Found Deceased Australia - Melissa Caddick, 49, Sydney, NSW, 12 Nov 2020 #8

[drsleuth]

Kate McClymont

https://twitter.com/Kate_McClymont

"The MP [missing person] has most likely committed suicide," was the view of both the lead detective Michael Foscholo and homicide detective Steve Morgan, who was brought in to review the investigation into the disappearance of fraudster Melissa Caddick, #caddickinquest

 

[drsleuth]

Jamie McKinnell

@jamie86
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The Melissa Caddick inquest has heard notes from a Homicide Squad consultant mentioned a proposed experiment involving pig carcasses being cast into the ocean. They would be fitted with tracking devices, and some with running shoes, to ascertain the behaviour of sharks.

The consultant, Detective Sergeant Steven Morgan, told the court he wasn't sure if that experiment ever took place.

 

[drsleuth]

‘I am very confident they weren’t real tears’: officer questions Anthony Koletti’s reaction to missing wife

An inquest into missing fraudster Melissa Caddick heard that her husband told police “everything she has done has always been legit.”

www.smh.com.au

Paraphrased:

AK said in his to the two officers who first went to his home ( on body worn video ) that he hadn't slept or eaten for 3 days & was worried about where his wife was
“She’s diligent, she’s like a robot,” Koletti told police. “Everything she has done has always been legit.”

On the body worn Riley is heard saying to AK
“I am a bit worried … your story seems to be chopping and changing … I need you to tell me everything and I need you to tell me the truth.”
Koletti expressed his eagerness to do whatever he could to find the “love of my life”.

AK told the police he hadn't left the house the previous days, when the police knew he had on several occasions
Riley was heard in the video asking Koletti if he’d been anywhere the previous night. “Not that I know of,” Koletti replied.

Koletti’s reply was “another inconsistency in a long line of them”, Riley told the inquest.

Video shows AK walking police thru the house. MC's office was locked. When asked why he replied “you can’t be too careful these days”

On their way to the cellar AK states “and she hasn’t even taken any grog”.

Riley said at the end of the day that he didn't believe believe that Koletti had harmed his wife and there were no signs of a struggle inside the house.


Riley believed AK “may have known where she was and was withholding information”.

The detective agreed with the suggestion put by Koletti’s solicitor, Judy Swan, that her client “was confused and traumatised”.
Swan also suggested that Koletti was crying as the police left.
“I am very confident they weren’t real tears,” replied Riley.

 

[drsleuth]

Caddick inquest told of police plan to throw dead pigs wearing running shoes into ocean

Police investigating the disappearance of Sydney fraudster Melissa Caddick considered an experiment involving dead pigs fitted with tracking devices — and some wearing running shoes — being thrown into the ocean, an inquest hears.

www.abc.net.au

Melissa Caddick inquest hears of NSW Police ocean experiment idea using dead pigs wearing running shoes​

An inquest into her suspected death has heard from Detective Sergeant Steven Morgan, who acted as a Homicide Squad consultant for six months until September 2021.

Documents detailing his activities in relation to the investigation contain reference to the proposed experiment.

The court heard it was to involve several pig carcasses being cast into the ocean after being fitted with tracking devices.

Some were to also be fitted with running shoes.

One of the aims was to ascertain the behaviour of sharks, the inquest was told.

Asked whether that experiment ever took place, Detective Sergeant Morgan replied: "I don't know."

He said it was commissioned by forensics.

"I imagine one of the managers there may be able to assist."

 

[drsleuth]

Anthony Koletti welcomes police with a smile as officer expresses concern over wife’s welfare

A coronial inquest has heard that while Koletti was evasive in answers about Melissa Caddick’s disappearance, senior police did not believe he killed her.

www.theage.com.au

Anthony Koletti welcomes police with a smile as officer expresses concern over wife’s welfare​

Homicide detective Sergeant Steven Morgan told the inquest into Caddick’s disappearance and presumed death that in March 2021 he was asked to review the police investigation.
Although Morgan’s notes recorded that an unspecified officer-in-charge held the view “that Koletti had likely killed the deceased,” the homicide detective was not able to identify who that officer was.

Morgan said that at the conclusion of his review he did not believe Caddick’s husband Anthony Koletti had killed or harmed his wife.
The inquest heard that Morgan believed that “the MP [Missing Person] is likely to be deceased and at her own hand.”

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Atkins also said that it was difficult getting an accurate timeline of events from Koletti as he gave three different times as to when he last saw his wife. These versions were that he last seen his wife at midnight, 4am or just before 6am.

