Australia Australia - Theo Hayez, 18, Belgian backpacker, Byron Bay, June 2019 #3

[Jables333]

I wonder if, at 12:56am, Theo started heading up the road to the lighthouse.

I think a previous post of yours said that if his (or 'a') phone was underneath the tower the signal may have gone low (presumably due to tower height and the tower transmissions being sent outwards over distance).

That's an interesting thought indeed.

From your timeline:

- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:55 sends WA message

- 00:56 ping location point “near town”

- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded

I'm still looping possibilities related to the 7 minutes stop at the Rec Grounds and the apparent hike to Cosy and feel that persons he met during that time are involved.

But if, as you suggest, he did go up the road to the lighthouse then he could have met or been picked up by someone and given a ride somewhere.

That would explain the ping closer to town. And the phone signal at 6am, and 1:42pm later that day.

And it would explain why there's nothing washing up on beaches or being found in the area.

 

[espirtu pampa]

Are there any Belgian's on this forum? Does anyone know if the Belgian police are still working on this case?

I'm trying to find info. Emailed a friend who studied Law and who could provide info where to look for.

There is another member from Belgium on here maybe s/he knows more, I hoop.

 

[CuriousJazz]

I’ve been following this case closely. It’s so puzzling and I don’t feel strongly confident towards the proposed scenarios of accident or foul play- I mean it could be so many different things- And we are missing pieces and maybe we just don’t have enough information yet. I really hope new information comes forward.

I really enjoyed the podcast and the suggestions to look at phone activity of other phones in the area At the beach.

I was wondering if they’ve also investigated the path/locations of people Théo interacted with at cheeky monkey? Or even taking it further back to people he interacted with at the hostel and Byron bay in general. I mean if it was a party at cozy corner that was mentioned to him at the pub - there would be others travelling from Cheeky monkey to cozy corner as well (at a later time).

I also feel the 7 minutes was crucial in the decisions that Théo made, and if more information about that time might help us solve this.

 

[feralflower]

There has been some friction over police not doing enough, not checking out all leads, handling potential evidence too lightly. A lot goes on behind closed doors and hopefully they do know more than they are telling. I am at two minds about this, their response seemed well in the beginning, police divers, cliff climbers and a serious effort put in. Then there are also too many accounts of people submitting potential evidence later, mostly evidence which does not support Theo falling off the cliff, evidence which suggests foul play like the bat found for example or the incident near Coffs with the person lying on the road though we don't know if a thorough search of the area was done there after Theo was reported missing, high chances are no follow up search was done. I just hope police and detectives did keep an open mind and are not being bullet headed about their conclusion of Theo falling off a cliff just because he was known to be there. In all seriousness most of Byron Bay is a lot of ocean so being near ocean somewhere is likely and not necessarily meaning a person has drowned. Byron Bay besides the dangers of the water is also a hot spot for night time assaults, the police did say initially they were not ruling anything out. Perhaps the early coronial inquest is their way of working with the system in the best manner possible to open up alternative areas of inquiry. They did not need to forward this to the coroner for 12 months I believe so doing this early is in the best interests of Theo and his family as time is of essence. If there is an open finding perhaps a green light will be given for further investigation. There is a lot we don't know and I hope the coronial inquest is given timely priority so more comes to light. At end of the day though if we ask ourselves if this was our prime minister who disappeared in the same manner would there be a similar result? Presumed to go over the cliff? Or would the investigation continue leaving no stone unturned?

 

[SouthAussie]

They did not need to forward this to the coroner for 12 months I believe so doing this early is in the best interests of Theo and his family as time is of essence. If there is an open finding perhaps a green light will be given for further investigation.

I think we'll find that the police had to report this case to the Coroner as soon as there was a suspicion of death.
It has also been said (in the William Tyrrell case) that an inquest is the last stop before the case becomes a cold case.


