Australia Australia - Shirley Finn, 33, Perth, 22 Jun 1975

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Shirley Finn murder inquest told detective Arthur Simms 'confessed' to murder
ABC News
BY JOANNA MENAGH
UPDATED ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO (as at 19:00 AEDT 13 December 2017)

‘The inquest into the murder of brothel madam Shirley Finn has been told a senior detective named Arthur Simms left a group of colleagues "gobsmacked" when he allegedly confessed he was the one "who pulled the trigger".

The evidence came from former police officer, Chris Ferris, who testified the confession was made at a regular social gathering of officers in the Pinjarra station after Mr Simms, who'd previously been in the CIB, took over as the officer in charge.’

‘Giving evidence via telephone, Mr Ferris said Mr Simms told the "gobsmacked" group that Ms Finn "was not playing the game and he pulled the trigger on her".

"It startled me, it alarmed me. I stopped going to the gatherings because I didn't like hearing that stuff … if he was guilty, I didn't want to be around him," he said.

"Was he telling the truth ? I wouldn't know but he seemed to be adamant he'd done it."

Mr Ferris said he had been "haunted" by the confession ever since but maintained he had never been asked before to make a statement about it.

When asked if he said anything to his superiors at the time, Mr Ferris replied: "I would have been finished in the police force if I did that."

"The repercussions would have been catastrophic if you went and told someone. You would be drummed out of the job."’

Ferris rejects grudge motivation

‘Under questioning from David Leigh, counsel for the Police Commissioner, Mr Ferris rejected suggestions that he was motivated by "resentment' or "a grudge" against Mr Simms, who he admitted had tried to get him sacked.

Mr Ferris claimed after he stopped going to the social gatherings Mr Simms had "turned on him" and "verballed him" to try to get him falsely charged with stealing.

But Mr Ferris said it ended up being only an internal departmental matter, after which he got a transfer out of Pinjarra station and went on to do 27 years of frontline policing.

"I have no animosity towards the man because the day he made the confession I treated him with great caution."

Arthur Simms is the third detective to be directly implicated in Ms Finn's murder in evidence at the inquest.’

‘Earlier in his evidence Mr Ferris rejected claims from an "informant" that he had told someone at a private party in Tom Price that he had witnessed "the execution" by police "of a well dressed woman in Como."

Mr Ferris described the claim as "********", saying he had never seen anybody executed, apart from on TV.

"That's never happened in my life. I've never seen a woman executed. I've never seen police officers execute a woman."’

Read more at:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...uest-told-officer-confessed-to-murder/9256054
 
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Shirley Finn murder inquest told vice squad chief Bernie Johnson threatened another madam
ABC News
BY BRIANA SHEPHERD
UPDATED ABOUT 8 HOURS AGO (as at 06:45 AEDT 21 December 2017)

‘A former Perth brothel madam was told she would "end up like Shirley Finn" if she refused to help vice squad chief Bernie Johnson fabricate evidence against another policeman, an inquest into Ms Finn's 1975 murder has heard.

Linda Watson said she entered the sex industry in Perth in 1979, four years after Ms Finn was killed.’

‘Ms Watson told the court she was paying the police under an "informal containment policy" to run her brothel, Man International, which she opened in 1980.

She said before opening her establishment, she had met with two vice squad detectives, Niven and Wicks, who outlined the rules to her and told her she would need to pay them $100 per girl per week.

With 20 girls registered on her books, she said that amounted to $100,000 a year, but she agreed because there was a "lot of money to be made".

Ms Watson told the court despite the fact she believed she was paying for police protection, her brothel was constantly raided, so she complained.

But when the raids continued, she said she stopped paying police.

Some time later she said Mr Johnson visited her at her home, when he asked her to implicate an officer in illegal activity.

"He was hoping I'd help take down a copper," she said.

'He had the evil eye'

Ms Watson said she knew the officer — someone she had been in a relationship with previously — so she refused.

"He said if you don't give me that information, if you don't give me what I want, you're going to end up like Shirley Finn," she told the court.‘

Read more at:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...-told-bernie-johnson-threatened-madam/9277348
 
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FINN, Shirley
Listed for hearing: Adj sine die
Adjourned: Call Over 6 April 2018 at 9.30am

The Shirley Finn Inquest was supposed to resume today Friday 2nd March but fro the above information seems to have been adjourned. Is this correct?

Please does anyone know why, if it has been adjourned?
 
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Holy buckets, you have to wonder what they are implying?

Since retired, Detective Thoy told the 2003 Kennedy Royal Commission into Police Corruption that senior officers tried to shut down the inquiry. He alleged a senior officer told him “they’re not going to kill you or anything, but Robin, you have got to write it off. Just write it off. They’re going to make you ill, or you’re going to get ill. Just write it off and it can’t hurt you. Or words to that effect.’
https://www.finnmurder.com/breaking-the-code.html
 
  • #25
The whole place is poisoned

When Deputy Commissioner Frank Peters complained to the Commissioner of Police Brian Bull in 1989 about the failure to investigate large scale drug importations to remote airstrips in the remote north of Western Australia, an investigation was launched. Not into the illegal drug flights, but instead into the Deputy Commissioner.

