Found Deceased Australia - Samuel Thompson, 22, Albion, Qld, 7 March 2017 *Arrests* #3

[possumheart]

Sam's fidgety behaviour on CCTV at his apartment building could be attributed to him thinking he was being watched imo

 

[Marples]

Hi welcome great point !


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Lots of people take up weights for back injuries. Being a bench champion would not necessarily be ultra taxing on the back. It's also been alleged earlier on AD sold steroids, so if he also took them, this would assist in lifting heavier. It's also noted that each comp has its own definitions so being the king of the bench may mean you lifted a massive weight for one rep if that's all that's required. It was posted earlier on that AD had a bulging disc in his back. This is an injury that can have sudden onset and render you unable to walk until the flare up subsides. I'd imagine an injury such as that would be possibly too at risk of a flare up for someone in a combat situation, especially at the start of a career? Unless you have surgery, it's an injury you can only manage, not repair.

Source: I have a similar back injury and was told to take up lifting reasonably heavy weights to manage it and did so.


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[MsAnais]

Has anyone said :welcome: Renegade?

Absolutely!!

Welcome Renegade!! Glad to have you here!!

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[Twinkletoes11]

Sam's fidgety behaviour on CCTV at his apartment building could be attributed to him thinking he was being watched imo

I dont see him acting weird is this at all. He always fixes himself and makes his clothes neat. That's normal behavior

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[symbah]

Sam's fidgety behaviour on CCTV at his apartment building could be attributed to him thinking he was being watched imo

True possum, he seems to be checking himself, momentarily hesitating before going down to the garage.

 

[MsAnais]

Welcome Twinkletoes too!! :seeya:

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[symbah]

I dont see him acting weird is this at all. He always fixes himself and makes his clothes neat. That's normal behavior

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Does he?

And welcome Twinkletoes11

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[possumheart]

I dont see him acting weird is this at all. He always fixes himself and makes his clothes neat. That's normal behavior

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I agree that we could be trying too hard to read his body language. I'm still getting myself together in my car on the way to work. It would look weird on film.

 

[Twinkletoes11]

Does he?

And welcome Twinkletoes11

:Welcome1:

Thanks and yeah he's done this from school days hes always doing something with his hands

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[Twinkletoes11]

I agree that we could be trying too hard to read his body language. I'm still getting myself together in my car on the way to work. It would look weird on film.

Haha me too. I'd hate to be on camera id look stupid lol

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[possumheart]

Thanks and yeah he's done this from school days hes always doing something with his hands

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I am so sorry for your loss Twinkletoes

 

[Marples]

And it is very curious, because he was apparently bench pressing right before he went to Syria, and after he was discharged from Army training. With a bad back? If his back was 'fixed' why not re-enlist in the Army, I wonder?

Thanks for that thought, Meeks. I don't believe we have considered that before, and the timing of everything.



The 22-year-old appeared happy, indulging in a passion for hotted-up cars, socialising with his mates at pub sessions and being deeply committed to the sport of weightlifting, having previously successfully represented Australia at the Oceania Powerlifting and Bench Press Championships in 2013.

So what then made him suddenly decide to travel thousands of kilometres across the world and risk his life joining a Kurdish "People's "Protection Unit" known as the YPG of Rojava engaged in a deadly battle with Islamic State terrorists in Syria?

http://www.smh.com.au/national/kurd...join-the-australian-army-20151210-glkqk0.html

He may have been training in the hope of stabilizing his injury sufficiently to undertake basic training for the ADF again?

He may have re-applied and been declined on the basis of the injury and then decided if he couldn't join the ADF he'd find another way to go to Syria and fight?

If he was very passionate about what was happening in Syria and wanted to fight, YPG may have been how he felt he could best contribute to the fight over there.

People join YPG for very varied reasons. For some it's about the ideology. For others it's about fighting against ISIS. For others it's about convenience: YPG is one of the few forces that foreigners can join without too many problems at either end. People also join with varied levels of experience from none where you learn on the job to ex enlisted men. So as someone with some basic military training AD may have been quite attractive to them.

Most foreigners seem to stay a few months, based on what MSM articles. I did read somewhere they like it to be a few months at least due to the logistics of getting people in and out of there.

