Found Deceased Australia - Samuel Thompson, 22, Albion, Qld, 7 March 2017 *Arrests* #4

[MsAnais]

And secondly, about the Jamie Gao case again - as the other similarities are striking.

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Murdered Sydney student Jamie Gao was reportedly in 'secret talks with police' in the weeks before he was killed.
The 20-year-old had allegedly been called to give evidence before the Australian Crime Commission, the country's peak intelligence-gathering agency.

When asked why Mr Gao was recently questioned by ACC investigators at its Sydney headquarters, the commission said it had 'nothing to add', The Daily Telegraph claims.

Federal police have publicly denied claims that Mr Gao, who is thought to have been caught up in a Hong Kong-based Asian organised crime group, was acting as an informant when he delivered $3 million of methamphetamine to former detectives Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara.

Mr Gao had reportedly told his close friends about the hearing but the commission has denied these claims.

On Saturday, it was revealed federal police were watching over murdered student Jamie Gao for a staggering three years before his death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ime-Commission-shot-death-sour-drug-deal.html

IMO JMO MOO

Wow. That last sentence (that you bolded) is VERY interesting, <modsnip>

 

[SouthAussie]

Wow. That last sentence (that you bolded) is VERY interesting, <modsnip>

Yes, it is all very interesting. Considering the things we have speculated about.

- Was Sam being watched, and that is why police seemed to know he was missing before anyone else really knew?
- Was Sam doing some very big drug deals, considering the amount of money he seemed to be spending on cars/holidays/high-end items?
- Was Sam killed because he was in over his head?
- Why did the police seem to indicate there were unsavoury characters involved?
- Why did police mobilise such a big force very quickly, to search for a missing lad?
- Why is such a top cop immediately involved in a missing person's case?
- Why did police immediately fear foul play?
- Were police scrambling to find Sam quickly because they feared the absolute worst?
- Do police feel somewhat responsible?
- Were police in danger of losing a key star chambers witness?

:thinking:

IMO JMO MOO

 

[Justamum]

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[SouthAussie]

For those who are wondering about Detective Inspector Tim Trezise's qualificartions and primary areas of police work, here are some previous examples.

And now he is involved in Sam's case .... right from the get-go. Notice the bolded-by-me info in these below articles that show similarity, perhaps, to info from Sam's case?

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Gold Coast CIB Detective Inspector Tim Trezise said on Monday that police had seized 158kg of cannabis, more than 500 ecstasy tablets, 40g of amphetamines and smaller quantities of cocaine and heroin during Operation Juliet Stilton.
Mr Trezise said the hydroponic shop - a legitimate business for gardeners and other business people to buy goods - was a perfect cover.

"We've discovered over the past six months this syndicate has been bringing drugs from interstate on a fairly regular basis.
"At least once every 14 days they bring in as much as 100 pounds over the border into the Gold Coast area and they distribute to various contacts they have within their drug network."
Mr Trezise said police had already sized a number of cars allegedly involved in trafficking drugs, including a red Ferrari ....

https://www.southburnetttimes.com.au/news/ferrari-seized-drug-raids/1447050/
9th Jul 2012

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An alleged drug dealer who gambled $1 million at Jupiters Casino in the past year was one of 19 arrested this morning as police smashed two drug syndicates.
Detective Inspector Tim Trezise, from Gold Coast Police District CIB, said pills believed to be ecstasy, cannabis and guns were seized in a series of raids were launched this morning.

"They are what we would call lifestyle drug dealers, they do it to have an attractive and luxurious lifestyle in terms of motor vehicles and in terms of cash assets and that's probably the best way to characterise this particular type of person we're seeing in this investigation," he said.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...-million-at-casino-police-20120605-1zto1.html
JUNE 5 2012

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Detective Inspector Tim Trezise from the Gold Coast CIB said his officers, acting on information from New South Wales police, found a Pontiac Trans Am and a Harley-Davidson motorcycle hidden inside.

"They (the drugs) were secreted in a PVC pipe, and it was good work by investigating police,'' he said.
"Once they chanced upon the drugs that were in plain view they searched further and found the drugs that were more cleverly concealed.