“There was a lot of confusion,” Atkins said.



more in link that I think is not paywalled ( including a beaming AK opening the door to police )

 

[drsleuth]

Kate McClymont

@Kate_McClymont
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Melissa Caddick's brother Adam Grimley and mother Barb have asked the coroner if they can give evidence as they feel "their voice isn't being heard" at the inquest into the presumed death of Caddick. #Caddickinquest

Six days after she disappeared, Melissa Caddick's brother Adam and husband Anthony hired Search Dogs Sydney Inc - " a specialist team with specially trained canines to find “live” and “deceased” humans," according to their website.

 

[drsleuth]

Melissa Caddick case cop speaks with shark expert

www.9news.com.au

Det Sgt Morgan was canvassing theories into what might have happened and spoke with "a shark expert" from NSW Department of Primary Industries.
"(He had) some doubt regarding the length of time that a foot had been in the water," Det Sgt Morgan said on Wednesday.
He was also told of some concerns regarding the initial police search that no CCTV footage had been collected or adequately reviewed promptly, nor had a land search been co-ordinated in the early stages.

 

[drsleuth]

Husband 'may have helped' Caddick hide

Melissa Caddick's husband may have assisted the fraudster hide initially but the police inspector overseeing the investigation did not think he had harmed her.

www.aapnews.com.au

Husband 'may have helped' Caddick hide​

By Greta Stonehouse
September 15, 2022

An investigator overseeing the disappearance of Melissa Caddick said her husband's reporting raised alarm bells and he could have assisted the fraudster in hiding.

The other dominant theory eastern suburbs crime manager Detective Inspector Gretchen Atkins was also told by the officer in charge was that Ms Caddick had self-harmed due to the pending investigation into her million-dollar fraud.

"(Detective Sergeant Michael Kyneur's) number one theory was she had voluntarily gone missing and was potentially being assisted by (Anthony) Koletti," she said.

"Does that amount to an offence on Mr Koletti’s part?" Jason Downing SC, counsel assisting the coroner, asked Det Insp Atkins on Thursday.

"(I) had not turned my mind to that," she said.

 

[drsleuth]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/melissa-caddicks-husband-greeted-officers-with-smile-hours-after-reporting-wife-missing/news-story/57859e26f2a4b6a1b929ca5c29c03888

Inspector Atkins told the court that in the early stages of the investigation, police were working off the theories that Ms Caddick had taken her own life or was on the run of her own volition.

Counsel assisting the coroner Jason Downing questioned whether a crime scene investigation should have been carried out sooner.

“I’m very comfortable with what we did, the searches that were conducted,” Inspector Atkins said.

“Later, there was a forensic search undertaken, but I was happy with the progress we were making.”

Video in link of body worn video

 

[drsleuth]

Jamie McKinnell

UPDATE: Melissa Caddick inquest hears request by fraudster's mother and brother to give evidence

Surprise twist at Caddick inquest as mother and brother ask to give evidence to 'have their voice heard'

The mother and brother of Sydney fraudster Melissa Caddick want to give evidence at an inquest into her suspected death because they feel their "voice isn't being heard", a court hears.

www.abc.net.au

The mother and brother of Sydney fraudster Melissa Caddick want to give evidence at an inquest into her suspected death because they feel their "voice isn't being heard", a court has been told.

On the fourth day of an inquest into Ms Caddick's suspected death, Judy Swan, the lawyer representing her husband Anthony Koletti, told the court Ms Caddick's mother Barbara Grimley and brother Adam Grimley wish to give evidence.

"They have expressed their concern that their voice isn't being heard," Ms Swan said.

She explained the request was a result of the contents of Monday's opening address.

"They are concerned about the nuances made by Counsel Assisting in relation to their son-in-law and their brother-in-law," Ms Swan said.

They are seeking to give evidence about Mr Koletti and Ms Caddick, the court heard.

Ms Swan was not acting for the Grimleys but said she was passing on their concerns.

Counsel Assisting Jason Downing SC said the material in the opening had been available in a brief of evidence for some months, giving parties an opportunity to be aware of it.

Deputy State Coroner Elizabeth Ryan set a timetable for material from the Grimleys to be produced for consideration.

 

[Mr Murphy]

This is an interview with police on 24 November 2020 - 12 days after disappearance.
When asks how she knows Mr Little - Response "They WERE close friends" 2:10 second mark.... If I thought the person was missing and alive I would have said "They ARE close friends"...

https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...g/news-story/57859e26f2a4b6a1b929ca5c29c03888

 

[drsleuth]

This is an interview with police on 24 November 2020 - 12 days after disappearance.
When asks how she knows Mr Little - Response "They WERE close friends" 2:10 second mark.... If I thought the person was missing and alive I would have said "They ARE close friends"...

https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...g/news-story/57859e26f2a4b6a1b929ca5c29c03888

All his interactions, words & body language is just so "off" to me, how the cops didn't see huge red flags is outstanding ( and they had "largely" ruled out a homicide by the end of the week of Nov 16th already )

Surprise twist at Caddick inquest as mother and brother ask to give evidence to 'have their voice heard'

The mother and brother of Sydney fraudster Melissa Caddick want to give evidence at an inquest into her suspected death because they feel their "voice isn't being heard", a court hears.

www.abc.net.au

Detective Inspector Gretchen Atkins, the crime manager of Eastern Suburbs police, told the inquest establishing a timeline was "very important" and her colleagues had difficulty getting consistent information from Mr Koletti.