"After exhaustive checks by the Missing Persons Unit if a person can not be located alive and checks determine that they have not left the country, have not accessed bank accounts or services (eg, taxation, centre link, RTA etc) the Police are required, if they suspect that the person is deceased, to report the suspected death to the Coroner."

"In some cases, (such as missing persons) the Coroner may form the view that the person is deceased, however, is not able to determine the place, date or manner and cause of death. That does not preclude the Coroner from returning a finding and usually the finding is referred to as an open finding as to date, place, manner and cause of death."

"Similarly, in missing person’s cases the Coroner must be reasonably comfortable that the missing person is deceased and apply the Briginshaw test when returning a finding that the person is deceased."
http://lsa.net.au/Portals/7/THE_ROLE_OF_THE_CORONER_AND_CORONERS_COURT.pdf

 

[T-dawg420]

Oppo phones rank very high in smartphone comparison. They are not an uncommon phone.
They have a 5 star rating (the highest) in value for money, overall satisfaction. durability, battery life, and appearance.
They rank #1 among all of the popular brands.

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Smartphone Review | Best Smartphones Australia – Canstar Blue

At the inquest the police will be fully accountable for all of their deductions. Unless they are privately/covertly investigating someone in relation to Theo's disappearance (always a possibility), I personally see no reason for them to evade the truth about the found phone.

I was just looking at this article.

The oppo phone does get a decent review but i wonder how popular it actually is? They surveyed 1700 aussie smartphone users.
“The seven brands included in our latest smartphones review were rated in the following order for overall customer satisfaction:”

It’s a 7 phone review. I think it’s pretty subjective. As in this is the only article I could find that has oppo as first?

I looked into a bit more cos honestly I’ve never heard of oppo before this case. The phone that was found has been stated as not Theo’s, and we don’t even know what kind of phone it was. If say an iPhone was found, it might not be that hard to mix it up with an oppo. But if it was an oppo found buried, IMO that’s too much of a coincidence. Below I’ll put some articles up that I’ve been reading.

first lists a top ten rankings for phones currently in Australia 2019 an oppo isnt there
Best phones in Australia 2019: top 10 smartphones tested and ranked | TechRadar

This one has 2 oppo phones in a list
https://7news.com.au/technology/australias-top-10-best-mobile-phones-of-2019-c-584283

This is a list per country of the uses of phones caculated by web traffic in Q2 of 2019
The most popular smartphones in 2019

This one is a mobile vendor market share. It has oppo listed 4th in Australia on 3.69%.


Personally I would have liked to hear why the phone found buried wasn’t Theo’s. Such as it was a different make and model, it was registered to someone else (don’t have to release actual names and info) etc. Just a little bit more than ‘no it wasn’t his’. They have given absolutely no reasoning behind it not being Theo’s phone.

Surely there’s no privacy/confidentiality breach by releasing this info?

Imagine if it was the exact make and model buried in that sand?

 

[T-dawg420]

Just to add... there is a lot of talk on the police investigation and whether it was botched etc.

IMO there is nothing wrong with questioning how the police conducted themselves during an investigation. Questions on how they investigated, why they investigated and why they didn’t. Police need to held to the highest levels of accountability and this happens by questioning things.

Because if the police conducted the investigation to the highest possible level then they have nothing to worry about by people asking questions should they?

One thing they shouldn’t do is get offended or upset when people question them. I assume part of the coronial stuff includes probing the police investigation measures.

Why are people so upset with the police being held to account? Cos once again if they’ve done nothing wrong they got nothing to fear.

All IMO of course

 

[SouthAussie]

I was just looking at this article.

The oppo phone does get a decent review but i wonder how popular it actually is? They surveyed 1700 aussie smartphone users.
“The seven brands included in our latest smartphones review were rated in the following order for overall customer satisfaction:”

It’s a 7 phone review. I think it’s pretty subjective. As in this is the only article I could find that has oppo as first?

