Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #23

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

It's like this new snippet re the Tasmanian Passport that was found at a market.

I know that little town of Evandale very well. Have family there. It's a very historical State Tasmania.

For those following the recent podcast drop, I dont subscribe so have to wait, but this is what they are talking about .

@Lord Peter Flimsy brings it all back to someone else we know

And it also brings up some names that I have been interested in, that leads me back to the deH children. Yep, about time some facts were forthcoming to the public by this new podcast instead of discussing coffee food and pilot announcements

Hello MdeH and DdeH

Your father likes to stay within the confines of NSW for his playmates doesn't he, as he gathers information

Why do I know that V name…
And yes Evandale is gorgeous.
I bet it was bought from the old guy there who sells coins and medals

 

[mishy66]

Why do I know that V name…
And yes Evandale is gorgeous.
I bet it was bought from the old guy there who sells coins and medals

Vereker family owned Mottynsden Lodge in Burwash where AH and Dags lived

My interest though is closer to home and that of Richard Vereker, which is all back here on this thread

Post in thread 'Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #18' Australia - Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #18

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Vereker family owned Mottynsden Lodge in Burwash where AH and Dags lived

My interest though is closer to home and that of Richard Vereker, which is all back here on this thread

Post in thread 'Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #18' Australia - Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #18

Oh I remember this now ! God so many names that I now forget them go back and boom I remember the rabbit holes.

This is what I miss about this case..

 

[mishy66]

It is worth mentioning: Itzig is a place in/piece of Hesperange (town). In Hesperange lives a photographer named L. Blum. So imo he needs to be ruled out to be the blum on the doorbell…

You're on the money with Laurent here @Carovb5

I think its hilarious that WS plays such a huge role in this case but never gets mentioned

Especially when J herself is on here along with the "supersleuths"

 

[mishy66]

Wait. What ??

"Everyone has a right to privacy" ?


Except when they don't ; if you are in the countries walking down leads

IF you don't want people chasing leads down DONT post carrots on the page.

It's pretty easy.


Just post up the facts ONCE you have the full picture.


Thanks CarovB for finding this for all of us. And them

 

[mishy66]

Oh I remember this now ! God so many names that I now forget them go back and boom I remember the rabbit holes.

This is what I miss about this case..

Well it wouldn't be such a Warren if the facts were clearly posted up once known by the ship.

Years of carrots have led to so many of these holes.

Time to start plugging some of them up

 

[L_B]

This might help make it clearer.

Many people have tried to help and gathered really relevant information that paints a more accurate picture. But it goes against what the ship navigation tells

Haven't really kept up with this case/thread, I tried to listen to the podcast but agree with others sentiments about it having no proper structure/audio quality etc.

I would love to get this "accurate picture", happy for someone to DM it to me if they don't want to post it here?

 

[Nnbee]

You will have to go back to the beginning to get a snippet.

But the real truth wasn't revealed on the podcast nor with SL.
The team from TLV even told one investigator "thanks but we will take it from here". Neither party wanted the truth of what happened re TSS and MB to be told.

re the allegations of MB being inappropriate with a student? i thought that was thrown away?

 

[Nnbee]

when they say “ be careful in the comments” , why is that? to prevent a mistrial down the lines?

 

[Nnbee]

It’s a pity they didn’t stay longer in each location. It seems quite rushed. I would have stayed atleast a week in Lux if i had a chance to meet with MC. You can’t bond with someone straight away. Spend a few days… build a rapport. Visit some nursing homes where people are his age group! Hand out fliers in them. Letterbox drop. Leave fliers in locations people of that age go. Someone in that small town would remember them.

 

[Eyespywithmylittleeye]

Wait. What ??

"Everyone has a right to privacy" ?


Except when they don't ; if you are in the countries walking down leads

IF you don't want people chasing leads down DONT post carrots on the page.

It's pretty easy.


Just post up the facts ONCE you have the full picture.


Thanks CarovB for finding this for all of us. And them

Unless you live in a foreign country then you can turn up uninvited and just knock on the door lol

Privacy only when it suits

 

[Carovb5]

Wait. What ??

"Everyone has a right to privacy" ?


Except when they don't ; if you are in the countries walking down leads

IF you don't want people chasing leads down DONT post carrots on the page.

It's pretty easy.


Just post up the facts ONCE you have the full picture.


Thanks CarovB for finding this for all of us. And them

You’re very welcome i stopped following their socials & podcast. Feel free to share their games in the future, i’m all in from this side of the world!

 

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I must say I’m uncomfortable with the personal attacks on Sally and Joni. I cannot imagine what it is like to be the daughter of a missing woman and who has been frustrated and cast off by the police. Someone who has lived through an inquest which has identified a suspect of interest and then watched the entire case dwindle to nothing. I cannot imagine what it’s like to be the best friend and confidante of this woman. They are doing everything they can to raise awareness for Marion’s case so it doesn’t fade away. That may mean fundraising, speaking, or personal tours. It may mean lousy podcasts or merch or raffles. I do not have to participate in those activities.

As for the podcast, Sally’s trip to Europe taught her many lessons. It also teaches the listener how hellish being the family member of a missing person is. I am empathetic to her situation, and I am grateful she has family, friends, and helpers who are also empathetic. I didn’t have to listen to it, but I chose to.

As for feeling there is gatekeeping regarding leads or information, I can’t speak to that. But I would never ever believe I know more than someone entrenched in a case or the daughter who has just been though an inquest.

