Australia - Tiahleigh Palmer, 12, slain, Pimpama River, Qld, 30 Oct 2015 #2 *Arrests*

[watergirl62]

Firing squad!! Yeaaaah man. ITA.
[emoji95] Boom. Done. Gone.

 

[they'll get you]

Robert Xie found guilty of murdering five members of the Lin family
(Sorry for the off topic but yahoooo!!)

Oh thank God some intelligence prevailed!! Well done to the jury!
They worked through Christmas till now.

http://www.9news.com.au/National/201...-of-his-family

 

[Warshawski]

Just imagine....for a moment, how a mother's agony to lose a precious daughter like Tia while in the hands of the child care system. It was no freak accident, she wasn't even sick. Tiah was murdered and her little body was unceremoniously dumped in a nearby river THEN, THEN!! the theory was pushed and peddled that Tiah was JUST an uncontrollable runaway.

I'm truly sicken by this Thorburn clan and I'm filthy mad.

My heart is with Tiah's mum tonight. That would be unimaginable grief!!






Only now, I understand. I know time is our friend.
I'm so sad for your loss and grateful for your kindness.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger? I beg to differ at the moment.

Bless you TGY, such a thoughtful poste in the midst of your own grief. Hang in there, be kind to yourself, allow your own personal journey to unfold, and trite as it seems to say it, time is a great healer. .. there is a tomorrow and one day it will be brighter (I thought it wouldn't happen but it did)

 

[Warshawski]

I sincerely hope that I haven't offended many posters on the subject of suicide and I apologise if I have offended anyone, as it was not my intention to do so...Sadly I lost my beautiful Dad to suicide at a very early age and it is something you never get over (very touchy subject)...I will say no more...MOO..:facepalm:

hi Tiddles, your thoughts and comments are valued by me, and I can't see that you would offend anyone. I am so sorry that you had to go through such a tragic situation, and especially at such a young age. 🐶 This little guy is bringing hugs for whenever you need.

 

[Warshawski]

Wow. So many sad stories of loss among us... so many of us with loved ones who left a big gaping hole in our lives.

I know when I came here I connected with that. I NEEDED to connect with the topics of death and loss and grief that many people find so awkward to even mention. I tend to go walkabout from here for long periods but I keep coming back. [emoji4]

:grouphug:

Justice for Tiah. [emoji173]

i am so sorry that you have had such an agonising loss Waterful, and I hope & pray that you will go gently and kindly with yourself as you traverse the ups & downs, round & rounds, that come as you need. 💟
I have been on an emotional journey reading from so many friends here of their own losses. I wonder if that old saying would do better to have the word 'stronger' replaced with perhaps ' more understanding & more empathetic' ?

Support is crucial we are all told, and I won't disagree, but often that support needs to be in very different formats to what is commonly considered.

I am am so pleased that you find some support through the Websleuth's community and please, if you or anyone feels a need to make a more personal connection at any time, please do reach out to me. I will shut-up & listen if you ask me, I will share a glass or 3 of wine, with appropriate laughter or tears as they come.

😇 ... lol.

its a new year & a new dawn, and to hell with the likes of Rick T and all his similarly misfit, malformed f&):/wits who plague this earth & our society. Get rid of them I say. (Trent is really only a kid - not good at all, maybe too far gone, but he is a very sad product of his environment, so I would want to give him a chance)

 

[they'll get you]

YAY! The things ya see when ya don't have a gun!

"to hell with the likes of Rick T and all his similarly misfit, malformed f&):/wits who plague this earth & our society. Get rid of them I say". :silly:

Seriously Warshawski it's great to hear you're still around!
What a sweetheart you are. Beautiful, you made my day.

Old times eh?

I think it's my shout.

 

[watergirl62]

its a new year & a new dawn, and to hell with the likes of Rick T and all his similarly misfit, malformed f&):/wits who plague this earth & our society.

