GUILTY Australia - Sarah Cafferkey, 22, Melbourne, 9th Nov 2012, #1

[Curiousasacat]

Yes "it" can't really get to a computer to deactivate now can it.

Wonder if he'll even have one friend to help him out.
Wonder how many other crazies have messaged him?
I am sure he would have loved that everyone first assumed it was the ex C.
What would he have done in the apartment all day long hiding out.
I wonder if he was here?

Agreed about V, I think he took out his anger when SC rejected him.
Poor,sweet girl.
Even if she was there for other reasons we hinted at,it doesn't matter.
So sad that her path had to cross with a monster.

So with all this wondering I have to actually go and be productive before the day ends.

See you all later.

 

[Ladida]

thegoogler - good points. I have also wondered about TB. He seems to be AWOL.

The fact that AW has been reported as being 'traumatised' suggested to me that he may have been the unfortunate soul to discover the bin.

Did the yellow car belong to TB?

 

[Curiousasacat]

Hi all, I've been following this thread with interest but had to wait for my email address to be verified before I could post.

I might be on the wrong track here, but someone that seems to have been mentioned earlier in the thread, then stopped being mentioned, is TB.

What we seem to know is that two people rented the Point Cook house, but then it has come out that SH was not one of them. For instance, when he has been arrested, they have made a point of saying that SH is from Bacchus Marsh, not Point Cook.

We know that AW was one of the housemates because his parents have commented that he was traumatised, police have said that he is not involved. But, they haven't mentioned the other housemate, except when the Point Cook house was first mentioned as a crime scene, the police said that one of the residents was helping them with their inquiries. Immediately when SH's name came out, we assumed that it was he and AW lived there, but I don't think this is the case.

Here's my hunch.. TB is the other housemate. AW moved in 6 weeks ago.

I did some sleuthing and found that Linkedin will list a TB who worked at a large transportation company in Broadmeadows (Melbourne - North western). I thought it odd that the media seemed so intent on publishing that AW worked for Zorro Transport, but perhaps they were giving us a clue? Perhaps that's the link as to how AW came to be living with TB?


SH has allegedly committed the atrocity at his BM home, but has then had access to the Point Cook home, where it seems he disposed of the body. TB hasn't been mentioned.. Is it possible that police have TB but are yet to announce his involvement if any? Wondering if we'll see any accessory charges?

This is a good post and you are onto something in my opinion.

Also there was a picture just posted and removed but across the road from a Bacchus Marsh address was a car that was obviously a Tradies car.
There was MSM mention that neighbours across the road from the perp, a Tradesman had noticed unusual movements.

TB looks like someone who could be involved also IMO. They could have been good friends and SH crashed over a lot? But was he perhaps the person who gave the Tip off?

 

[LegallyBrunette]

thegoogler - good points. I have also wondered about TB. He seems to be AWOL.

The fact that AW has been reported as being 'traumatised' suggested to me that he may have been the unfortunate soul to discover the bin.

Did the yellow car belong to TB?

Hi googler -welcome

I was pondering over the housemate thing last night as well, MSM def said 'two men rented the house', and it seemed fairly clear that SH was not one of the two permanent tenants.

Also about the car, had thought it could be AW's car, and agree about poor bloke and the bin.

Not sure about that collage on SH FB - but had thought that TB was in one of the photos. Could be wrong.

Reading somewhere last night that SC car was seen over the weekend she disappeared and on Monday at (unnamed) location other than where it was eventually found on the Tuesday. Police prob know. Suggestion was that SH may have had help even if only to move car around.:twocents:

 

[LegallyBrunette]

This is a good post and you are onto something in my opinion.

Also there was a picture just posted and removed but across the road from a Bacchus Marsh address was a car that was obviously a Tradies car.
There was MSM mention that neighbours across the road from the perp, a Tradesman had noticed unusual movements.

TB looks like someone who could be involved also IMO. They could have been good friends and SH crashed over a lot? But was he perhaps the person who gave the Tip off?

I'm ambivalent over TB, can't quite mark his cards. He is the one with (as someone on here identified) the nz tribal tatts.
Yesterday someone posted a link to a pic of SH at work, pic from tradie on same job. Construction - concreting.
Going to be productive now too - and get strong coffee. Will be back of course

 

[wonderllama]

This has been very good with the quick turnaround, once again a bit of a success of social media down here.

