Australia Australia - Sylvia Pajuczok, 53, Bombala, NSW, 23 Dec 2008

[FigTree]

Thankyou for the link Makara!
http://www.naroomanewsonline.com.au...ng-sylvia-missing-persons-week/?cs=12#slide=1

Supporting each other through the grief, the best friends made a pact with each other.
“If something happened to one of us, we would make sure we would find a way to let each other know where we were.
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The Coroner’s Court has met a number of times in the interceding years, and will meet again in Bombala on October 20, 2014.

“People just forget,” Rachael said.
“I don’t want this to happen with Sylvia.

What a wonderful friend Sylvia has in Rachael Staunton-Bush.
I hope that there is someone who remembers something about Sylvia when the posters go up - and I hope they go to the Police and report it.

Sylvia is not forgotten here.
I think about her often.

 

[OkieGranny]

http://www.edenmagnet.com.au/story/...ly-seeks-closure-from-coronial-inquest/?cs=12

"I believe the move [to Bombala] can only benefit our long-time mystery," Mrs Hillier said. "It will mean that Mum's disappearance will be right in the faces of the people of Bombala. It's a small town, the arrival of the coroner from Sydney to investigate will be a big thing," she said.

Mrs Hillier also believes it will be beneficial for the coroner to gain an understanding of the geographical nature of the district - as well as its psyche.

"When he sees where Mum's Tarago was found [abandoned on the Monaro Highway between Rockton and Bombala on December 27, with her handbag, glasses and cigarettes locked inside] he will know that it wasn't a case of her stepping out of the car and, for example, accidentally falling," she said.

 

[BreakingNews]

I've just read Sylvia's daughter's article in That's Life magazine. Makara, I'm more convinced than ever that you are right about who to look at. James Hawes was mentioned in the article simply as being the last person to see her. I can picture the police tapping their toes, waiting...waiting...

Time someone coughed up about this and help the family finalise this chapter in their lives.

 

[Makara]

I've just read Sylvia's daughter's article in That's Life magazine. Makara, I'm more convinced than ever that you are right about who to look at. James Hawes was mentioned in the article simply as being the last person to see her. I can picture the police tapping their toes, waiting...waiting...

Time someone coughed up about this and help the family finalise this chapter in their lives.

I haven't read the article but the police have their suspect, they just don't have enough evidence to charge him YET.

 

[BreakingNews]

I haven't read the article but the police have their suspect, they just don't have enough evidence to charge him YET.

This must happen a lot and I imagine frustrates the police no end. How awful to think a murderer has 'got away' with it for this long. I'm all for a bit more pressure being placed on these types of people. Forget human rights. The criminals have. I can't believe I am saying this, but times are changing.

 

[1968]

Sylvia, a mother of 3 and a grandmother, decides to leave her home at Eden in Dec 2008
and visit her brother and other friends in Bombala for Xmas. She is away from and misses
her 3 children and grandchildren who live in Sydney.

Her brother, with whom she has planned to spend Xmas, is for some reason called away. She decides to spend Xmas
with her ex boyfriend, who lives next door to her brother.

She is described by friends as being 'depressed' and 'paranoid ' at this time of her life, saying she thought that people
from her home town of Eden are trying to kill her. Evidently she is staying with ex boyfriend Mr H while the brother is away
Mr H is the last person to see her alive. Mr H admits they argued. And she drove off. Never to be seen again.

It seems the general consensus of the police and her family members that Mr H has killed her.
I wonder if anyone else, any other POI were looked at in this case. Or was Mr H in the frame from Day 1?

I don't like that she's alone, at night, female and most likely upset. It's dark, an isolated area. A highway. Maybe not a main
one but a highway all he same. Isnt a stranger abduction a consideration?

Because no signs of struggle, and handbag, glasses and cigarettes left in her car. Car is locked
and keys are missing. As is her wallet.

Consider the scenario. Sylvia has left her car, only her keys and wallet in hand.
Didn't need the glasses, maybe the pack of cigarettes is a spare. Didnt want the handbag, maybe it's too full
of crap....

She's willingly gone somewhere. With someone. Someone who saw her on the side of the road, perhaps stopped in her car,
perhaps out of her car having a cigarette.They stop, it's Xmas after all, to offer assistance.