Nice! Cheers! [emoji482]

Thanks for the kind words, Warshawski, I feel like my fairy godmother just waved her magic wand all around me and everyone here. [emoji92]

Love and Light to you as well. And good wine. [emoji485]

 

[tiddles24]

I'm sorry for your loss, Tiddles.

hi Tiddles, your thoughts and comments are valued by me, and I can't see that you would offend anyone. I am so sorry that you had to go through such a tragic situation, and especially at such a young age. �� This little guy is bringing hugs for whenever you need.

Thankyou so much for your beautiful messages...Websleuths feels like a second home to me and I am so glad I joined...a blended family where we are able to share our thoughts respectfully on all the sensitive issues discussed here on what is happening in our world today, as we can draw strength from one another and in return share the empathy...:blowkiss:

 

[they'll get you]

Wow! How did I miss this.
Has he murdered before?

[h=1]Tiahleigh Palmer accused Rick Thorburn allegedly threatened to kill wife.[/h]


December 25, 2016

RICK Thorburn threatened to kill his wife if she ever left, bragged about murdering someone in his youth and cried in front of a female relative to keep her quiet about his son having sex with 12-year-old Tiahleigh Palmer, court documents allege.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/crime-and-justice/tiahleigh-palmer-accused-rick-thorburn-allegedly-threatened-to-kill-wife/news-story/5b305d75138076036471b8eb956b94ee

 

[watergirl62]

That jumped out at me too. I can't help but question if it is true or is yet another manipulation tactic to keep wifey quiet.

 

[Bohemian]

Wow! How did I miss this.
Has he murdered before?

Tiahleigh Palmer accused Rick Thorburn allegedly threatened to kill wife.




December 25, 2016

RICK Thorburn threatened to kill his wife if she ever left, bragged about murdering someone in his youth and cried in front of a female relative to keep her quiet about his son having sex with 12-year-old Tiahleigh Palmer, court documents allege.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/crime-and-justice/tiahleigh-palmer-accused-rick-thorburn-allegedly-threatened-to-kill-wife/news-story/5b305d75138076036471b8eb956b94ee

No words.

 

[they'll get you]

That jumped out at me too. I can't help but question if it is true or is yet another manipulation tactic to keep wifey quiet.

This is what jumped out at me from the article dated 25th December 2016.

RICK Thorburn ...bragged about murdering someone in his youth.
This is a huge statement!
Was this article sleuthed?

 

[watergirl62]

from courier mail xmas day


RICK Thorburn threatened to kill his wife if she ever left, bragged about murdering someone in his youth and cried in front of a female relative to keep her quiet about his son having sex with 12-year-old Tiahleigh Palmer, court documents allege.

New details about the accused child murderer’s deteriorating relationship with his family have emerged after his son Trent made an unsuccessful application for bail.

All four members of Tiahleigh Palmer’s foster family were arrested in September — nearly a year after the schoolgirl’s body was found dumped on the banks of the Pimpama River.

Police had hauled the family into secret hearings before the Crime and Corruption Commission and bugged their Chambers Flat home before charging Tiahleigh’s foster father, Rick, with her murder.

Rick’s youngest son, Trent, was charged with incest, attempting to pervert the course of justice and perjury while his wife Julene and eldest son Josh were charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice and perjury.

Police have alleged Rick murdered Tiahleigh after discovering his son Trent — then aged 18 — had had sex with the young girl and was worried she might be pregnant.

Court documents say the family allegedly lied to police for months — including at CCC hearings — about Tiahleigh’s disappearance but Julene and Josh eventually gave a version of events around the time the family was arrested.
Rick Thorburn.
CTiahleigh Palmer.

Julene and Josh told police Rick had been home alone with Tiahleigh on the night of October 29 after Trent confessed he had had sex with Tiahleigh. When Julene and the boys arrived home around 10pm, Rick allegedly told them he had “taken care of” the problem and they shouldn’t “ask any questions”.