I looked into a bit more cos honestly I’ve never heard of oppo before this case. The phone that was found has been stated as not Theo’s, and we don’t even know what kind of phone it was. If say an iPhone was found, it might not be that hard to mix it up with an oppo. But if it was an oppo found buried, IMO that’s too much of a coincidence. Below I’ll put some articles up that I’ve been reading.

first lists a top ten rankings for phones currently in Australia 2019 an oppo isnt there
Best phones in Australia 2019: top 10 smartphones tested and ranked | TechRadar

This one has 2 oppo phones in a list
https://7news.com.au/technology/australias-top-10-best-mobile-phones-of-2019-c-584283

This is a list per country of the uses of phones caculated by web traffic in Q2 of 2019
The most popular smartphones in 2019

This one is a mobile vendor market share. It has oppo listed 4th in Australia on 3.69%.


Personally I would have liked to hear why the phone found buried wasn’t Theo’s. Such as it was a different make and model, it was registered to someone else (don’t have to release actual names and info) etc. Just a little bit more than ‘no it wasn’t his’. They have given absolutely no reasoning behind it not being Theo’s phone.

Surely there’s no privacy/confidentiality breach by releasing this info?

Imagine if it was the exact make and model buried in that sand?

The Oppo is the 2nd top selling phone in China. I guess we'd have to gauge its popularity in other countries (among foreign backpackers).

 

[SouthAussie]

Why are people so upset with the police being held to account? Cos once again if they’ve done nothing wrong they got nothing to fear.

All IMO of course

I don't think anyone is upset with the police being held to account. They will be fully accountable at the inquest.

But to continually question them for not releasing perhaps personal and private information, and police investigation materials, is only going to tick them off and make them be uncooperative with others. imo
So I don't know why that is happening. We "catch more flies with honey than vinegar".

 

[T-dawg420]

I don't think anyone is upset with the police being held to account. They will be fully accountable at the inquest.

But to continually question them for not releasing perhaps personal and private information, and police investigation materials, is only going to tick them off and make them be uncooperative with others. imo
So I don't know why that is happening. We "catch more flies with honey than vinegar".

Actually I catch a helluva lot more flies with a sink full of dirty dishes then a sink that’s clean.... as well as honey

 

[BusterXP]

"Similarly, in missing person’s cases the Coroner must be reasonably comfortable that the missing person is deceased and apply the Briginshaw test when returning a finding that the person is deceased."

Info regarding the "Briginshaw Test'. It has to do with the balance of probabilities.
How does Briginshaw vs Briginshaw affect the balance of probabilities?

With the lest strict determination of a balance of probabilities I often vision it as holding your hands out like scales. They tip up and down until, eventually, they come to rest with one favouring.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

At end of the day though if we ask ourselves if this was our prime minister who disappeared in the same manner would there be a similar result? Presumed to go over the cliff? Or would the investigation continue leaving no stone unturned?

Lol, funny you mention that. We DID have a sitting prime minister, Harold Holt, who disappeared at a beach. He went for a swim in the ocean and never came back. No remains were ever found. He was declared dead in absentia.

 

[mussopossum]

I did add your info (as Chiatos asked me to, until they return) ... back in post #470 - noted in red.
I have now added sparks info as well - hopefully in the right place - again, noted in red.
I have also added Peralta's times for the drop in phone signal, as per post #528.


- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson (went to the intersection of Cowper St/Carlyle St and then backtracks to Marvell St) and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- stops at T junction for a minute and searches WU hostel
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- steers around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:55 sends WA message
- 00:56 ping location point “near town”
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode – drop in phone signal from 02:00-04:00
- +/- 04:00 moon rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- 13:42 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC

That's an interesting thought indeed.

From your timeline:

- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:55 sends WA message

- 00:56 ping location point “near town”

- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded

I'm still looping possibilities related to the 7 minutes stop at the Rec Grounds and the apparent hike to Cosy and feel that persons he met during that time are involved.

But if, as you suggest, he did go up the road to the lighthouse then he could have met or been picked up by someone and given a ride somewhere.

That would explain the ping closer to town. And the phone signal at 6am, and 1:42pm later that day.

