Australia Australia - Sabrina Glassop, 46, Celena Bridge, 28, & Jessica Gaudie, 16, 1998-1999

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Something about this case isn't sitting right with me.......from everything I've now read from the MSM articles posted on thread, there was not one shred of evidence linking Derek Sam to the murder he was convicted of......JMO
 
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Something about this case isn't sitting right with me.......from everything I've now read from the MSM articles posted on thread, there was not one shred of evidence linking Derek Sam to the murder he was convicted of......JMO

Likewise Isisrising. imo
 
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Has anyone ever heard of an indigenous serial killer?

I myself haven't, and when I Googled it only comes up with indigenous victims of white serial killers.......just wondered if there are any documented cases that any WSer's know of?

If Sam is what they say he is, he's a very rare case.......:twocents:
 
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Looked at objectively, the following 'facts' don't add up to implicating someone as a murderer. Where are the facts? Sounds like hearsay and innuendo IMO. According to this MSM article, Poole didn't even say that Sam boasted of having a date with Ms Glassop specifically:

Sam's Piabun colleague, John Poole, later told an inquest that Sam had made lewd comments about Ms Glassop and boasted of doing some work at a teacher's house and having a date with one.

Mr Poole told the inquest that a few days after Ms Glassop's disappearance, Sam had acted strangely during a horse ride, taking different routes through the bush, and avoiding an area known as Spike's Hut.

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/scd-behind-one-of-the-coasts-biggest-mysteries/314396/

I don't know.....it worries me if statements like these are what convicted this guy in the first place. Who knows what Poole's relationship with Sam was like? Is he a reliable and objective witness? And did he say anything more specific that really does suggest some guilt? This just reads like speculation and gossip to me......
 
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Derek Sam was convicted based on a strong circumstantial case, including his own behaviour after the alleged crime. There were telephone conversations which were taped by the police between his ex and himself, after the crime, which were not admissible in court. If they had been allowed, they would have been even more damning.
 
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Queensland schoolgirl killer set to be charged with two cold case murders

Convicted killer Derek Sam could soon be charged by Queensland police with the deaths of two other women, Sabrina Glassop and Celena Bridge, nearly two decades after they disappeared.
Sam is currently serving a life sentence for the murder of 16-year-old Nambour schoolgirl Jessica Gaudie in 1999.
Police believe Sam sexually assaulted and strangled all three women, and are now preparing a brief of evidence for the Director of Public Prosecutions.

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...ith-two-cold-case-murders#PfK7KZ1sGiV0iIcD.99
 
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This case needs more coverage. It simply iant good enough that Jessica still isnt found. I know that people know what Derek did with them.
 
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Something about this case isn't sitting right with me.......from everything I've now read from the MSM articles posted on thread, there was not one shred of evidence linking Derek Sam to the murder he was convicted of......JMO
Yes that is correct. No evidence or Dna ever and I am not at all saying that he is innocent, bur he still claims his innocence to this very day.
 
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Looked at objectively, the following 'facts' don't add up to implicating someone as a murderer. Where are the facts? Sounds like hearsay and innuendo IMO. According to this MSM article, Poole didn't even say that Sam boasted of having a date with Ms Glassop specifically:



http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/scd-behind-one-of-the-coasts-biggest-mysteries/314396/

I don't know.....it worries me if statements like these are what convicted this guy in the first place. Who knows what Poole's relationship with Sam was like? Is he a reliable and objective witness? And did he say anything more specific that really does suggest some guilt? This just reads like speculation and gossip to me......
I know of others who were seen at Anne Glassops vehicle. I have a description of their vehicle and descriptions of them. They were white men.
 
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Sunshine Coast murder clue - 15th Aug 2009
Read more: http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/sunshine-coast-murder-clue/351848/


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I have spoken to Paul.
 
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Queensland Council for Civil Liberties vice-president and lawyer Terry O'Gorman said 2025 was a good time to review the mechanics of the legislation.

"There is some justification for this law because surviving family members of a murder victim are entitled to the closure of recovering remains and having a funeral," he said.

"But the council considers the way the legislation is drafted is far too unfair to prisoners who, as a matter of fact, cannot assist.

"Potential miscarriages of justice can be repeated over and over
 
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Yes that is correct. No evidence or Dna ever and I am not at all saying that he is innocent, bur he still claims his innocence to this very day.
Derek was seen taking Jessica and he didn't initially deny it. There are recordings of Derek speaking with his Ex wife Mia, she asked Derek if he murdered the baby sitter, he didn't deny it.

After reading through this case thoroughly he clearly had help, someone else helped him cleanup and threatened Derek to never speak of their involvement or else...
I think the police dropped the ball on this, went for the quick conviction, I wouldn't be surprised if the retired Detectives that worked on this case know others were involved but couldn't prove it.
 

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