• #841
Lynn had been grounded anyway. He was stung by one of his own bees during covid lockdown, had an allergic reaction that put his heart out of rhythm, and was then considered unfit to fly. So he was given simulation training duties by Jetstar - until they canned him.

I don't think he would have a pilot's license at the moment, having been convicted of murder. (fitness of character)

 
  • #842
I was thinking that maybe the thought was that he might steal a plane.

That he was able to fly even though he lost his license.
Ie make a run for it.

Not my thinking. Someone would notice a missing plane.
Someone would likely hear and see it in the sky. Radar or by sight.
 
  • #843
In March last year, the Victorian government passed tougher bail laws. Greg Lynn will need to convince the judge that there are "exceptional circumstances" that should justify him being granted bail.

"The Tough Bail Laws will jolt the system. They will create new offences, change what decision-makers consider, and create the toughest bail test ever for the worst offences. The combination of these changes will make Victoria’s bail laws the toughest in Australia."

"Toughest bail laws ever"

"A person accused of an indictable offence faces ‘tests’ to be granted bail. The tests get tougher as the offences get worse. A tough test applies for serious offences: someone accused of a Schedule 2 offence like manslaughter must show ‘compelling reasons’ to justify bail. Someone accused of a Schedule 1 offence like murder or aggravated carjacking must prove even tougher ‘exceptional circumstances
"

 
  • #844
In March last year, the Victorian government passed tougher bail laws. Greg Lynn will need to convince the judge that there are "exceptional circumstances" that should justify him being granted bail.

"The Tough Bail Laws will jolt the system. They will create new offences, change what decision-makers consider, and create the toughest bail test ever for the worst offences. The combination of these changes will make Victoria’s bail laws the toughest in Australia."

"Toughest bail laws ever"


"A person accused of an indictable offence faces ‘tests’ to be granted bail. The tests get tougher as the offences get worse. A tough test applies for serious offences: someone accused of a Schedule 2 offence like manslaughter must show ‘compelling reasons’ to justify bail. Someone accused of a Schedule 1 offence like murder or aggravated carjacking must prove even tougher ‘exceptional circumstances"


Simon Gittany got bail (for murder) for exceptional circumstances. The exceptional circumstances were that he was needed by his defence team to form his defence. :rolleyes:


"Crown prosecutor Mark Tedeschi QC had first pressed for bail to be revoked on Thursday afternoon.
Trying again on Friday, Mr Tedeschi said the exceptional circumstances under which Gittany's bail had originally been granted no longer existed.

But defence barrister Philip Strickland SC said the Crown's applications were premature and Gittany was still needed to help them prepare their case."

 
  • #845
Simon Gittany got bail (for murder) for exceptional circumstances. The exceptional circumstances were that he was needed by his defence team to form his defence. :rolleyes:


"Crown prosecutor Mark Tedeschi QC had first pressed for bail to be revoked on Thursday afternoon.
Trying again on Friday, Mr Tedeschi said the exceptional circumstances under which Gittany's bail had originally been granted no longer existed.

But defence barrister Philip Strickland SC said the Crown's applications were premature and Gittany was still needed to help them prepare their case."


Sure but that ridiculous, and later reversed, decision was in 2012, thirteen years prior to the tougher new bail laws:

Tue 12 Nov 2013: Justice Lucy McCallum revoked Gittany's bail saying it is exceptional to have an accused in a murder trial on bail.

 
  • #846
Sure but that ridiculous, and later reversed, decision was in 2012, thirteen years prior to the tougher new bail laws:

Tue 12 Nov 2013: Justice Lucy McCallum revoked Gittany's bail saying it is exceptional to have an accused in a murder trial on bail.


We were all shocked that such an exception was allowed. Justice McCallum did not revoke the bail until the final stages of the murder trial.

This was in NSW. But I have never forgotten it. What a crazy reason for an exceptional circumstance.

And look at Raelene Polymiadis (here in SA), her current bail is due to the special circumstance that 'the jail can't administer her diabetes medication properly'. She is charged with murdering both of her parents with insulin.
They gave her home detention, and she has been caught out and about at the shops and other places. Her bail has been challenged, but is still in place. :rolleyes:

 
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  • #847
Lynn murdered 2 people and has already got off 1 murder charge. I don’t think he will get off the 2nd charge and I don’t think he will be granted bail.

If he does, our legal system is a farce.
 
  • #848
Wow, first time hearing about this case since I'm not from Aus. Sad what a can of worms this is, sad he provided so much protection to himself by destroying all the evidence and burning their bodies. 😞
 
  • #849

Delayed until next Thursday
 
  • #850

7News

Greg Lynn's bail decision delayed a week​


Greg Lynn, the accused high country killer and former Jetstar pilot, has appeared at Melbourne Supreme Court seeking bail while awaiting a retrial over the murder of Carol Clay.

Three Court of Appeal judges previously ruled he suffered a substantial miscarriage of justice. 3

The Supreme Court judge has delayed the bail decision until Thursday next week, with the court hearing Lynn would live with his son if released into the community.
 
  • #851
Lynn had been grounded anyway. He was stung by one of his own bees during covid lockdown, had an allergic reaction that put his heart out of rhythm, and was then considered unfit to fly. So he was given simulation training duties by Jetstar - until they canned him.

I don't think he would have a pilot's license at the moment, having been convicted of murder. (fitness of character)

No License SA. Also bee’s sound like GBC’s caterpillar worries.
 
  • #852

Accused killer Greg Lynn seeks bail to live with son after prison assault​


Lynn's wife and son Geordie were in court together.
Lynn was not able to stay with his wife. Maybe his staying there was not allowed ?

Son put up his house and savings as equity.

May be behind a paywall. Posting it here for those who subscribe.
 
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  • #853

Accused killer Greg Lynn seeks bail to live with son after prison assault​


Lynn's wife and son Geordie were in court together.
Lynn was not able to stay with his wife. Maybe his staying there was not allowed.

Son put up his house and savings as equity.

May be behind a paywall. Posting it here for those who subscribe.

So, Dermott Dann's exceptional circumstances for Lynn are (paraphrased from your linked article):

Lyn had been assaulted while in custody
He had been held in protection
That the media reporting had been excessive
He suffered from a heart condition
His time in custody has been difficult

Dann added that it is not fair that Lynn is sitting in custody waiting for this damage to fade away. :rolleyes:
 
  • #854
Reading this makes me think he will most likely deny bail.



Daily Mail

Supreme Court judge David Beach indicated he would not be making a decision on the bail application on Thursday, instead taking a week to consider the matter, with Lynn to remain in custody during that time.

He said the Supreme Court could accommodate his trial as early as July this year.

'The court contemplates the trial will occur this year, not next year,' he said, adding that a judge, not him, is ready to hear it from July 13.
 
  • #855
  • #856

The Guardian

Accused killer Greg Lynn seeks bail to live with son as lawyers apply for permanent stay in case​

A former airline pilot accused of killing a camper should be released on bail to live with his son ahead of an application for a permanent stay in the case, a Victorian court has heard.

Former Jetstar pilot Gregory Lynn appeared in the Victorian supreme court on Thursday as his lawyers argued that he should be freed from custody for the first time in almost three years.

Dermot Dann KC, for Lynn, argued that it would be unfair to his client for a trial to be heard any time earlier than 2028, and that he should be released on bail in the meantime.
 

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