And it would explain why there's nothing washing up on beaches or being found in the area.

Just a correction

- 00:55 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'

(There was no second what's app at 0056)

- 00:56 GPS co-ordinate point “near town”

That was my understanding please correct me if I am wrong?

 

[SouthAussie]

Just a correction

- 00:55 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'

(There was no second what's app at 0056)

- 00:56 GPS co-ordinate point “near town”

That was my understanding please correct me if I am wrong?

Just listened to the 6th podcast again, and made the relevant adjustments.

One thing that I find strange is how it is stated in the podcast that 'the margin of error was a couple of kilometres' with regard to this 12:56 GPS location.
What makes all the other GPS locations considered to be accurate then? Is a whole new story being built around potentially inaccurate data?
From what Sherri said in the podcast, no-one has been able to replicate the GPS data in their testing ... just a part of it.

*************************************************************
- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson (went to the intersection of Cowper St/Carlyle St and then backtracks to Marvell St) and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- stops at T junction for a minute and searches WU hostel
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- steers around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 00:56 GPS location point “near town” - 'coinciding with WA message'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode – drop in phone signal
- +/- 04:00 'new moon' rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- 13:42 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC

*************************************************************

 

[Jenz]

Just listened to the 6th podcast again, and made the relevant adjustments.

One thing that I find strange is how it is stated in the podcast that 'the margin of error was a couple of kilometres' with regard to this 12:56 GPS location.
What makes all the other GPS locations considered to be accurate then? Is a whole new story being built around potentially inaccurate data?
From what Sherri said in the podcast, no-one has been able to replicate the GPS data in their testing ... just a part of it.

*************************************************************
- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson (went to the intersection of Cowper St/Carlyle St and then backtracks to Marvell St) and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- stops at T junction for a minute and searches WU hostel
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- steers around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 00:56 GPS location point “near town” - 'coinciding with WA message'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode – drop in phone signal
- +/- 04:00 'new moon' rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- 13:42 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC

*************************************************************

What i'm wondering is what's going on in the other times between messages, walking etc. And what makes him/his phone head straight into the clearing? If gps is correct.

Theo/ his phone comes out of the clearing and there's 15 minutes before there's a message to Lou.

There is 30 or so minutes between the time of watched youtube and the WA message. What is going on in this time? Did he/his phone make the journey back toward town...?
ETA: Too late now, but it would have been interesting to observe cctv from 1am around town

 

[SouthAussie]

What i'm wondering is what's going on in the other times between messages, walking etc. And what makes him/his phone head straight into the clearing? If gps is correct.

Theo/ his phone comes out of the clearing and there's 15 minutes before there's a message to Lou.

There is 30 or so minutes between the time of watched youtube and the WA message. What is going on in this time? Did he/his phone make the journey back toward town...?

I don't get it, either. It is not as if he was sitting around drinking with mates. And it was pretty darn chilly out there late at night. What was he doing?

 

[Jenz]

I don't get it, either. It is not as if he was sitting around drinking with mates. And it was pretty darn chilly out there late at night. What was he doing?

Was his phone taken on a journey to make it appear like him being missing was an accident?

Heading straight to the clearing, like there may have been a party there....then back to beach, appearing to hang out for a while, answering his messages, watching you tube?

If that is the case, that took a lot of prethinking in a short time after Tennyson.

Maybe there was someone lurking about at Tennyson who intervened in some trouble happening? He trusted them as a better option to head off with to CC...

Then they lead him back to the tallowbeach car park?

Whoever it was, we are all sure knew that route to CC.

Just all MOO

 

[Pod]

I also find it strange to disregard the ping near town. You either trust all available data, or none at all.

It sounds to me like Theo was making his way back to his hostel after all, hence the zoom in on Google maps. It now seems like Theo made it to the beach safely, stayed there for a short period of time, and left when no one else showed up.

I’m not familiar with the bushland of Byron Bay, but could Theo have taken a wrong turn back through the bush and just fell down somewhere? Are there any steep cliff things literally in the middle of Arakwal National Park?

