Deceased/Not Found AUSTRALIA - Ms Lesley Trotter, 78, Homicide, Brisbane, 28 Mar 2023

[SLouTh]

I was impressed with Police proactively searching for dashcam footage by stopping vehicles and pedestrians on Maryvale Street yesterday … but I think they also need to do this again next Tuesday when school goes back …. As the 28th wasn’t part of the Easter School Holiday Break ….. IMO
As it may result in extra footage ??

 

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[Marg944]

I found a very interesting explanation of how the landfill is managed at Rochdale Landfill site, by Brisbane City Council.

Brisbane landfill​

Brisbane City Council has one world-class, engineered landfill site at Rochedale, where waste from Brisbane residents is buried if it can't be recycled or reused. Waste is taken from the disposal area at each resource recovery centre to the landfill site. This site is also where Council’s Towards Zero Waste Education Centre is located and it is a major generator of green energy.

About the landfill​

The Brisbane Landfill began operating in 1993 as a world-class facility with landfill gas recovery, leachate collection and treatment, plus a comprehensive range of environmental monitoring.
Waste from ‘the pit' in the disposal area at each resource recovery centre (previously known as transfer stations or rubbish tips) is compacted before being transferred in large semi-trailer trucks to the landfill site. The semi-trailers are weighed before emptying the waste onto the landfill ‘tipping face’, where it is evenly distributed, compacted and buried in engineered landfill ‘cells’.
Each cell has a liner of thick clay just under a metre thick as well as a 1.5mm layer of high density polyethylene plastic. This liner creates a barrier between the waste and the natural environment to prevent contamination of the surrounding area. A drop of liquid would take 300 years to pass through this liner.
Once a cell is full, it is capped with clay similar to the base of the landfill and then topped with a thick layer of soil and, finally, resurfaced with turf, bushes and trees. As each cell is filled up, the waste is delivered to a new cell within the landfill site.

Brisbane landfill

Council has one world-class, engineered landfill site at Rochedale, where waste from Brisbane residents is buried if it can't be recycled or reused. Waste is taken from the disposal area at each resource recovery centre to the landfill site.

www.brisbane.qld.gov.au

Obviously that is why the need for consulting engineers to help direct them to the best search area, as mentioned in this article by 7 News:-

Their loads were compressed before being taken to six dump sites across Rochedale and Swanbank.

“The location of that rubbish at each of those sites has now been quarantined. In fact, it was quarantined over the weekend,” Supt Massingham said.

“We are currently planning an extensive search of both those sites to recover the remains of the person we believe to be Lesley Trotter.”

Supt Massingham indicated the search would be complex and difficult, with excavation needed at Rochedale.

Once engineers finalise the scale of area to comb, police will commence a “piece-by-piece” operation.

Foul play? Search for woman to take grim turn after wheelie bin revelations

Detectives are treating the disappearance of Lesley Trotter, 78, as a possible homicide.

7news.com.au

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I imagine they would also be on the lookout for any possible weapon to test for Lesleys blood, and hopefully any fingerprints of the perp.

 

[SLouTh]

I imagine they would also be on the lookout for any possible weapon to test for Lesleys blood, and hopefully any fingerprints of the perp.

If a weapon was used …. One punch can kill …

Whatever happened must have been fairly quiet, IMO, or more people would have heard a disturbance and possibly witnessed the horrible event …

Just thinking how noise would travel at that early hour …

IMO

 

[SLouTh]

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In the news report they say they expect the search at the landfill sites to last 2 weeks … I think that might be wishful thinking…. IMO
Unless they have amazing manpower numbers available ??

 

[SLouTh]

Police are hopeful they might have more answers into how Trotter died by the end of the week, as specialists comb dumps at Swanbank and Rochedale

Rubbish tips scoured for signs of missing Brisbane retired teacher

Police believe the body of Lesley Trotter was dumped in a wheelie bin, before it was taken to either Rochedale or Swanbank rubbish facilities.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

 

[SLouTh]

This update states weeks of searching the land fill …

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This clip is the first time I have seen an “arrest” mentioned …. No arrest this morning or this afternoon….

 

[TootsieFootsie]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-qld/retired-qps-search-and-rescue-coordinator-jim-whitehead-weighs-in-on-landfill-search-for-lesley-trotters-body/news-story/732d06c13ba7489f4fef47271fdb40c5?amp

Retired QPS search and rescue co-ordinator Jim Whitehead weighs in on landfill search for Lesley Trotter’s body​

Retired Queensland Police Search and Rescue officer Jim Whitehead was involved in multiple searches of landfill in his 34-year career, saying it was an extremely tough and “labour intensive” job.

