Australia Australia - Theo Hayez, 18, Belgian backpacker, Byron Bay, June 2019 #3

[mussopossum]

There is also no dirt on the brim of the cap. There is no splash-up that happens to an item when it has been raining and a ground item gets stained by the wet dirt from the ground and the wet leaves.

The topsoil looks very loose there (as much of our Aussie soil is due to the general dryness of our climate). I think there would have been dirty splash on the brim if the cap had been out there for 5 weeks.

I think there has only been the one image released in MSM of this hat.

Im wondering if it might been found and moved prior to this image being taken and released to the media.

Maybe we are not seeing any original first images of how it might have been found?

Just a thought?

IMO

 

[Deleted member 255258]

Cadaver dogs have searched there already right? They would find anything they're trained to find. Anne earlier mentioned that radar imagining thing too that can detect beneath sand without resorting to a digging machine. Where wold you start anything and it could take ages with a small tool. You couldn't use anything larger out of fear of damaging anything found.

Not sure that any of these tools (or dogs) were used at CC nor how effective/ accurate radar machines would be in sand. Maybe such a machine can be brought in to CC? That's something Gamble could organise.

 

[BusterXP]

As long as his points are not based on the information that is to be kept confidential then I agree

The way I see it is that even a Verified Insider should refrain from stating opinions as fact. They have certain direct experiences but their opinions, unless based on and verified with substantial evidence, are just opinions.
There's a bit of a line that could be drawn based on inside knowledge but I think it's prudent not to disclose anything that is based on information not publicly disclosed.
An analogy is a Solicitor, or someone training to be so, who can't give 'legal advice' or legal opinions in similar circumstances or appear to have any specialised knowledge above that which is generally known. I use the terms 'generally known' loosely. To do so breaches ethics and is possibly illegal.

 

[BusterXP]

Not sure that any of these tools (or dogs) were used at CC nor how effective/ accurate radar machines would be in sand. Maybe such a machine can be brought in to CC? That's something Gamble could organise.

Machine maybe. I did come across research with one that picks up the same scents that the Cadaver dogs do.
I can find no rational reason to dig up the area based on speculation and I severely doubt that permission to do so would be granted.
We need something 'solid' to go on. It should be, at least, based on solid leads.

 

[Rocket333]

Not sure that any of these tools (or dogs) were used at CC nor how effective/ accurate radar machines would be in sand. Maybe such a machine can be brought in to CC? That's something Gamble could organise.

"Yesterday, two dogs from Sydney trained to detect human remains scoured the rugged terrain around Cape Byron Lighthouse after being brought in by the volunteers.
NSW police previously brought in their own dogs, before calling off the ground search for Mr Hayez early last month."
NoCookies | The Australian

"Searches are far more efficient when using a cadaver dog; they allow the police to cover a larger area at a faster rate than searches using police officers alone, while also freeing up manpower."
Cadaver dogs: attending camp with the canines trained to smell death

 

[Deleted member 255258]

Maybe someone can verify if GPR equipment was used at CC? If not, that would certainly be better than digging.

 

[mussopossum]

I'm wondering how much rain there was over that 5 weeks. Leave a hat out in those conditions for 5 weeks and how does its appearance change? Dry exposed sunlight I'd think would have a different effect to dark and possibly moist air.
Edit: posted before I saw the pic put up.

Not sure how accurate this is.

Average Weather in June in Byron Bay, Australia - Weather Spark

 

[Deleted member 255258]

"Yesterday, two dogs from Sydney trained to detect human remains scoured the rugged terrain around Cape Byron Lighthouse after being brought in by the volunteers.
NSW police previously brought in their own dogs, before calling off the ground search for Mr Hayez early last month."
NoCookies | The Australian

"Searches are far more efficient when using a cadaver dog; they allow the police to cover a larger area at a faster rate than searches using police officers alone, while also freeing up manpower."
Cadaver dogs: attending camp with the canines trained to smell death

Did they do CC though? GPR equipment would be the best option. Wouldn't disturb the ground. Its the last place Theo was, and the bush and grass area were gone over, so beneath the sand is the only place left there to search.

 

[mussopossum]

I agree on this. Cos the way it’s sitting on that log in the pic makes it stick out like dogs balls!

