Found Deceased Australia - Ruben Scott, 2, Cape York, Far North Queensland, 4 June 2019

[SouthAussie]

I noticed in an article today that indigenous rangers are involved in the search for Ruben. I was very glad to read that, as they are well equipped to assist ... with their great knowledge of the habitat, their uncanny intuition of how and when a croc may strike, and their keen eyes for noticing the smallest of clues.


Seven helicopters, including mustering helicopters, were also involved in the search, along with 20 neighbours, ringers from nearby stations, and Indigenous rangers from Kowanyama.
Mum of missing Cape York toddler says she's 'trying to hold herself together'

 

[SouthAussie]

COUNSELLING FOR MISSING BOY’S FAMILY IN TIME OF CRISIS
Specialist counsellors will be taken into a remote Cape York cattle station to support the family and friends searching for a little boy who has been missing for three days.
No Cookies | The Cairns Post
7 June 2019

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[zecats]

Due to my father's employment, we had the same choice when we immigrated to Australia many years ago. Canada or Australia.
We have lived in several areas of Australia and have never had a problem with the wildlife. The wildlife is beautiful, interesting, and interested. I live among kangaroos, koalas, and the most beautiful birds.
Australia is a HUGE country. As big as the USA. There is really only high danger in the "top end" where there are crocs. The top end is a very remote area, extremely low population ..... tourists are advised and advised and advised if they go there. It is not generally Aussies who are taken.

I just read an SM article stating the family had only lived there since January. Wonder where they were living before? Perhaps somewhere less remote as you describe. Any chance they were unaware of the dangers? I’m so sad for them. This whole thing is beyond horrific.

 

[they'll get you]

I wonder how mom is able to be so precise with the time she last saw him? 5:44 p.m., (not 5:45)

Last seen at 5:44 pm.
Sunset there is at 6:07 pm.
IMO that’s cutting it a bit fine to bring a toddler inside.

Normanton Sunrise / Sunset Times, QLD 4890 - WillyWeather

 

[SouthAussie]

I just read an SM article stating the family had only lived there since January. Wonder where they were living before? Perhaps somewhere less remote as you describe. Any chance they were unaware of the dangers? I’m so sad for them. This whole thing is beyond horrific.

It is possible that they may not have realised how quickly and suddenly a croc can move. Crocs appear to be sleepy things who walk slowly. But they can move and snap in a second if they want to.

I do believe they would have been warned and warned of the dangers. There are typically signs all over the place, and many learned people who will advise of the dangers.

I wonder if Ruben was left alone, or perhaps was left with another person who was busy and distractedly working on a vehicle in the garage.

 

[zecats]

It is possible that they may not have realised how quickly and suddenly a croc can move. Crocs appear to be sleepy things who walk slowly. But they can move and snap in a second if they want to.

I do believe they would have been warned and warned of the dangers. There are typically signs all over the place, and many learned people who will advise of the dangers.

I wonder if Ruben was left alone, or perhaps was left with another person who was busy and distractedly working on a vehicle in the garage.

Good thought that he was in the garage with another adult. Yet the mom says she last saw him at 5:44pm, and never mentions anyone else seeing him as well. Maybe she was there too and went in to prepare dinner.

I didn't honestly believe that would be the case, that they were unaware of the dangers. I've seen those signs myself at beachy areas along rivers, where it looks enticing enough to swim, warning not to swim. Stories were shared of Aussies who ignored the signs and paid a dear price.

But you're right. Maybe unaware of how quickly a croc can react and pull its prey back into the water. I do remember the crocs appearing as if they were dreamily resting along the riverbank, oblivious to us, as we cruised along one river. In fact, (oh yes this is true), some other tourists on the boat with us believed the crocs had been staged by the tour company and were inflatables....that's how still the crocs were. Still..silly tourists.

 

[they'll get you]

I noticed in an article today that indigenous rangers are involved in the search for Ruben. I was very glad to read that, as they are well equipped to assist ... with their great knowledge of the habitat, their uncanny intuition of how and when a croc may strike, and their keen eyes for noticing the smallest of clues.


