GUILTY Australia - Sarah Cafferkey, 22, Melbourne, 9th Nov 2012, #1

[EveD]

This is what I keep coming back to, and I wish I could find the link that reports these sightings. If SH was moving the car around to throw LE off the scent, as this seems to indicate, there HAD to be an accomplice. I can't see him driving to various parts of Melbourne and then taking a cab back to his own car ... IMO, of course.

That was on the original Help! Find Sarah Cafferkey Facebook page, which is now gone. A guy saw the car, someone told him to tell the police. I am certain of it, because later someone commented that 'no that was in the wrong place...' something like that. So frustrating all these pages and links disappearing.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Does anybody find it rather odd that AW who holds a rather high position in a large company is associated with this lot?

not really, they may have had a common interest or it may have simply been that he was sharing the house and met them through that

people in high positions have all sorts of connections with different types of people.

you might be very shocked at what sort of events you might meet some LE officers.

there are many things bubbling beneath the surface of the suburbs, it would suprise and shock many people and much will remain hidden from plain sight until something happens that brings it into the public eye.

 

[marlywings]

POINT Cook residents stood united to mourn the loss of Sarah Cafferkey, while two men arrested over her murder were released from custody.

At least 150 community members held a minute's silence for Ms Cafferkey, whose body was discovered in a Point Cook property on Saturday.

At 7.30pm sharp we released 11 doves as a symbol of releasing Sarah's spirit."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...-over-her-murder/story-fnat79vb-1226522265704

 

[hollythecat]

That was on the original Help! Find Sarah Cafferkey Facebook page, which is now gone. A guy saw the car, someone told him to tell the police. I am certain of it, because later someone commented that 'no that was in the wrong place...' something like that. So frustrating all these pages and links disappearing.

Ah yes, of course! It is frustrating with half the FB profiles down now, at least there are still a few up although they're not telling us very much anymore.

 

[marlywings]

A 32-year-old from Tarneit and a 34-year-old from Point Cook, who were arrested at a Tarneit home about noon, were released from the St Kilda Rd police complex pending further inquiries.

The pair were released about 9pm after being questioned by detectives, and the investigation into Ms Cafferkey's death was continuing

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...-over-her-murder/story-fnat79vb-1226522265704

 

[oz_sleuth]

A 32-year-old from Tarneit and a 34-year-old from Point Cook, who were arrested at a Tarneit home about noon, were released from the St Kilda Rd police complex pending further inquiries.

The pair were released about 9pm after being questioned by detectives, and the investigation into Ms Cafferkey's death was continuing

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...-over-her-murder/story-fnat79vb-1226522265704

Guess they weren't involved then

 

[moreinfo]

Common link on FB - TB - SH - DA

Dungeon map - tag is in block of Chlorinda, Ashwood, Swordgrass

bit lost with abbreviations. who does TB stand for and DA

 

[FruitTingles]

Guess they weren't involved then

That's what I thought too. But apparently just a Police 'tactic'.

 

[Makara]

A brief summary on being arrested in Victoria.

http://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/1882.htm

IMO investigators are simply gathering more evidence in regard to these two and It wouldn't surprise me if a few electronics have been put in place. They were supposedly arrested at about midday on Wednesday and released at 9:00pm. That is a very long time to be held in custody without any charges being layed. IMO we will be hearing more about these two males.

MOO:

 

[MelbourneGirl]

Can anyone confirm or add to this? Trying to get the facts straight in my head...

SC = victim - friends with SH and TB on FB. Unknown how they know each other, mother suggests through other mutual friend. Some suggestion of other 'activity' but unknown at this stage. Ex GF of CS and may have been friends with AW on FB (not confirmed). Seen with SH at a pub and his BM house, this was the last sighting of her.

CS = ex BF, made distasteful comments on SC FB page and commented in response to SH comments on same page. Now has tribute photo as profile and lovey dovey message, police say not involved.