I have a few friends who went to school with this girl and their group of friends have gone nuts getting the info out and about.

Not supposed to talk about his history now that he's been charged, but let's hope it is taken into consideration if he's found guilty...which he should be given he has admitted it apparently.

 

[J-Diggety]

I'm amazed how much personal info you can get from some people's FB.
I checked, unless she's moved,this person is listed as a 33 minute drive from where he was arrested.

Absolutely, its crazy.

No to merntion those who use their own names on multiple forums and social networking.

Its amazing how much info people leave on forum sites and the like.

 

[marlywings]

November 21, 2012

Hunter's neighbours today said that they had seen Ms Cafferkey's car at his unit several times in the past month.

A woman said she had seen Ms Cafferkey and other young girls visiting Hunter’s Bacchus Marsh property on many occasions.

"I just thought, what attracts you to go there? He's just an ugly old creep," the woman, who did not want to be named, said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...afferkeys-murder/story-fndo2dsc-1226520423114

 

[inkpink]

Seems they had been hanging out a bit........


Hunter's neighbours today said that they had seen Ms Cafferkey's car at his unit several times in the past month.

A woman said she had seen Ms Cafferkey and other young girls visiting Hunter’s Bacchus Marsh property on many occasions.

"I just thought, what attracts you to go there? He's just an ugly old creep," the woman, who did not want to be named, said.

Another neighbour spoke of their shock of talking to him after the murder took place.

"I was just chatting to him right out there (outside her door) last Monday, and that was afterward, after what he'd done, and he could just chat like a neighbour," they said.

Neighbour Morgan Kriss said she was shocked at Ms Cafferkey's murder, and said Hunter was a "nice", quiet person.

"When we found out we were really shocked because he was such a nice person, just goes to show you looks can be deceiving," she said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...afferkeys-murder/story-fnat79vb-1226520423114

 

[Mrs G Norris]

^^ OK I'm curious now too .. what did he use to attract these young females to him? Was it a 'party' scene or did he act like an older brother figure or something. Oh and FUSKIER does that mean he's entered a 'guilty' plea already, no lame excuses to try and take the charges down to manslaughter? Do we go straight to sentencing already. Unusual.

 

[thegoogler]

I'm ambivalent over TB, can't quite mark his cards. He is the one with (as someone on here identified) the nz tribal tatts.
Yesterday someone posted a link to a pic of SH at work, pic from tradie on same job. Construction - concreting.
Going to be productive now too - and get strong coffee. Will be back of course

Yeah I'm not entirely sure, but it seems very strange that once the media have established that SH was not a tenant at the Point Cook property, they have not cleared up who the 2nd tenant (not AW) is?

With the NZ tribal tatts thing. Couldn't say for sure that its the case with TB, but believe it or not, it's not uncommon for young guys around these parts (Australia in general) to get culturally significant tattoos that are for a cultural significance they have absolutely no link to! :waitasec:

I think the NZ/Islander/Tribal looking tatts thing seems to be a new extension of people getting things written in Chinese or Russian when they've never even been to those countries.

Anyhow, with TB, it seems that he was brought up in the area (Melbourne, Western Suburbs), but I did read somewhere amongst my searching that someone had posted about a link to Ararat (country VIC), and an involvement in small level dealing at an earlier stage. If this is the case, confirmed innocent housemate AW, was educated in Horsham, which is in the same region as Ararat, so that's a possibility of another link to TB. Speculative of course.

What does remain unclear in MSM, and something that seems really odd, is the link between SH and the Point Cook house. My money is on TB being the link.

Can't find any criminal history in my searches for him though and couldn't rule out the possibility that his (or whoever the mystery 2nd tenant of PC is) only involvement was being the poor soul that SH decided he would share knowledge of the horrible crime with and try to involve in the cover up.

 

[wonderllama]

I've read he used his little dogs to attract people online. He seems to have some small terriers etc.

 

[thegoogler]

SHAUN? :waitasec:

Hmm... Perhaps just a red herring?

That said, his docs in 05, 06 or whenever it was, had his name spelled the other way, ph not v. I recall some bodgy court docs when googling AB in the Jill Maher case, so perhaps we just don't have legal scribes who pay attention to detail in Victoria?

 

[thegoogler]

I've read he used his little dogs to attract people online. He seems to have some small terriers etc.

Yeah Chihuahua someone told me.