Seven helicopters, including mustering helicopters, were also involved in the search, along with 20 neighbours, ringers from nearby stations, and Indigenous rangers from Kowanyama.
Mum of missing Cape York toddler says she's 'trying to hold herself together'

SA I imagine the indigenous trackers will be able to see if Ruben’s & the pup’s foot prints were in the mud or a croc had come up the embankment recently and/or if there were drag marks into the mud.

 

[they'll get you]

It is possible that they may not have realised how quickly and suddenly a croc can move. Crocs appear to be sleepy things who walk slowly. But they can move and snap in a second if they want to.

I do believe they would have been warned and warned of the dangers. There are typically signs all over the place, and many learned people who will advise of the dangers.

I wonder if Ruben was left alone, or perhaps was left with another person who was busy and distractedly working on a vehicle in the garage.

Most crocodiles can achieve speeds of around 12 to 14 kph for short periods.

Crocodilian Biology Database - FAQ - How fast can a crocodile run?

 

[SouthAussie]

SA I imagine the indigenous trackers will be able to see if Ruben’s & the pup’s foot prints were in the mud or a croc had come up the embankment recently and/or if there were drag marks into the mud.

Yes. They will see many things that we otherwise may not pick up on. If Ruben sat down anywhere, if forest leaves had been moved by little feet, if a particular rock is a good place to lay down to sleep under, if the slightest indentation of Ruben's little, light tracks suddenly stop anywhere ....

 

[SouthAussie]

I didn't honestly believe that would be the case, that they were unaware of the dangers. I've seen those signs myself at beachy areas along rivers, where it looks enticing enough to swim, warning not to swim. Stories were shared of Aussies who ignored the signs and paid a dear price.

Yes, authorities in relevant areas are generally pretty prompt with the warnings. Even signs at northern Queensland marinas and beaches warning not to go into the water ....

DO NOT SWIM: Crocodile sightings at local beach

 

[they'll get you]

Yes. They will see many things that we otherwise may not pick up on. If Ruben sat down anywhere, if forest leaves had been moved by little feet, if a particular rock is a good place to lay down to sleep under, if the slightest indentation of Ruben's little, light tracks suddenly stop anywhere ....

Team the indigenous trackers and maybe some cadaver dogs and they should find exactly where Ruben last walked.

I love your thinking SA and I’m hoping the little guy is found safe and well today.

 

[zecats]

Yes, authorities in relevant areas are generally pretty prompt with the warnings. Even signs at northern Queensland marinas and beaches warning not to go into the water ....

DO NOT SWIM: Crocodile sightings at local beach

Saltwater crocs, I presume. I actually remember seeing a rather large one in captivity (Cassius) on a visit to Green Island. It seems they can be found in estuaries and also upriver, inland from the sea as well. You're right about Northern Queensland - there are some unique dangers in that area.


Named Cassius, this nearly 18-foot-long (5.48 meters) Australian saltwater crocodile (Crocodylus porosus) was crowned the world's largest captive croc by Guinness World Records on Jan. 1, 2011. The animal lives at Marineland Melanesia on Green Island, off the coast of Cairns in Queensland. The more than 100-year-old beast has quite the appetite, with Marineland keepers feeding him chicken, fish and pork, according to the park's website.

Cassius, who tips the scales at more than a ton (nearly 1,000 kilograms), lost his record for about a minute in late 2011. That's when Lolong, a saltwater crocodile caught in the Bunawan province of the Philippines, measured in at a whopping 20.24 feet (6.17 meters)
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[tmar]

I thought I read somewhere that the puppy never went with him,I will try to find a link.

If there is a link, that the puppy never went with Ruben, I wouldn't think Ruben would voluntarily leave his puppy.
Has someone removed Ruben????
UNLESS Ruben chased puppy, got lost, and Puppy returned.
MOO.

 

[Gardener1850]

The search resumed at first light on Friday for the third day, and police have said they won't give up.