But Mr Whitehead said it was “definitely possible” to find the 78-year-old’s body.

“It’s very time consuming, but it’s possible,” Mr Whitehead said.

“Pathologists should be able to determine what injuries she sustained as a result of being compacted, and what may have caused her death. It’s absolutely possible.”

Mr Whitehead, Queensland’s former top search and rescue officer, said landfill searches generally involved between 12 to 20 officers at one time sifting through rubbish in a line, piece by piece.

“The search would be by hand, every piece of rubbish would be removed, every piece turned over, things looked through and unrolled,” he said.

“It’s very time consuming, you’re usually searching in a 30m x 30m area.”
Mr Whitehead said they would usually work through the waste layer by layer, which could take weeks.

He said the biggest factor working against search crews was decomposition, as it had been more than two weeks since Ms Trotter’s body had been collected.

“It has to be done by eye, it cannot be done by a machine,” he said.

Police are expected to begin searching in coming days.

 

[SouthAussie]

This clip is the first time I have seen an “arrest” mentioned …. No arrest this morning or this afternoon….

If the journos know something that we don't know (very possible imo), they must be chomping at the bit to be the first to publish it.

 

[SLouTh]

If the journos know something that we don't know (very possible imo), they must be chomping at the bit to be the first to publish it.

Yes agree totally SA …. They were also the first to mention the Nudgee Waste Transfer Station ……

Might be nothing or it could be a hint….

 

[SouthAussie]

I guess what concerns me (besides the horrific nature of this potential crime) is when DI Massingham was asked if any attempts had been made to access Lesley's accounts, and he wouldn't answer that question.

As per this link (paraphrased) .... DI Massingham was asked (I think by a journo) if there had been any attempts to access Lesley's bank accounts, and he said he "could not comment".

The article is dated yesterday. You would think by now the police would have checked for that information, so either they do not yet have an answer, or they do have an answer and they don't want to provide that answer - perhaps it would interfere with their investigation.

Seems to me that bank account activity is one of the first things they usually check when a person goes missing. To see if it can offer any clues.

‘It’s a sad story’: Retired teacher’s body picked up in rubbish bins

Police are now searching rubbish dumps for the remains of Lesley Trotter, 78.

www.smh.com.au

 

[SLouTh]

I guess what concerns me (besides the horrific nature of this potential crime) is when DI Massingham was asked if any attempts had been made to access Lesley's accounts, and he wouldn't answer that question.

As per this link (paraphrased) .... DI Massingham was asked (I think by a journo) if there had been any attempts to access Lesley's bank accounts, and he said he "could not comment".

The article is dated yesterday. You would think by now the police would have checked for that information, so either they do not yet have an answer, or they do have an answer and they don't want to provide that answer - perhaps it would interfere with their investigation.

Seems to me that bank account activity is one of the first things they usually check when a person goes missing. To see if it can offer any clues.

‘It’s a sad story’: Retired teacher’s body picked up in rubbish bins

Police are now searching rubbish dumps for the remains of Lesley Trotter, 78.

www.smh.com.au

Yes one of the big four L’s….. The four motives for murder….

Lust, Love, Loathing, and Loot ….

https://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/sites/crimeandjustice.org.uk/files/09627250608553401.pdf

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I guess what concerns me (besides the horrific nature of this potential crime) is when DI Massingham was asked if any attempts had been made to access Lesley's accounts, and he wouldn't answer that question.

That concerned me too.
Why not just say there was no activity on her bank accounts. They don't usually say they can't comment.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Inside search for body woman who was 'dumped in a wheelie bin'

Police believe Lesley Trotter, a 78-year-old retired teacher, from Brisbane's west, died sometime between midnight on March 27 and 12pm the following day.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Police will comb through rubbish sites that may hold the remains of an elderly woman after detectives revealed they believe she was dumped in a wheelie bin.

Police have also seized the rubbish truck that carried the 78-year-old's remains.

Police say they have not had any suspects and have limited CCTV from the street where the bins were taken from.

 

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[TootsieFootsie]

I just happened to notice how many views this thread has had.
12 thousand!

I wonder if some are bots ?