*Laughs out Loud*

 

[CKTC]

Cadaver dogs have searched there already right? They would find anything they're trained to find. Anne earlier mentioned that radar imagining thing too that can detect beneath sand without resorting to a digging machine. Where wold you start anything and it could take ages with a small tool. You couldn't use anything larger out of fear of damaging anything found.[/

Both police search dogs and volunteer search dogs were employed. IMO given that his last known location was Cosy Corner it would have been searched thoroughly. The photos in this article show the dogs returning from Cosy Corner.
NoCookies | The Australian[/QUOTE]

 

[BusterXP]

Not sure how accurate this is.

Average Weather in June in Byron Bay, Australia - Weather Spark

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Seems dry with less cloud cover. That would relate to being cooler of the night as heat escapes.
The leaf areas would be dry forest species I'd say (I'm not much on biology) without, possibly, a lot of leached tannin to stain the cap.
Geez, I was here and I can't remember the weather.

 

[mussopossum]

His shoe was still on him when found and went missing at night 9 pm so unlikely he went for a swim but maybe a fall or jumped? Or? Grim beach find ends a long search

Is no coroners inquests I can find for this case and I so want to know more about it

 

[mussopossum]

Maybe if the hat was upside down and turned over, the leaves would be stuck to it?

Maybe just Maybe that would make sense

IMO

 

[BusterXP]

In regards to the hat, it has been previously stated that it was flipped over with a stick before the photo was taken. It definitely wasn’t found in that position.

That would fit with me. I've thought that if it was dislodged and fell it might travel peak first and be unlikely to land the way it is seen. It's scrunched up a bit on the top but that might be due to factors other than it resting on the top.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

is this the article peralta?
Body found in Tweed Heads park
Body found in Tweed Heads park – Echonetdaily

Thanks for that unfortunately not the one I’m referring to. This is the most recent homeless man that was murdered. I believe a suspect is in custody. And is linked to another homeless person’s murder.

On the LFTH fb page (the public one), insiders have said that the man in custody IS NOT the CC abandoned camp guy / man on license found near abandoned camp.

The new story I spoke of can be found by google searching “body found in Byron Bay bushland”. I still can’t find a non paywall source.

 

[Aron.Wor]

Hahahhahah IMO you have changed between your previous writing to this new language of trying to sound like your all pompas. Please let me know which personality I am talking to and I will adjust accordingly. Previously you stated you had taken ice so please refrain from posting if you are on something as it sounds jiberish!

IMO, one must look within themselves to find the true meaning of who they are! When one tries to help one other they themselves must ensure they have the skill set to do so and must not hide under the gaze of a pseudonym!

To accept ones self is to accept ones faults!

See I can write jibber as well!

Please keep it to plain English!



if people don’t want to read it and want it closed they can just not log in! Easy solution!

Oh, you're very cute. That jibberish gets me high distinctions at uni. I guess you just have to understand why there's a shift in language, and that people move on from their pasts, sometimes. You like to refer to things that happened 10 years in both our lives. . I do apologize, but can we please keep this thread about TH. Because it's starting to become about GM, and that's not going help solve this case. Let's have some respect and empathy, please. I'm really trying here to keep this all cool and not step out of line. The family needs closure.

 

[Aron.Wor]

Hahahhahah IMO you have changed between your previous writing to this new language of trying to sound like your all pompas. Please let me know which personality I am talking to and I will adjust accordingly. Previously you stated you had taken ice so please refrain from posting if you are on something as it sounds jiberish!

IMO, one must look within themselves to find the true meaning of who they are! When one tries to help one other they themselves must ensure they have the skill set to do so and must not hide under the gaze of a pseudonym!

To accept ones self is to accept ones faults!

See I can write jibber as well!

Please keep it to plain English!



if people don’t want to read it and want it closed they can just not log in! Easy solution!

And I'm going to block you now, in the best interest of this thread. So long.

 

[BusterXP]

Thanks for that unfortunately not the one I’m referring to. This is the most recent homeless man that was murdered. I believe a suspect is in custody. And is linked to another homeless person’s murder.

On the LFTH fb page (the public one), insiders have said that the man in custody IS NOT the CC abandoned camp guy / man on license found near abandoned camp.

The new story I spoke of can be found by google searching “body found in Byron Bay bushland”. I still can’t find a non paywall source.

I also found some articles but they are all pay walled like you found.
I think this case has come up recently and some thought it was recent:
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

 

[bearbear]

I also found some articles but they are all pay walled like you found.
I think this case has come up recently and some thought it was recent:
We’re for Sydney | Daily Telegraph

every single article paywalled!!!

 

[bearbear]

theres links to some interesting articles here, some i havent seen before...
theo hayez | Search Results | Daily Mail Online | Daily Mail Online