Ends up hearing all about her troubles. Establishes that no one is likely to come looking for her in the immediate future.
And that she's argued with the last person to see her.

The person who stops is persuasive, comforting, non threatening. The offer of a drink or a coffee is too hard to refuse.
But the person who Sylvia goes with is not a Good Samaritan. Far from it.

I don't think Mr H did it at all. IMO he was the perfect patsy.

 

[Makara]

Sylvia, a mother of 3 and a grandmother, decides to leave her home at Eden in Dec 2008
and visit her brother and other friends in Bombala for Xmas. She is away from and misses
her 3 children and grandchildren who live in Sydney.

Her brother, with whom she has planned to spend Xmas, is for some reason called away. She decides to spend Xmas
with her ex boyfriend, who lives next door to her brother.

She is described by friends as being 'depressed' and 'paranoid ' at this time of her life, saying she thought that people
from her home town of Eden are trying to kill her. Evidently she is staying with ex boyfriend Mr H while the brother is away
Mr H is the last person to see her alive. Mr H admits they argued. And she drove off. Never to be seen again.

It seems the general consensus of the police and her family members that Mr H has killed her.
I wonder if anyone else, any other POI were looked at in this case. Or was Mr H in the frame from Day 1?

I don't like that she's alone, at night, female and most likely upset. It's dark, an isolated area. A highway. Maybe not a main
one but a highway all he same. Isnt a stranger abduction a consideration?

Because no signs of struggle, and handbag, glasses and cigarettes left in her car. Car is locked
and keys are missing. As is her wallet.

Consider the scenario. Sylvia has left her car, only her keys and wallet in hand.
Didn't need the glasses, maybe the pack of cigarettes is a spare. Didnt want the handbag, maybe it's too full
of crap....

She's willingly gone somewhere. With someone. Someone who saw her on the side of the road, perhaps stopped in her car,
perhaps out of her car having a cigarette.They stop, it's Xmas after all, to offer assistance.

Ends up hearing all about her troubles. Establishes that no one is likely to come looking for her in the immediate future.
And that she's argued with the last person to see her.

The person who stops is persuasive, comforting, non threatening. The offer of a drink or a coffee is too hard to refuse.
But the person who Sylvia goes with is not a Good Samaritan. Far from it.

I don't think Mr H did it at all. IMO he was the perfect patsy.

BBM. Not according to her daughter, whom I've spoken to personally. And not according to the police investigating Sylvia's disappearance. Sylvia did not decide to spend Christmas with her ex boyfriend Mr. H. She simply visited his property where apparently an argument ensued and Sylvia then allegedly left the property. There were other POI's investigated but Mr. H. is the only suspect in this case.

 

[Makara]

Sylvia Pajuczok inquest: Not enough evidence for murder charge

Liz Tickner
[h=1]Oct. 22, 2014, 1:09 p.m..[/h]
http://www.bombalatimes.com.au/stor...nquest-not-enough-evidence-for-murder-charge/

 

[ruined detroit]

[http://www.bombalatimes.com.au/story/1103203/six-million-dollar-man-for-a-day/

http://www.bombalatimes.com.au/story/1103042/rockton-man-shares-sad-story-of-child-migration-from-england/

Minor local celebrity

 

[Bohemian]

Sylvia, a mother of 3 and a grandmother, decides to leave her home at Eden in Dec 2008
and visit her brother and other friends in Bombala for Xmas. She is away from and misses
her 3 children and grandchildren who live in Sydney.

Her brother, with whom she has planned to spend Xmas, is for some reason called away. She decides to spend Xmas
with her ex boyfriend, who lives next door to her brother.

She is described by friends as being 'depressed' and 'paranoid ' at this time of her life, saying she thought that people
from her home town of Eden are trying to kill her. Evidently she is staying with ex boyfriend Mr H while the brother is away
Mr H is the last person to see her alive. Mr H admits they argued. And she drove off. Never to be seen again.

It seems the general consensus of the police and her family members that Mr H has killed her.
I wonder if anyone else, any other POI were looked at in this case. Or was Mr H in the frame from Day 1?

I don't like that she's alone, at night, female and most likely upset. It's dark, an isolated area. A highway. Maybe not a main
one but a highway all he same. Isnt a stranger abduction a consideration?