He said the haul is not connected to outlaw motorcycle gangs or other police operations in Sydney.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/po...18efbb7d8?sv=322d08bf2dc585c99fef29ea3f1159d0
July 14, 2009

IMO JMO MOO

 

[MsAnais]

SouthAussie....you are full of fabulous facts! :rockon:

(so many of the quotes you just posted seem like they could easily be applied to this case. JMO MOO IMHO)

 

[SouthAussie]

SouthAussie....you are full of fabulous facts! :rockon:

(so many of the quotes you just posted seem like they could easily be applied to this case. JMO MOO IMHO)

Thank you, Anais. Brain storming.

I just want to provide some interesting info for others to have a think about, and provide their feedback, theories, speculation, and ideas. Many minds make great work! We may figure this crime out yet.

IMO JMO MOO

 

[possumheart]

Thank you, Anais. Brain storming.

I just want to provide some interesting info for others to have a think about, and provide their feedback, theories, speculation, and ideas. Many minds make great work! We may figure this crime out yet.

IMO JMO MOO

I had noticed that google searches of that particular inspector pointed to particular types of operations :wink:

 

[symbah]

For those who are not aware .... Jamie was a 20-year old Uni student, reportedly pulling excellent grades .... but got in way over his head in the money-making side of drugs.







IMO JMO MOO

If the murder aspect of Sam's case is similar to that of Jamie Gao, as in a botched drug deal, I wonder how much trust Sam had in RB?

From you're link SouthAussie
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...n/news-story/68d002317b31e0353ed23813c68a6faa

“The money always comes to the drugs,” an experienced detective said. “The one with the drugs has the power; you would want to see the money before you show the gear — then you do the deal. But you never let the drugs out of your sight.”
It is clear Gao trusted who he was dealing with.

 

[possumheart]

If the murder aspect of Sam's case is similar to that of Jamie Gao, as in a botched drug deal, I wonder how much trust Sam had in RB?

From you're link SouthAussie
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...n/news-story/68d002317b31e0353ed23813c68a6faa

&#8220;The money always comes to the drugs,&#8221; an experienced detective said. &#8220;The one with the drugs has the power; you would want to see the money before you show the gear &#8212; then you do the deal. But you never let the drugs out of your sight.&#8221;
It is clear Gao trusted who he was dealing with.

The closest I have seen MSM to coming out and declaring 'trust' as such is in the top video on this page, where they say RB is a known associate of ST.
http://www.4kq.com.au/newsroom/grave-site-found-in-search-for-murdered-sam-thompson

 

[slinkyminx73]

If the murder aspect of Sam's case is similar to that of Jamie Gao, as in a botched drug deal, I wonder how much trust Sam had in RB?

From you're link SouthAussie
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...n/news-story/68d002317b31e0353ed23813c68a6faa

“The money always comes to the drugs,” an experienced detective said. “The one with the drugs has the power; you would want to see the money before you show the gear — then you do the deal. But you never let the drugs out of your sight.”
It is clear Gao trusted who he was dealing with.

So perhaps ST took a sample (his timeline between being seen on Sandgate road and arriving at RB) and they got frustrated?
They wanted the whole lot?

IMO MOO JMO


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[KG1]

Yes, it is all very interesting. Considering the things we have speculated about.

- Was Sam being watched, and that is why police seemed to know he was missing before anyone else really knew?
- Was Sam doing some very big drug deals, considering the amount of money he seemed to be spending on cars/holidays/high-end items?
- Was Sam killed because he was in over his head?
- Why did the police seem to indicate there were unsavoury characters involved?
- Why did police mobilise such a big force very quickly, to search for a missing lad?
- Why is such a top cop immediately involved in a missing person's case?
- Why did police immediately fear foul play?
- Were police scrambling to find Sam quickly because they feared the absolute worst?
- Do police feel somewhat responsible?
- Were police in danger of losing a key star chambers witness?

:thinking:

IMO JMO MOO

Was Sam working as an undercover officer?