 

[mussopossum]

Just listened to the 6th podcast again, and made the relevant adjustments.

One thing that I find strange is how it is stated in the podcast that 'the margin of error was a couple of kilometres' with regard to this 12:56 GPS location.
What makes all the other GPS locations considered to be accurate then? Is a whole new story being built around potentially inaccurate data?
From what Sherri said in the podcast, no-one has been able to replicate the GPS data in their testing ... just a part of it.

*************************************************************
- 23:07 he exited CM
- 23:08 he stops briefly in Kingsley
- 23:08 ->11:13 walks to the end of Tennyson
- 23:13 stops for 7 minutes
- 23:21 left the slab at the end of Tennyson (went to the intersection of Cowper St/Carlyle St and then backtracks to Marvell St) and went to Massinger Street at 6km/hr
- then walked up hill from Massinger Str, to Milne St. at 4,5 km/hr
- 23: 30 reaches Milne Str.
- then enters Milne track and reaches T-junction in 5 minutes at 7,5km/hr
- stops at T junction for a minute and searches WU hostel
- then walks for 8 minutes at a little more than 4 km/hr
- steers around Tommy's invisible camp site
- location where Theo's cap was found = between Tommy's camp site and the beach
- 23:48 reaches the beach through a tiny path at a gully with an abandoned camp site
- Theo looks up WU again and walks for 8 minutes to CC at 6km/hr
- 23:56 (+/-) walks up hill and stops for 5,5 minutes in a hidden clearing at about 20m from the sand
- 00:03 Theo / Theo's phone goes back to the beach in less than 2 minutes
- 00:05 GPS tracing stops
- but the phone continued sending signals till the afternoon of June 1st
- 00:20 sends Messenger message to friend Lou in French about U2 Tour: ugh, in September or something?'
- 00:23 watches YouTube Burger quiz for 1 minute and 50 seconds
- 00:56 sends WA message to stepsister in Belgium of a kiss emoji and 'merci'
- 00:56 GPS location point “near town” - 'coinciding with WA message'
- 01:01 Theo's phone zoomed in on the location of his hostel on GM, the phone GPS appears to have still been off because the location of the phone was not recorded
- +/- 02:00 - +/- 06:00 phone in 'sleep' mode – drop in phone signal
- +/- 04:00 'new moon' rises and there is moonlight
- +/- 06:00 phone exits 'sleep' mode (what triggered this?)
- 13:42 of June 1st, last ping, originating from Cape Byron, not from CC

*************************************************************

I beleive that someone has offered an R17 Oppo to borrow for testing and recreating Theos tracks.

So far most of us have tested on different model phones and the OPPO has a few different settings that may alter his GPS or cancel it out completely.

If the testing to go ahead I will ask the thread for any suggestions or tests that they might find suitable to run on the phone whilst it is in possession.

Personally I believe (with his GPS) we need to use the same model but also replicate any settings that he may have had in some of his apps such as Whats App, Facebook etc.

This information would be something Theos family who have access to his accounts should be able to help with.

 

[SouthAussie]

I also find it strange to disregard the ping near town. You either trust all available data, or none at all.

It sounds to me like Theo was making his way back to his hostel after all, hence the zoom in on Google maps. It now seems like Theo made it to the beach safely, stayed there for a short period of time, and left when no one else showed up.

I’m not familiar with the bushland of Byron Bay, but could Theo have taken a wrong turn back through the bush and just fell down somewhere? Are there any steep cliff things literally in the middle of Arakwal National Park?

I would imagine that there are plenty of dips, gullies, tree roots, rainwater runoffs, and other hazards throughout the national park.

As the man in the podcast said (can't recall his name at the moment) his friend's grandmother went missing from her nursing home, was searched for, was publicised ... and was found 2 years later, just 200 metres from the nursing home. He has been searching for Theo because he hopes that a similar thing hasn't happened to him.