Because no signs of struggle, and handbag, glasses and cigarettes left in her car. Car is locked
and keys are missing. As is her wallet.

Consider the scenario. Sylvia has left her car, only her keys and wallet in hand.
Didn't need the glasses, maybe the pack of cigarettes is a spare. Didnt want the handbag, maybe it's too full
of crap....

She's willingly gone somewhere. With someone. Someone who saw her on the side of the road, perhaps stopped in her car,
perhaps out of her car having a cigarette.They stop, it's Xmas after all, to offer assistance.

Ends up hearing all about her troubles. Establishes that no one is likely to come looking for her in the immediate future.
And that she's argued with the last person to see her.

The person who stops is persuasive, comforting, non threatening. The offer of a drink or a coffee is too hard to refuse.
But the person who Sylvia goes with is not a Good Samaritan. Far from it.

I don't think Mr H did it at all. IMO he was the perfect patsy.

BBM. Not according to her daughter, whom I've spoken to personally. And not according to the police investigating Sylvia's disappearance. Sylvia did not decide to spend Christmas with her ex boyfriend Mr. H. She simply visited his property where apparently an argument ensued and Sylvia then allegedly left the property. There were other POI's investigated but Mr. H. is the only suspect in this case.

Coming in late here and not discounting that JAH is the main suspect in Sylvia's disappearance and presumed murder. It has been established they had an argument before Sylvia left so JAH was said to be the last person to see her alive although CJM seems to have a lot to say - maybe a little too much? I wonder if he was one of the people police were interested in?

Bombala inquest into suspected death of Sylvia Pajuczok hears foul play likely
Bombala Times
Liz Tickner
Oct. 20, 2014, 4:26 p.m (AEDST)
(Accessed Sunday June 12, 2016)

'Ms Cameron recalled being at Mr Hawes' place one night for dinner when a man by the name of Chris Murdoch showed up uninvited.

She said Mr Murdoch had had a few drinks and during "chit chat" at the kitchen table mentioned that Mr Hawes had been the last person to see Ms Pajuczok on Christmas Eve, 2008.

The dinner had taken place near the anniversary of Ms Pajuczok's disappearance, she said.

Ms Cameron said Mr Murdoch wasn't in a very good mood and it "wasn't nice" the way he had brought it up.

"Jim didn't look very happy about it," she said, adding that she could tell by the look on his face.

When she later asked Mr Hawes what Mr Murdoch had been talking about he admitted to her that Mr Pajuczok had been at his place on Christmas Eve, and that the pair had had a row, and he told her to leave.

Mr Hawes told her the police were out to get him, she said.

"He told me he was [a suspect]," she said.

In evidence, Mr Murdoch conceded that he may have said something along the lines of "look under the bed for an axe" to Ms Cameron in order to "stir" Mr Hawes the night of the dinner.

He said that his partner, Barbara Fox, was in hospital in Canberra during December 2008 and early January 2009.

Mr Murdoch said he visited Ms Fox in hospital on December 24 because it was her birthday.

He said he was at home on December 23 and had phoned Ms Fox at 9.54pm.

When questioned as to why he was able to be so precise about the time of the phone call, Mr Murdoch said he had checked his phone records with Telstra "a week or so back".

Mr Burke asked him if he had wanted to have an "alibi".

He said he was "just interested" in where he was.'

http://www.bombalatimes.com.au/stor...ath-of-sylvia-pajuczok-hears-foul-play-likely'

Interesting also that CJM had access to earthmoving equipment. I wonder when the widening of his driveway occurred?

Severe penalty for land clearing
ABC News online
Updated Wed 9 Mar 2011, 7:45 AM AEDT
(Accessed 12 June 2016)

'Christopher John Murdoch was prosecuted by the state Environment Department for damaging two hectares of the South East Forests National Park in 2008.

The court heard he directed an earth moving contractor to undertake road widening near his property, south-west of Bombala.'

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2011-03-09/severe-penalty-for-land-clearing/2665430

 

[1968]

interesting bit there Bo, about the earth moving business in 2008. And I would say, if he was questioned at the Bombala inquest,
that CJM was perhaps a 'person' of interest....

 

[Bohemian]

interesting bit there Bo, about the earth moving business in 2008. And I would say, if he was questioned at the Bombala inquest,
that CJM was perhaps a 'person' of interest....

