plate, the DNA tests can answer a lot but also open other cans of worms.

 

[KiwiNZ]

Evelyn informs us she spoke to DdeH who on being told by Evelyn that she was AKAs daughter promptly put the phone down. She might have thought it a crank call but I suspect even she might have questioned him after that call.

Why would he give her his home phone number lol.. it's like every so often he does the dumbest thing for such an established criminal.

I am not even convinced the police would have kept on pursuing RB in regard to MB had he not thrown himself head first into the mix by admitting he knew her, I think the police would have thought it was all to hard to prove had he not just turned up and handed them all they needed to make the link and connection without having to do the hard yards to prove it lol