SH - accused/ alleged murderer of SC. last seen with SC on Saturday 10th at a bar and at his BM house (not sure which was the last sighting) accused of killing SC on Saturday and moving her body to PC house between Saturday and Sunday. FB friends with SC, TB, AW. Has home in BM and either a) also lives with AW in PC and so is the second renter or b) has access to AW house in PC for some as yet unknown reason. Tagged into numerous posts including the PC address and the 'RD'

AW - owner (possible renter?) of PC house where SC was found. Friends with SH and TB on FB. Has seen therapist after 'traumatic experience'. Arrested today with other (unknown) person released after questioning, no charges. Possibly owns yellow car that may have been used to transport SC body to PC. Also tagged into the 'RD' - not confirmed?

TB - friends with SC, SH, AW on FB. Tagged at 'RD' with SH. no other tangible connection at this time but because of 'RD' tag possibly linked to PC house also.

Unknown / possible multiple unknowns - probably male, possible connections to case - if SH is not the second renter of the PC address then there is an unknown person who also lived there. AW was arrested with another man also unknown at this stage, could be the unknown renter or a second unknown person. Unknown 3, occupier of Hawthorn address.

SC car - seen at multiple locations, ended up in marybynong (?) if SH dumped car, when and how did he get back to PC/BM. No sign of struggle in car

Yellow car - used to transport SC body. police advise owner not involved so not owned by SH. Could be owned by AW or unknown person. Stripped and dumped on hwy. Who ever dumped car needed to be picked up from hwy so there is a second person involved here at least.

BM address- SC visited with friend on the 10th, returned with SH later that day as reported by neighbor. No mention of police presence here but must of been if this is where she was killed as reported. SH lived here 18 months.

Hawthorn address - location of SH when found by LE. Was staying there for a few days before arrest. Occupier of H address said to be a friend of SH, Male. Unknown - Could be the second person arrested today?

Unknowns -

Why was SH assumed to be living at PC home by neighbors when he clearly had a home in BM? is this even the case of have we just made this assumption?
Why did SH need to move SC body?
How did the yellow car get stripped and dumped if SH was working alone?
Were power tools really heard, by who?
If SH was not the second renter, who was?
Who was arrested with AW today?
Who tipped LE to location of SC body and SH location?

Seeing the above laid out, I'm more and more convinced that TB's only connection is the 'RD' post. Im not sure there is any other tangible connection? I also think there are more 'unknowns' - the possible second renter, the occupier of the H flat and the person arrested today.

IMO SH acted alone at his BM house, same MO as the previous conviction and the others are just dodgy bit players who should have known better and called the police and didn't. Some warped sense of loyalty or fear of SH. Arrests today were designed to scare more than anything to try and get all the facts.

Thoughts?

 

[moreinfo]

ahhh, still catching up . However just a trying to work this out.. So the Point Cook house was apparently not occupied at the time leading up to body being discovered by AW. AW was away somewhere. Has El torro confirmed that he had been away. I know that there was something saying he wasnt at work MOnday and they were taking messages. Othere tenant not there. Neighbours hear tools. I am thinking that this house may have been used as a manufacturing lab. Hence why maybe tools/machinery were heard at that late hour. I'd like to believe this theory about why tools were heard rather than anything else. Is AW living there or is he living elsewhere.
Also saw that CS has posted a condolence on tuesday for SC.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

ahhh, still catching up . However just a trying to work this out.. So the Point Cook house was apparently not occupied at the time leading up to body being discovered by AW. AW was away somewhere. Has El torro confirmed that he had been away. I know that there was something saying he wasnt at work MOnday and they were taking messages. Othere tenant not there. Neighbours hear tools. I am thinking that this house may have been used as a manufacturing lab. Hence why maybe tools/machinery were heard at that late hour. I'd like to believe this theory about why tools were heard rather than anything else. Is AW living there or is he living elsewhere.
Also saw that CS has posted a condolence on tuesday for SC.