Finally, I am uncomfortable with all the **wink, wink** **hint, hint** regarding past posts or information. If someone on here has information they’d like to share or deems important but knows is unacceptable, then I believe they should invite other followers to DM them.

If professional private investigators have been turned away, I’d appreciate specifics. I would also assume there may be reasons why the PI didn’t suit the family. Reasons that are not public. Again, I would assume the family knows better than I.

Just wanted to air my opinions. and of course, these are entirely my opinions and I respect those of others.

 

[mishy66]

re the allegations of MB being inappropriate with a student? i thought that was thrown away?

Nothing to do with that. I dont think anyone mentioned students.

I believe Marion was set up with that false information by her work colleague and it was what set off a chain of events.

 

[mishy66]

when they say “ be careful in the comments” , why is that? to prevent a mistrial down the lines?

Honestly can't see any trial happening.
He is on his last legs.
The Coroner left it in the hands of authorities and we all know how they handle / handled the case.

More like somene suing SL and the media team for defamation

 

[mishy66]

It’s a pity they didn’t stay longer in each location. It seems quite rushed. I would have stayed atleast a week in Lux if i had a chance to meet with MC. You can’t bond with someone straight away. Spend a few days… build a rapport. Visit some nursing homes where people are his age group! Hand out fliers in them. Letterbox drop. Leave fliers in locations people of that age go. Someone in that small town would remember them.

I find it extraordinary that they would presume MC would even talk to them in the first place?

I have my own views on her involvement with this case but to presume that MC would happily sit down with them and chat to them after what happened last time in Luxembourg when they turned up on a strangers door ( "everyone has a right to privacy " except when they don't if you are J right?)

MC is a very smart and cunning woman and I have no doubt she reads everything online, including the comment made on the MB FB page after the inquest, the "MC knows a lot more than she has let on" , so why would they think MC is going to respond to them?????

That sort of attitude is very much RB's. I'm important so answer me.

Can't have it both ways.

It's like all of the continual cloak and dagger stuff that's been going on for yrs.

If you find a situation that is relevant to the case and have the answers then post it up as a whole on the page.

If you don't have all the answers, wait until you do, then post the FULL story.

Cant be posting up carrots then saying , don't go looking because people do!

I think its a ploy.
Feed the hands that hunt down information, then take the food away and say stop looking now we have the answers.

A very manipulative way of producing information flow.

It's like the White House situation that was found right here, the IK information that was found here then announced on the page, the doorplate information found here, the brother of RB found here, the connections to other people involved found here, so so many other finds .

There have been SO many people that have helped this case who are ON this WS site.

Not everyone here is in the best interest of Marion though. I'm 100% certain RB own family are on here.

I'm convinced that the "suoersleuths" are on here, in fact they are, most of us know that as we see their monikers, J and SL themselves are on here time to time. J makes it her business to connect sleuths here with their IRL names.
It all a game.

Only it isn't . It's a real life missing persons case that has been overshadowed by game playing.

I dont think there is a person here, aside from the deH family, that doesn't support SL in her quest to find what happened to her mum Marion.

That very reason is why we are all here. Still invested, still hunting down answers, still sharing what is found, still supporting the common goal of where is Marion Barter decades after she went missing.

There is absolutely no refuting the fact that people are in support of SL and her quest to find answers.

We all embrace the finds and rejoice when there are resolutions.

But the case has one hundred arms. It's not a typical missing persons case and it only makes it more difficult when the ships captain plays games with the public.

After a 10?? Episode podcast, what resolutions are there for the public to be satisfied with???

I was even appalled about the comment given in relation to the TLV team trying to help ER instead of MB.
My god isn't it ALL connected to MB case ??
Can't have one without the other ! It's ALL about his connection to women. And that comment as far as I'm concerned was appalling.

ER we all support you in this too. Don't think we don't. We want resolutions for you also!

 

[mishy66]

If professional private investigators have been turned away, I’d appreciate specifics. I would also assume there may be reasons why the PI didn’t suit the family. Reasons that are not public. Again, I would assume the family knows better than I.

I hear what you're saying in your post and understand where you're coming from.

But you yourself said previously that you don't sleuth and await information from the page and that's great. It's what the majority of the public do

But here is a site built for sleuthing and many people do just that. Some are just people who have no background in sourcing information and piece together bits and pieces , some are die hard sleuths from yrs of research and some are investigators.

It takes a village.

This case is like no other. One hundred arms to many many fingers in many pies.

Hundreds of pies.


Not ONE person can claim to hold all the cards.

Dozens and Dozens of people have helped some areas of this case, from all of the world. Piecing together information that hasn't even made it up to the surface yet.

No one here is going to foreclose any investigator who has been told no thank you. That's unethical. That's something you're either going to have to believe for yourself or not.
It doesn't change the fact that it's happened to at least three.

No one is assuming anyone knows better than family.
That's the point. Some family don't want investigators airing dirty laundry.

I think @HinterlandObserver summed it up earlier for all of these missing persons cases.

There is so much about this case that goes deeper than a doorbell or a white house.

All people here are saying is get to the facts. Stop playing games with the public and start filling in those holes that they created.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

It seems this thread has turned into nothing much lately other than bashing the missing person's daughter. This is NOT victim friendly and not in the spirit of Websleuths.

This thread is closed for review, attempted cleanup when we have time, and may or may not reopen.