His office, car and home were bugged and he was put under constant surveillance.

As one police officer said, "you could not go into Mr Peters' office without a can of insecticide because of all the bugs in there".
Mr Peters explained to me in 2003 why the dogs were set on him. "A surveillance officer gave me information that there were planes from Asia flying under the radar to a remote airfield and three or four hours later they would fly back out in the same direction. They flew them in that low that they couldn’t be detected even by the jumbo jets flying from Asia”, Peters complained that nothing was being done to investigate this serious allegation.

The Commissioner, Brian Bull didn't take kindly to criticism and unleashed the internal affairs unit on Peters despite there being no allegation of corruption against the 39-year career cop.

In the end Peters was forced to go public and The West Australian recorded the bizarre level of surveillance into Peters. The Commissioner had no choice but to admit he was spying on Peters for the wrong reasons.

Peters said. "If you want to speak out against a system that is wrong and it's able for that system to suppress you by being dogged and your phone bugged, well I say God help the police force and God help society.
https://www.finnmurder.com/breaking-the-code.html
 
  • #26
Its plain as day. Concerns for the integrity of law. Rayneys case being an example. Hell knows what went on at race tracks.

Frank Scott left the police force in 1993 after years of victimisation by senior officers who thwarted his attempts to investigate the liquor and gaming branch. Here's some of his allegations.


  • Senior WA Police knew and condoned drug dealing, money laundering and illegal trading in liquor by the Coffin Cheater Bikie Group at their Bindoon Rock Concerts.
  • Police in Port Hedland received money from prostitutes and illegal gaming operators.
  • A senior detective had a corrupt association with a well-known racing identity and criminal and had corruptly helped him escape fraud charges.
  • A former senior officer was linked the infamous Mr Asia drug syndicate
  • A former senior liquor and gaming branch officer and bagman used kickbacks from illegal casino operators to pay for a rural property.

    https://www.finnmurder.com/breaking-the-code.html
 
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Peters said. "If you want to speak out against a system that is wrong and it's able for that system to suppress you by being dogged and your phone bugged, well I say God help the police force and God help society.

"No way am I corrupt and no way am I bloody well dishonest," he told Leroy Betti of the The West Australian in 1989. " If I don't speak out the end sufferers are the police force which in turn directly affects the community."
https://www.finnmurder.com/breaking-the-code.html
 
  • #28
Trying to find a newsaper article where Kalgoorlie police officer was found flying in drugs in a small aircraft.
 
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But at its heart, this is an unforgettable story of a son struggling to win approval from a cruel father, one who at various times had him committed to the notorious Chelmsford psychiatric hospital and denied him access to his own children. With unabashed candour, Alan reveals the remarkable personal lives of those who lived with Mr Sin.
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Shirley Finn inquest: Purple circle of corrupt detectives drank with Abe Saffron
ABC News
BY JOANNA MENAGH
UPDATED ABOUT AN HOUR AGO (as at 01:07 AEDT 12 December 2017)

‘A powerful so-called "purple circle" of corrupt detectives existed in WA's police force at the time of the murder of brothel madam Shirley Finn, an inquest into her death has heard.

Former detective Robin Thoy told the hearing the "heavies" of the group were from the "consorting, vice and break-in" squads, and its leader was vice squad chief Bernie Johnson.

The inquest has heard Mr Johnson was the second detective to arrive at the crime scene near Royal Perth Golf Club, where Ms Finn was found shot four times in the head at the wheel of her car.’

‘Mr Thoy was a junior detective at the time and described the purple circle as "pretty powerful people" who "could do whatever they wanted."

He testified he was once invited to join the circle, but had refused to do what was asked of him by Mr Johnson.

"What he wanted me to do was give evidence in his case," Mr Thoy said.

"I didn't have a clue … I said I wouldn't do it and I knew my career in the CIB was not going to be very good, if at all.

"You didn't say no to Bernie Johnson. He was a very powerful figure. Once you say that, you don't go anywhere."

'It was straight out extortion'

Giving evidence via video link from Tasmania, Mr Thoy also said he was aware police received payments from prostitutes.

"It was just straight out extortion … the girls paid for protection. Bernie was the leader," he said.

When questioned about the veracity of his claims, Mr Thoy replied: "I was in the CIB for 19 years. I watched, I saw if they did well or not.

"I'm not making it up — I was there."

Another former detective, Laurie Tyler, told the inquest he had heard of "the purple circle" and when he first started, it was suggested to him that he should be associating with certain officers if he "wanted a long career".

However, he said they never approached him and he did not know how it operated.

Abe Saffron 'with police at pub'

Mr Tyler also testified he saw senior detectives, including Mr Johnson, at the Raffles Hotel in the company of its owner, underworld figure Abe Saffron.