Counsel Assisting Jason Downing SC, put to her that by November 16 there were suspicious circumstances, including because of the ASIC raid, the alleged large-scale fraud, frozen bank accounts, and discrepancies in Mr Koletti's accounts.

Detective Inspector Atkins insisted police held "serious concerns", but said they did not reach the threshold of "suspicious circumstances".

By the end of that week beginning November 16, the possibility of a homicide was "largely off the table", she told the court.

 

[drsleuth]

Caddick family want voice heard at inquest - Australian Associated Press

The mother and brother of Melissa Caddick would like to give evidence at her inquest as they don't believe their voice is being adequately heard.

www.aap.com.au

Melissa Caddick’s mother and brother have requested their voice be heard at her inquest and would like to give evidence about the relationship with her husband.


Anthony Koletti’s solicitor Judy Swan on Thursday told the NSW Coroners Court four days after the inquest began that Barbara and Adam Grimley “expressed a concern their voice has not been heard”.


“They are concerned about the nuances made … in relation to their son-in-law and their brother-in-law and they would like to give evidence about the relationship between Mr Koletti and Ms Caddick,” Ms Swan said.


Deputy State Coroner Elizabeth Ryan said she would consider the matter at a later date.


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Det Insp Atkins said she met Mr Koletti at the police station before the media stand-up and found it hard to follow his train of thought and that he appeared “scatty”.

“It was based on that … that I wanted a second search done at the house,” Det Insp Atkins said.

Another more thorough inspection was conducted at the multi-storey home but nothing suspicious was located.

“I would not have been surprised if we had been able to locate Ms Caddick, if she’d walked into the police station,” she said.

“At the same time if we’d unfortunately found her body at the bottom of the cliff I would not have been surprised.

“From where I sat it was 50-50 both ways.”

Counsel assisting Jason Downing SC asked the witness if she was surprised to find out NSW police only sought the 92-page affidavit of Isabella Allen – ASIC’s lead investigator in Ms Caddick’s fraud – on February 1, 2021.

“Yes,” she responded.

 

[Via Marple]

All his interactions, words & body language is just so "off" to me, how the cops didn't see huge red flags is outstanding ( and they had "largely" ruled out a homicide by the end of the week of Nov 16th already )

Surprise twist at Caddick inquest as mother and brother ask to give evidence to 'have their voice heard'

The mother and brother of Sydney fraudster Melissa Caddick want to give evidence at an inquest into her suspected death because they feel their "voice isn't being heard", a court hears.

www.abc.net.au

Detective Inspector Gretchen Atkins, the crime manager of Eastern Suburbs police, told the inquest establishing a timeline was "very important" and her colleagues had difficulty getting consistent information from Mr Koletti.

Counsel Assisting Jason Downing SC, put to her that by November 16 there were suspicious circumstances, including because of the ASIC raid, the alleged large-scale fraud, frozen bank accounts, and discrepancies in Mr Koletti's accounts.

Detective Inspector Atkins insisted police held "serious concerns", but said they did not reach the threshold of "suspicious circumstances".

By the end of that week beginning November 16, the possibility of a homicide was "largely off the table", she told the court.

what can be said about this type of body language?

(From the news.com.au link)

 

[JBowie]

what can be said about this type of body language?View attachment 366358
(From the news.com.au link)

IMO, it's in keeping with his flippant attitude when interviewed at the police station. IMO AK is a fruitcake.

 

[drsleuth]

The look on the police officer in his video interview at the police station says it all really

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/melissa-caddicks-husband-greeted-officers-with-smile-hours-after-reporting-wife-missing/news-story/57859e26f2a4b6a1b929ca5c29c03888

 

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[IminSyd]

The video interviews with AK are so interesting to watch. He seems a little oblivious to what is happening and the seriousness. I don’t get the sense from him in these interviews that he thinks MC is dead at that point. Perhaps she was hiding out for a while, with his knowledge, and then as things really heated up she couldn’t see a way out and ended her own life some time later.
I can kind of see why the police drew early conclusions that AK had not killed MC. He seems very open, but at times struggles to stick to a cohesive or logical train of thought.

 

[bearbear]

what can be said about this type of body language?View attachment 366358
(From the news.com.au link)

haha! happy to have a visitor?

 

[Kemug]

Remember the song "Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly . . "? Seems pigs can do both