Re, why was she hanging out with him, or how did he attract these young ladies to befriend him, I don't know that it could 100% be put down to "it's the party thing" or anything along those lines. While that may come to be the case, I can say that when I was younger, I recall hanging around with some shady characters, but not thinking much of it at the time. Types that seemed absolutely fine 99% of the time, but you just had an inkling that if they lost it, through the drink or drugs or whatever, things would get ugly. It's only really when looking back on it, I think that it was a worry. At the time, you're getting along with these people, so there's no concern and of course when I was younger, I thought I was bulletproof I suppose. I guess what I'm saying is, that when I hear people say "how did she come to be hanging out with him", it doesn't seem too far fetched in my mind that it just came to be. Good natured people are inclined to be trusting.

 

[Fuskier]

^^ OK I'm curious now too .. what did he use to attract these young females to him? Was it a 'party' scene or did he act like an older brother figure or something. Oh and FUSKIER does that mean he's entered a 'guilty' plea already, no lame excuses to try and take the charges down to manslaughter? Do we go straight to sentencing already. Unusual.

In the interests of accuracy, I phoned the Registrar at Melbourne Magistrates Court. Apparently it may have been a mistake. The filing hearing for STEVEN JAMES HUNTER before Magistrate BAKOS happened at 9.30am today in Courtroom 1. The matter has been adjourned until 3rd March 2013. STEVEN JAMES HUNTER has been remanded until 27th March 2013. Source: Registrar, Melbourne Magistrates Court.
Prosecutor Luke Exell said the police brief of evidence would be served on Mr Hunter's solicitors by February next year. www.heraldsun.com.au

 

[ozazure]

If you read the pdf about his previous crime, he showed no reluctance to both confess and involve other people in the clean-up. Personally, if you get out of that situation alive you are lucky and did the smart thing. Someone not only capable of the crime but of such ****** judgement in keeping from getting caught, you are in grave danger in his presence. He will kill you no matter how obvious it is he did it. Dumber than your average naughty kid.

I don't think we will see any accessory charges for people dragged into this horror who then had to act in self-preservation. It doesn't appear police have met any resistance in tracking him down and apprehending him in such a short time. Either they didn't need his associates assistance or they got it.

 

[webbsterr]

I was just on T.B FB profile, And if you read his status and click on one of his pics he talks to/about a male S.C..On S.H maps when he tagged himself at stalking you in that tree..He makes reference to the same..they are all mutuals. That tag is not one he made up though, But one that he has found and alot of people use...

 

[SheepMan]

Look on google maps at 5 Simpson street Bacchus Marsh. Looks like a familiar car as at PC

I think a report quoted above said he lived in a flat on Simpson Street, the only flats I can see are on the corner of Simpson and Lord Street

 

[koalabear]

www.3AW.com.au. Yesterday Derryn Hinch's Drive program discussed parole decisions with Mr. Ari Freiberg from the Sentencing Advisory Council. It was revealed that Victoria Police Sexual Crimes Squad requested the Parole Board to revoke a certain offender's parole on two occasions this year. Police knew he was a significant risk. Victoria Police had their finger on the pulse, but the Parole Board did not. The offender subsequently attacked fatally. The Parole Board have much to answer for. IMO we concerned people should write to Victorian State MPs asking why the Parole Board did not listen to the requests from the Police and express outrage at parole board assessments of offenders' risk to women and girls. Why are they disregarding the rights of women and girls to be safe in the community? Are there 'women haters' on the parole board? My opinion only and fair comment.

That is horrific. What kind of guidelines do the parole board have to follow I wonder. If they are so convinced that these criminals are rehabilitated there should be consequences to the board if they reoffend. Who is in charge here? Does anyone take responsibility for making the wrong decision? Err on the side of caution I think. Who makes up the board? How long have they been in the job? What is their 'success' rate and more importantly what is their failure rate? Hmm off to do some investigating....

 

[Walk A Mile]

This concerns me. No-one has over 900 friends in real life. It can't be good to allow yourself open contact with so many people who you cannot truly know - too much room to let in the rubbish. I really worry about young girls and FB.

You can't know anything from that number. Most of the people I know on Facebook with >500 friends are game players - Farmville and the like. You "need" huge quantities of friends to get ahead in the games. Using privacy settings you can lock down your profile so they see as much or as little as you choose to let them see. The vast majority of people with many hundreds of Facebook friends will not be murdered by any of them.