I think AD was in Syria mid to late 2015, so quite a while after his was at the Oceania's.


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[Twinkletoes11]

I am so sorry for your loss Twinkletoes

Thank you. I feel for his family and close friends. It's one thing for someone to die. It's another to die in a accident. But to be killed at the hands of someone else is unimaginable pain.

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[Marples]

Is anyone ever going to find out more on the guy who was arrested first? The guy whose house the murder occured at? The guy buying acid and a tomahawk? Literally the only information released on AD in this case is his car was caught following ST's and yet hes all this thread talks about. I was hoping locals would have known or heard more about RB too. Rather than focusing on the facts and deciphering truth in rumor everyone is giving their two cents on AD's state of mind based on a photo...

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There's not a lot about RB in MSM or SM. AD is just a bit more high profile, I guess. People have tried sleuthing RB but there's not much for the taking it seems. A SoundCloud account, a defunct FB and a private Insta was all I've seen mentioned by posters so far.

Any locals who have information who aren't verified insiders may be reluctant to share information without links about RB or ST after some of the responses they've received when doing so previously.




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[possumheart]

Thank you. I feel for his family and close friends. It's one thing for someone to die. It's another to die in a accident. But to be killed at the hands of someone else is unimaginable pain.

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It would be incredibly hard to process. That is why this forum does it's utmost to be victim friendly, because people who come here relate at some level, and the collective aim is to seek justice

 

[Marples]

Did gaining this new knowledge of crimemap.info take anyone else into a one hour spiral of looking up every house they've ever lived in, every house family and friends currently live in, and every house in the immediate vicinity? Or just me? [emoji87][emoji137]

Yes! I've used it before but it reinvigorated my interest. I emerged bleary eyed an hour later needing a beverage. It's a goldmine!


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[Marples]

He also witnessed a person dying being blown up by a landmine [emoji17]


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A person who was initially going to go with AD to get food, but then they decided one would stay and one would go. AD left for food and RH died: I'd imagine that might trigger survivor guilt in some folks? Even if it's not his fault in reality?


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[possumheart]

A person who was initially going to go with AD to get food, but then they decided one would stay and one would go. AD left for food and RH died: I'd imagine that might trigger survivor guilt in some folks? Even if it's not his fault in reality?


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Especially if 'brotherhood' was the attraction of combat

 

[Marples]

He had no right to be there in the first place, what he did was illegal. Perhaps what i read is true that he failed the military psyche testing? If that is the case there was a very good reason to refuse him to get into the military.
Seeing someone else die in front of you would not cause someone to commit murder. I would imagine it would have the opposite effect. JMO

There is some grey area as to the legality of fighting with YPG. Jamie Williams had his charges dropped and no charges have yet been filed against AD or another Australian YPG fighter. Williams lawyer asserted the YPG is a government force, which it's not illegal for Australians to fight with. The AFP were ordered to pay Williams' costs. So I wouldn't necessarily say it's illegal. It would depend on if they were declared foreign fighters and if they were, I'd hazard a guess they would have been charged by now. They've both been back over a year I believe.


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[Marples]

Agreed, however, its gone beyond both speculation and rumor.
I would bet that if a poll were taken majority
would say:
AD was the one to murder ST
AD is suffering from some sort of mental break be it ptsd or ice withdrawal
AD was involved in robbery
AD spread rumors about murder (this one is the most interesting to me because if AD were the muscle behind the murder why would he do this?)

All of the above are rumors, not fact, but everyones "speculative" theories involve them. It isnt a good thing when people especially a group of people formulate their ideas based on hearsay. When this occurs it makes it very difficult to accept and understand the truth if it goes against ones already made up mind. I enjoy WS because we are encouraged and typically regulated to stick to the facts. This isnt tge case in tbis thread. Now although, locals typically have some amazing insight I feel its been overstepped in this case and taken way too far.

The facts we have so far would actually suggest that RB was the sole perp in the murder and AD was called after the fact for help. This is moo but I think its smart to keep an open mind and wait until more information is released.

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I'd be in the minority on that. For a few reasons I think AD is not the main event here.


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