He said police officer and now convicted killer Roger Rogerson was also present, but at that time he had not been exposed as corrupt and was considered to be a "highly decorated detective."

He had not found it surprising to see police with Saffron, because "that was their job, to associate with criminals. As a junior detective, I didn't ask questions."’

Read more at:

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...t-witness-denies-accusing-neddy-smith/9247760
 
  • #30
AKA the Catholic mafia or just The Catholics

Another former detective provided a different interpretation of the so called "purple circle" within the WA Police.
Lindsay Okamoto said he knew it as a group of senior administrative people "on the sixth floor" who were "all involved in the Catholic Church" and "all lived in the same area".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-...face-shirley-finn-inquest-doctor-says/9247352


#PurpleCircle
 
  • #31
Didn't know this thread existed. I've posted quite a few Finn related posts on the unsolved Perth Murder Victims thread FYI.
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327387

Dunno how difficult it would be to have moderators move them.

For instance>

An alternative suspect to Bernie Johnson for doing in Shirley Finn was mentioned by Owen Leitch, Spike Daniels who was in charge of the Firearms Branch at the time. I heard another retired cop say something about this as well, at his hospital bed. This former cop also worked at firearms branch. I don't know how reliable his opinion is, so I'll call it as hearsay as it was said 40 years after the murder. But I passed his name onto the cold case team at the time, and last I heard was that they were going to see him when he was out of hospital.

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1972 Nickel price scam, where were the proceeds sequestered? From another thread>

Money from an unnamed "syndicate" through Hong Kong was invested through Shirley Finn in early 1970's to buy a block of flats at 88 Mill Point Rd, South Perth. "Police believed this was a primary motive in her murder"

"DIRTY GIRL: The State Sanctioned Murder of Shirley Finn" by Juliet Wills http://amzn.asia/aMK5Vc0

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Interestingly this investment from Hong Kong appears to be just after the Leopold Minerals Nickel swindle, where a Mr Lloyd questioned by the Rae Committee after one of the Directors of Leopold Minerals was jailed, described trading shares and sequestration of money through Hong Kong.

Mr Lloyd, tells of the director's share trading through bogus companies using names of other family members in Hong Kong> http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article110347540

Is it coincidence that the figure of half a million dollars is mentioned by Mr Lloyd?
Same amount that Shirley Finn was apparently owing?

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Bernie Johnson's death prompts hope for truth about Perth brothel madam Shirley Finn's murder
ABC News
UPDATED 40 MINUTES AGO [as at 15:36 AEST 20 April 2018]

‘A former top detective who was spoken about with fear by witnesses at an inquest into the murder of Perth brothel madam Shirley Finn has died.’

‘Ms Finn's daughter, Bridget Shewring, said she hoped anyone with information about her mother's death would now speak out.

"I hope some truth can come out now," she said.

"A lot of people were too frightened to talk while he was still alive and I just hope they can come forward and tell the truth."’

‘The inquest into Ms Finn's killing is due to resume later this year.’

To read more, click on the headline (above).
 
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"Finn Murder Map blunder" The Post July 7, 2018.
Shirley Finn biographer Juliet Wills has made a bombshell discovery about a police mistake ...A police map drawn after the murder places the crime scene in the wrong place. "It's at the opposite end of the golf course," Ms Wills said this week. "The error has distorted the entire case."...

Constable McMurray who while on motorbike patrol found the car with Ms Finn's body... at 8.00 am on 23rd June 1975, said it was 100 yards south of the seventh green...
Ms Will said a local pharmacist who went past on the day of the shooting confirmed this northern location...Several witnesses who said they saw a police car and another vehicle and men near the Dodge between 2.00 am and dawn had been disregarded or had doubted their own eyes after being shown the police map. "They said it happened here", but the map was widely circulated and it influenced witnesses," Ms Wills said.


 

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"Finn Murder Map blunder" The Post July 7, 2018.
Shirley Finn biographer Juliet Wills has made a bombshell discovery about a police mistake ...A police map drawn after the murder places the crime scene in the wrong place. "It's at the opposite end of the golf course," Ms Wills said this week. "The error has distorted the entire case."...

Constable McMurray who while on motorbike patrol found the car with Ms Finn's body... at 8.00 am on 23rd June 1975, said it was 100 yards south of the seventh green...
Ms Will said a local pharmacist who went past on the day of the shooting confirmed this northern location...Several witnesses who said they saw a police car and another vehicle and men near the Dodge between 2.00 am and dawn had been disregarded or had doubted their own eyes after being shown the police map. "They said it happened here", but the map was widely circulated and it influenced witnesses," Ms Wills said.


Cambridge/Claremont/Nedlands/Mosman/Cottesloe/Subiaco Post

07/07/2018

Front Page Article Headlines

> Finn murder map blunder Page 1 and continued on Page 17

>WITNESSES WARNED Claremont killings case alert

https://postnewspapers.com.au/wp-content/uploads/07072018.pdf
 
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