Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #23

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

She has known exactly what he’s been doing for years. She benefitted from the financial gains and most likely items that were stolen from others as well.

She knows!

 

[mishy66]

She has known exactly what he’s been doing for years. She benefitted from the financial gains and most likely items that were stolen from others as well.

She knows!

Like JO amber necklace perhaps

 

[mishy66]

Something is up

Leading up to the new podcast, additional names have been added to a certain Coppenolle tree that many have used prior

Some have been removed altogether

Anyone heard of Leon Coppenolle born 1950

 

[brjakj]

Podcast is available now on Apple Podcasts. Subscription is required.

As per The Missing Matter FB page - will be available on other platforms on 26th May 2025.

 

[mishy66]

Something is up

Leading up to the new podcast, additional names have been added to a certain Coppenolle tree that many have used prior

Some have been removed altogether

Anyone heard of Leon Coppenolle born 1950

Michel Coppenolle born 1950 ....

Some trees are back filled with BS links.....especially the RC tree. I mean WHY do that if there is nothing to hide

And some have gone altogether.

Some have additional family members all of a sudden


AH probs has one of those trees


A brand new podcast about to reveal some truths for once in all these years, and suddenly many of the main family trees are filled with Aliases

This tells me its going to be a wild ride the next few weeks.

Diane and Kids, I hope you have your popcorn ready

 

[mishy66]

The US of A is going to be an interesting offshoot of all this


JMO of course

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Something is up

Leading up to the new podcast, additional names have been added to a certain Coppenolle tree that many have used prior

Some have been removed altogether

Anyone heard of Leon Coppenolle born 1950

How is Leon born 1950???

 

[mishy66]

How is Leon born 1950???

That's the thing with it all.
These 2 names have recently, just prior to the podcast announcement, shown themselves on some trees some of us used long ago.
Leon Coppenolle born 1950
Michel Coppenolle born 1950

So many aliases now showing on them and in one particular one, what is now on it is a total lie because previous evidence, long before the inquest, showed the accurate lineage. ( which I have in my "AH filing cabinet" )

I think you know what I'm talking about here, right

I guess a few ways to look at it all now is:

1. The public has been lied to about what his real name is and what actual family he was born into all along. And that the SAME Q that was asked here many times, "WHEN did the actual family of Charles Coppenolle come about in relation to this family and him being part of it" - WHEN was that and WHO said it was HIS family????

2. SL said he was born WC and MC was his mother and that she hadn't married the father prior to his birth.
That could mean technically he was born Willy David - (Coppenolle). This FITS with the past companies he has / had.
And his cousin saying he was Willy David.
AH himself stated at the inquest: " on the record of my birth, WHICH I HAVE, I was DECLARED AS
WILLY COPPENOLLE" - He sprinkles teeny truths in his web of lies to keep himself grounded to his past. This name has been kept relatively clean throughout the decades - he opened the safety deposit box in this name and also the neighbour stated he signed off on paperwork for AH new passport in 2011 under the name WDC.

I think his kids names have a role in his past too.
David being AH last name and Gordon being Dags fathers name
Maite being a family name and Chusan where he and Dags met.

There was also the clipping I found with DD taking Marias father Charles to court in 1938 - so he was on the scene at least by then.

3. TLV podcast and book led the public astray about who he was and who his parents were ..... say no more

4. He was born into another branch of the DAVID family and MC raised him as her own - explains why he had no connection to her at all - couldn't even recall at the inquest when she died and mentioned her as "the person which I bared the name"

I'm staying with his father is RC and given to MC at the beginning of the war - until actual proof otherwise, thats my honest view.

The whole saga has been filled with so much lying, it's time to be honest about everything IMO

That's in both camps. JMO

BTW - I found the step father

 

[mishy66]

I went looking through my "AH filing cabinet " today after all the tree changes ( must be autumn and thats why there are tree changes - cant think of any other reason ) and I realised that there was another Coppenolle family connected to the MC family that also ended up in Riding Yorkshire , (aside from RC himself, AND the family found with MJR).

This side of the Coppenolles had a daughter who found herself in Riding Yorkshire, married a few times ( just like most of the Coppenolle clan) and one husband was from Poland and one marriage was to a local and their child grew up to be an engineer, specialising in CAD - pretty handy if you needed blueprints for anything. Like inventions or the like maybe...He was quite famous, him and his Japanese wife.
SO many coincidences.....

 

[Candytuft]

Boroughbridge is in my neck of the woods. It was in the West Riding of Yorkshire ( there used to be 3 Ridings, East, West and North) but the boundaries were changed in 1973 and now it's in the new County of North Yorkshire. It's a nice little place.

 

[mishy66]

Boroughbridge is in my neck of the woods. It was in the West Riding of Yorkshire ( there used to be 3 Ridings, East, West and North) but the boundaries were changed in 1973 and now it's in the new County of North Yorkshire. It's a nice little place.

That is exactly the region they all ended up. Most of them that went over all ended up in that region. So when RC was born there, the families had lots of support for each other.