 

[MsAnais]

Was Sam working as an undercover officer?

Now that is interesting KG1.

I'd been musing on him being an informer or being under surveillance but not thought about the possibility of him being an undercover cop.........

:thinking:

JMO MOO IMHO

 

[MsAnais]

Ole AD and RB sure better hope he wasn't......:doh:

 

[SouthAussie]

Was Sam working as an undercover officer?

That is a very good question KG1. :thinking:

On the pro side of that:

- it could be why Sam's funeral seemed to be not attended by media, perhaps many police officers/undercover officers there
- if so, there may still be a need to keep his profile low, if it may jeopardise ongoing operations or other police staff lives
- it could account for the massive police involvement, trying to find him so quickly
- it could account for Sam's purchases and travel, if he had a steady legitimate income

On the con side of that:

- would Sam have veiled mentions of drugs on his FB page
- would there have been a recent-ish home invasion
- would Sam have pics of his bare tooshy on his FB page, overlooking the peaks while in Europe?

Probably many more pros and cons I haven't yet thought about, too.

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[Horror]

WOW!!!!! Awesome sleuthing and ideas. So much to reread and think about thanks
Can I throw another twist what if Sam wasn't even in their sights much but one of the others were ? I'm not really swaying to this idea as the other two appear to be the users maybe but ... that would certainly receive a similar response I would imagine


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[MsAnais]

That is a very good question KG1. :thinking:

On the pro side of that:

- it could be why Sam's funeral seemed to be not attended by media, perhaps many police officers/undercover officers there
- if so, there may still be a need to keep his profile low, if it may jeopardise ongoing operations or other police staff lives
- it could account for the massive police involvement, trying to find him so quickly
- it could account for Sam's purchases and travel, if he had a steady legitimate income

On the con side of that:

- would Sam have veiled mentions of drugs on his FB page
- would there have been a recent-ish home invasion
- would Sam have pics of his bare tooshy on his FB page, overlooking the peaks while in Europe?

Probably many more pros and cons I haven't yet thought about, too.

IMO JMO MOO

I think a couple of those 'Cons' are possible if he was undercover.

They go fully under, in terms of identity.

If he was undercover, Sam would have to present as drug-taking, partying etc otherwise it would look suspicious. And the butt shot would fit with the role of 'brash young guy'.....

Just my thoughts. (but I don't know if I think he actually was.....hmmmmm)

JMO IMO IMHO

 

[MsAnais]

Wondering what the route to become an undercover cop is?

Does anyone go straight from the Academy into undercover work? Or do they have to start with the 'grunt' police work and move up?

After completion of General Duties tenure, officers can apply for vacancies in other locations or specialist units.

http://www.policerecruit.qld.gov.au/generalInfo/faq/Important-FAQS.htm

Is any of this undercover scenario feasible for a 22 year old?

Marples, you may well know this?

 

[Horror]

Wondering what the route to become an undercover cop is?

Does anyone go straight from the Academy into undercover work? Or do they have to start with the 'grunt' police work and move up?



Is any of this undercover scenario feasible for a 22 year old?

Marples, you may well know this?

I don't think they would be working in their own area though ? Due to being easily recognised.


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[SouthAussie]

I don't think they would be working in their own area though ? Due to being easily recognised.


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This is very true, Horror.

More likely to be working in their own area if they were an informant. Trust levels, people knowing them or knowing of them.

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[Marples]

So, I just checked with a mod to see if I could post this first link. It is an excerpt on a forum about the quantity of police involved in different types of police investigations. The opinion of someone in the know.

Obviously the quantity of police can increase, as the severity of the crime increases. Still, it seems like a lot of police involved in Sam's "missing person's case". Seems more like the amount of police that would be involved in a murder case ... perhaps even in a high profile murder case, due to the amount of teams involved.

It appears to me that Sam's case was being handled as a Major Investigation, right from the get-go.




Especially when you consider the likes of cases like Daniel O'Keeffe's case.



IMO JMO MOO

I agree with this whole heartedly. I've dated a number of policemen and they have said similar things over time.


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