I would be very interested in finding out how the relationship between JAH and CJM has 'developed' over the years. Something about CJM's behaviour/turn of phrase doesn't sit right with me. I am of the opinion he knows more than he's telling or he's done more than he's admitted (which is nothing). It almost seems like he has something over JAH and it doesn't seem like simple 'stirring' to me.

 

[Cassie.P]

Sylvia, a mother of 3 and a grandmother, decides to leave her home at Eden in Dec 2008
and visit her brother and other friends in Bombala for Xmas. She is away from and misses
her 3 children and grandchildren who live in Sydney.

Her brother, with whom she has planned to spend Xmas, is for some reason called away. She decides to spend Xmas
with her ex boyfriend, who lives next door to her brother.

She is described by friends as being 'depressed' and 'paranoid ' at this time of her life, saying she thought that people
from her home town of Eden are trying to kill her. Evidently she is staying with ex boyfriend Mr H while the brother is away
Mr H is the last person to see her alive. Mr H admits they argued. And she drove off. Never to be seen again.

It seems the general consensus of the police and her family members that Mr H has killed her.
I wonder if anyone else, any other POI were looked at in this case. Or was Mr H in the frame from Day 1?

I don't like that she's alone, at night, female and most likely upset. It's dark, an isolated area. A highway. Maybe not a main
one but a highway all he same. Isnt a stranger abduction a consideration?

Because no signs of struggle, and handbag, glasses and cigarettes left in her car. Car is locked
and keys are missing. As is her wallet.

Consider the scenario. Sylvia has left her car, only her keys and wallet in hand.
Didn't need the glasses, maybe the pack of cigarettes is a spare. Didnt want the handbag, maybe it's too full
of crap....

She's willingly gone somewhere. With someone. Someone who saw her on the side of the road, perhaps stopped in her car,
perhaps out of her car having a cigarette.They stop, it's Xmas after all, to offer assistance.

Ends up hearing all about her troubles. Establishes that no one is likely to come looking for her in the immediate future.
And that she's argued with the last person to see her.

The person who stops is persuasive, comforting, non threatening. The offer of a drink or a coffee is too hard to refuse.
But the person who Sylvia goes with is not a Good Samaritan. Far from it.

I don't think Mr H did it at all. IMO he was the perfect patsy.

What u read in the media is not always true she my mother did not think anyone from her home town was trying to kill her. Also every person that my mother ever knew has been questioned and looked at by police. James Hawes is the only that has things to hide and who continuously changed his story as more witnesses and evidence were found. We also know with evidence and true facts she did not drive her car to the spot it was found and she did not meet anyone out on the highway James Hawes is the person who did it we all know this the only reason he wasn’t charged yettt is because the coroner wants to find her remains he believes there they will find the one missing piece of evidence that will Make sure James Hawes is found guilty. There is already a lot of evidence and it is a huge case u can not even imagine how much work police have and still put into it. People can specualate and make up far fetched stories like yous but the facts are the facts and you obviously don’t really know many of them at all. Hopefully one day soon this will all be over and everyone can start talking about what really happened.

 

[Bohemian]

What u read in the media is not always true she my mother did not think anyone from her home town was trying to kill her. Also every person that my mother ever knew has been questioned and looked at by police. James Hawes is the only that has things to hide and who continuously changed his story as more witnesses and evidence were found. We also know with evidence and true facts she did not drive her car to the spot it was found and she did not meet anyone out on the highway James Hawes is the person who did it we all know this the only reason he wasn’t charged yettt is because the coroner wants to find her remains he believes there they will find the one missing piece of evidence that will Make sure James Hawes is found guilty. There is already a lot of evidence and it is a huge case u can not even imagine how much work police have and still put into it. People can specualate and make up far fetched stories like yous but the facts are the facts and you obviously don’t really know many of them at all. Hopefully one day soon this will all be over and everyone can start talking about what really happened.

Thank you for joining the thread, Cassie. I am so sorry for the loss of your mother. I can’t imagine how much heartache you’ve experienced. All of the posters here have the best, if uninformed, intentions in your mother’s case. Also, I have asked a Mod to assist you with becoming a ‘Verified Insider’ if you would like to join the thread permanently.

 

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