Earlier this week PC neighbours said there were two men living in the house, one had a little dog. Man fitting SH description drove his car 'straight across the nature strip' (same position as beat up car is sitting in still), then looked around before he went in and out of the front door'. Hadn't seen anyone at the house for the past week. Interview was on ch 9 maybe.
I think power tools might have been used to strip out the yellow car before dumping it.
AW could have been staying at the house at Tarneit. His work was only quoted as saying they got a message to say he wouldn't be in on Monday this week.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

That was on the original Help! Find Sarah Cafferkey Facebook page, which is now gone. A guy saw the car, someone told him to tell the police. I am certain of it, because later someone commented that 'no that was in the wrong place...' something like that. So frustrating all these pages and links disappearing.

Different sighting. The one you're thinking of on the Help page was a young guy, N <modsnip> M, him and his mates saw the car on Friday 9th, during the day. Parked on the road to Ballan, nobody around it. That night was the last time Sarah's mum saw her.
The other report was a silver Astra matching the description of Sarah&#8217;s car having been seen on several occasions since 9 November parked at a location closer to home, not in Bacchus Marsh and not 50kms away in a suburb of Melbourne.

 

[SouthAussie]

Earlier this week PC neighbours said there were two men living in the house, one had a little dog. Man fitting SH description drove his car 'straight across the nature strip' (same position as beat up car is sitting in still), then looked around before he went in and out of the front door'. Hadn't seen anyone at the house for the past week. Interview was on ch 9 maybe.
I think power tools might have been used to strip out the yellow car before dumping it.
AW could have been staying at the house at Tarneit. His work was only quoted as saying they got a message to say he wouldn't be in on Monday this week.

Yes, I think that could have been why the power tools were used too. I may have watched too much TV, but aren't labs usually more secure? Large dog(s), cameras, attempts to nonchalantly reduce visibility into/access to the property with shrubs/building materials/shade cloth? Sarah was only a slim little thing, think she could fairly easily have slipped into a bin, especially at the hands of an adrenalin-charged creep.

MOO

 

[Makara]

A few screencaps of one of the arrested males taken from the link below.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest...two-more-arrests-over-sarah-cafferkey-murder/

The quality of the screencap I took of the other male was very poor so I won't bother posting it. He had his hands over his face the whole time anyway. He looked to be thick set, was handcuffed and wearing what looked like a white forensic suit.

The three pics below were screen captured in sequence. The quality is poor but it is very difficult to get a clear image from a video of a moving object or anyone in that object. In the first pic the male has his hands up to his face, his thumb is running parallel with his nose as he turns his head into his hands.

Looking out the window just before he puts his head in his hands.


In the next pic, it looks like he is wearing a gold ring on both the index finger and the middle finger of his right hand. It looks like he has a pimple or something on the right side of his chin.

Anyone recognise that chin or profile?


The last pic is very grainy but it does look like he has fair, spikey hair. This is more obvious in the actual footage. This male was also handcuffed and wearing the same white forensic suit.

 

[Makara]

It's been stated in MSM that Sarah was murdered at the home of SH at Bacchus Marsh. Why then hasn't there been any reports of forensic officers at that address? I would expect to see at least a small snippet reported in MSM. :waitasec:

 

[LegallyBrunette]

It's been stated in MSM that Sarah was murdered at the home of SH at Bacchus Marsh. Why then hasn't there been any reports of forensic officers at that address? I would expect to see at least a small snippet reported in MSM. :waitasec:

They were probably all at Point Cook (or the journos were)

 

[Makara]

Looking at a few things on SH FB - someone might have mentioned this before - in 'Likes' is a hotel in St Kilda that's a gay bar.

Saw that. Apparently he had a trans-sexual partner at one stage. :what:

MOO.

 

[mammon]

Newbie here. Been following thread but I want to have clarification on
AW. How does he know SH? Is AW educated and in the transport industry?

Yes...

 

[fruity]

Just had another look at CS's fb page. Looks to me like he has a child. I can't imagine anyone with such a young child doing something has horrific as everything that happened to Sarah.

Some of the most horrendous crimes against children are committed by their parents.

Look at poor little Kiesha.