 

[mishy66]

Michel C born 1950 is the right family of Maria - just been reminded of that. We know of his family through the podcast.

There are SO many Coppenolles and they seemed to have married within their close circles / family, and have generational names passed down which is perfect for a criminals life. It is like a bee hive.

And the UK families are all related to Marias extended family.

AH works within these families walls.

His past crimes shown on NAA are all connected to these families.

Arent they Blum. Yeah they are.

He literally stole from his own family and that of his own ancestors. His discretions are all family orientated. This is how he got away with so much in the early days before his move to Australia.

Like the De Jonckheere Gallery theft - The owners mother was a Bouten - maybe the connection to his alias
This family is connected to MC family

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

One thing that still intrigues is his story of being in the Belgian war orphanage from the age of 3 (1942) to 1951 when he goes to Germany to meet up again with his ‘Mum’ & stepfather Wouters. A 14 year old boy would look a lot different to when they were aged 3.

This seems a hell of a long time before being reunited (not sure where his ‘brothers’ were during that period) and why was he still there 6 years after WW2 ended?

I still continue to wonder if this guy was a cuckoo in the nest. He is just so vague about those early years and appears to have little or no emotional attachment to his Coppenolle ‘family’. Would it also make it easier to fleece and impersonate your own ‘family’ along with any other unsuspecting victim that became entrapped in his web of lies & criminality?

I believe his lover and at least one of his victims said he was Jewish and there would have been a lot of child refugees that were evacuated to Belgium in the chaos & aftermath of WW2.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Sorry my maths was awful there. I should have said 12 years old in 1951!

 

[Procrastinator]

Like JO amber necklace perhaps

Similar to the one in a photo taken at a wedding in Bali?

 

[mishy66]

Similar to the one in a photo taken at a wedding in Bali?

EXACTLY

 

[mishy66]

One thing that still intrigues is his story of being in the Belgian war orphanage from the age of 3 (1942) to 1951 when he goes to Germany to meet up again with his ‘Mum’ & stepfather Wouters. A 14 year old boy would look a lot different to when they were aged 3.

This seems a hell of a long time before being reunited (not sure where his ‘brothers’ were during that period) and why was he still there 6 years after WW2 ended?

I still continue to wonder if this guy was a cuckoo in the nest. He is just so vague about those early years and appears to have little or no emotional attachment to his Coppenolle ‘family’. Would it also make it easier to fleece and impersonate your own ‘family’ along with any other unsuspecting victim that became entrapped in his web of lies & criminality?

I believe his lover and at least one of his victims said he was Jewish and there would have been a lot of child refugees that were evacuated to Belgium in the chaos & aftermath of WW2.

You hit the nail on the head there @Lord Peter Flimsy

The orphanage story of his was cow manure. He is full of it.

Speaking of Freddy David - born 1942 - what was he doing when MC and WW went to her sisters after her leg was blown off????? The other son DD - born 1943 - would have just been born when they went to the sisters. This is going on what SL has said. That part is still as clear as his quagmire.

So what??, the sister took Maria in with her one leg blown off and 3 babies ??? Something off in that story IMO

I have a theory that WW, FD and DD are brothers by different fathers and that AH is not one of them at all. I have a theory that he USED the ID of WW and FD in his adventures and that Diane W actually married Willy Coppenolle - different father and mother.

 

[Procrastinator]

EXACTLY

JO had a necklace exactly like this one?

 

[mishy66]

JO had a necklace exactly like this one?

I cant be sure. But she had an Amber Necklace that was stolen and DdeH is photographed with a VERY similar necklace at their daughters wedding. BTW I would LOVE to put all that up in regard to that wedding union because that is another tangled but very relevant story to all this.

 

[mishy66]

This is his passport photo that he used when he arrived into Aust with IK in 1969

The links have been posted previously from NAA

And this is him in 1969 at their wedding - links previously posted on the TLV page

He wears his hair across his forehead.

The PP photo shows a smaller forehead and combed back

Either that PP photo was taken when he was yrs younger OR he used the photograph of WW

There is no denying they are related but I cant see that they are one and the same

JMO


By 1969 the family of IK was warned about him, IK mother hired a PI to find information on him.

IMO He isn't going to use his own legit ID to take off to Australia with her, given her family were suss of him already. He was in Australia for months doing god knows what but it would have been something illegal, so he wouldn't be using his birth name of WC.


Also I kept going back to the youngest son of Maria, DD. He uses the last name David, even though his father was dead by the time he was born AND FD also used the name David.

Why would AH be using Wouters if the others didn't??? It can only be to use it in fraudulent activities.

He was 3 yrs older than them and MC only married AW in 1950.

Diane deH on the stand - "....his family in Belgium were MC AND WILLY WOUTERS... AH NO.. ANDRE WOUTERS I MEAN. HE HAD 2 COUSINS Fredy "Wouters I guess" and Desiree " David or Wouters" .

Willy Coppenolle / David and Willy David Coppenolle - this is AH. The cousin of MC boys.

JMO