However, authorities are expected to change their focus in the search on Friday, scaling back the aerial component from seven helicopters to just one.

And police divers, who arrived at the remote station on Thursday, will begin scouring waterways on the property on Friday.

The terrain around the station - which police have described as rugged and challenging - features waterways which are known to be habitats for crocodiles.

The cattle station backs onto a lagoon and the Mitchell River, east of Kowanyama, on the western side of Cape York Peninsula.

Natasha Scott, Ruben's mother, has described her son as a "very fun and outgoing little boy" who is "very gentle", and has thanked those involved in the massive search effort.

https://7news.com.au/news/disaster-...sing-toddler-as-they-enter-day-three-c-153774

 

[Gardener1850]

Grave concerns for toddler missing near croc-infested waters

 

[Gardener1850]

Ruben's mother Natasha Scott described the toddler as 'the greatest person ever'.

She told 7News Ruben is a 'very fun and outgoing little boy with a very sarcastic sense of humour'.
'He's very gentle and always loves to do hands-on things. He loves his cars, trucks and anything with wheels on them.'

'Life's complete with you and your smile,' she previously wrote alongside a picture of the boy in July.

Helicopters and heat-seeking drones have been aiding the search, with search crews scouring bushland on foot, horseback and motorbikes.

The cattle station backs onto a lagoon and the Mitchell River, east of Kowanyama, on the western side of Cape York Peninsula. It is known crocodile habitat.

Ms Scott said she last saw her son about 5.45pm on Tuesday.

In a social media post, she said she was doing her best to hold herself together.

Hopes fade for missing two-year-old boy Ruben who wandered off near crocodile infested waters | Daily Mail Online

 

[SouthAussie]

The search resumed at first light on Friday for the third day, and police have said they won't give up.

However, authorities are expected to change their focus in the search on Friday, scaling back the aerial component from seven helicopters to just one.

And police divers, who arrived at the remote station on Thursday, will begin scouring waterways on the property on Friday.

The terrain around the station - which police have described as rugged and challenging - features waterways which are known to be habitats for crocodiles.

The cattle station backs onto a lagoon and the Mitchell River, east of Kowanyama, on the western side of Cape York Peninsula.

Natasha Scott, Ruben's mother, has described her son as a "very fun and outgoing little boy" who is "very gentle", and has thanked those involved in the massive search effort.

https://7news.com.au/news/disaster-...sing-toddler-as-they-enter-day-three-c-153774

I wonder if that is the garage in the background, with a vehicle parked in it, in the photo of the searchers.

If the garage was open, as it is in the pic, it would have been easy for Ruben to wander away ... and could have been a while before that was noticed by anyone else in the vicinity.

 

[SouthAussie]

RSBM .....

'He's very gentle and always loves to do hands-on things. He loves his cars, trucks and anything with wheels on them.'

Well, that could explain why Ruben was in the garage. If he loved vehicles so much, if someone was working in there.

I can see why specialist counsellors have been sent to the station. It sounds as if there could be far more than one distraught person who is trying to cope with this huge and scary event.

 

[Gardener1850]

I wonder if that is the garage in the background, with a vehicle parked in it, in the photo of the searchers.

If the garage was open, as it is in the pic, it would have been easy for Ruben to wander away ... and could have been a while before that was noticed by anyone else in the vicinity.

Good eye. Here's that pic bigger (click to enlarge):

It looks like the same background as in this picture of Ruby on a motorcycle (or quad?):

Hopes fade for missing two-year-old boy Ruben who wandered off near crocodile infested waters | Daily Mail Online

 

[they'll get you]

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Good eye. Here's that pic bigger (click to enlarge):

It looks like the same background as in this picture of Ruby on a motorcycle (or quad?):

Hopes fade for missing two-year-old boy Ruben who wandered off near crocodile infested waters | Daily Mail Online

This appears to be a different shed.



Mum of missing Cape York toddler says she's 'trying to hold herself together'