Statements from other family members claim Julene struggled to keep up the facade over the following months — but continued to lie to police and Tiahleigh’s grieving mother.

Dorothy Fayle, Julene’s mother, told police her daughter and grandson Josh came to stay with her after they were charged with covering for Rick.

“I do not feel like Rick is my husband,” Julene allegedly told her mother.

“It’s hard to relate to him and treat him how I have always done. I can’t treat him any different or he will pick up on it.

“Rick loved Tiah so much and if he can do that to Tiah, he could do it to any of us.”

Mrs Fayle told police Rick was not one of her “favourite people”, was an attention seeker and often told elaborate stories if he thought the person he was talking to was “not very knowledgeable”.

“I know Rick had threatened Julene, she told me Rick had threatened her a while ago that he would kill her if she ever took the boys away from him. Julene has just told me this in the past week,” she said in her statement to police.

Mrs Fayle said her daughter changed dramatically in the months following Tiah’s death and was “not the daughter I used to have”.

“She is very closed, did not talk to me the way she used to. Julene did not want to be around people. Julene has never been a fashionable person but this past 11 months she has deteriorated in how she presents herself, in the clothes she wears.

“She has let her hair go, never looks after it anymore. This is not like Julene as she always took pride in her appearance.”
Julene Thorburn leaving the her Chambers Flat home. Photographer: Liam Kidston

Mrs Fayle said she had not noticed any changes in Rick, Josh or Trent.

She said Julene had confided to her that she was worried if Rick discovered she had made a statement to police about Tiah’s murder, he would “start to turn the story around”.

Mrs Fayle did not believe her daughter had had any contact with Rick since his arrest.

In another statement, a female relative told police Trent had confessed to having had sex with Tiahleigh in a series of Facebook messages not long before the Thorburn family reported her missing.

Months later, in May, the relative received a call from Rick wanting to meet her at a park.

“Rick Thorburn started crying, before begging me to not say anything about the Facebook messages between Trent Thorburn and I,” she said.

Josh told police that after Tialeigh’s disappearance, he had been frightened of coming forward.

“I wouldn’t make it ten steps out the front door,” he said. “I believed Dad would do the same to me, as in kill me.

“I knew Dad had killed someone years ago when he was … a child in care. I think Dad wanted to assure us that he had killed before and didn’t get caught and that’s why he told us this story,’’ Josh told police.

“Dad kept reiterating that we had to keep to the story. This was said by Dad many times since Tiah was killed.”

This (paywall) article? Going back to post 900-ish... No I'm not seeing anything specific about that particular comment. Good idea, TGY.

 

[Bohemian]

This is what jumped out at me from the article dated 25th December 2016.

RICK Thorburn ...bragged about murdering someone in his youth.
This is a huge statement!
Was this article sleuthed?

It is, tgy.

Not that I know of.

How far we'll get will depend on whether he was a juvenile or not at the time if he committed, and was subsequently convicted of, the alleged offence. If he was a juvenile at the time, even if he was convicted, wouldn't those records be sealed or worse, expunged?

It may have been bravado but he has shown he is capable of committing murder. I hope there isn't another of his victim's remains laying either undiscovered or unidentified somewhere.

Take a look back through Tia's threads. I am almost certain there was a post around the time police were closing in around the Thorburn's that mentioned a similar crime scene involving another person some years before Tia's murder. I can't remember if that case was solved or if the property police were searching at the time was connected to the Thorburn's though.

 

[Champaign]

Seeing he is an EX New Zealander it would if not already, have to be investigated over there. From what I read sounds like he did it or sad he did it whilst a juvenile in care??

 

[Wizard Of Oz]

If you go back and look at the links for Rick and gumtree you will see Julene has taken the account over as Julie Thornton and is selling the food van . She's sold the dishwasher recently too .... Same results of you google Rick Thorburn gumtree .

 

[Champaign]

If you go back and look at the links for Rick and gumtree you will see Julene has taken the account over as Julie Thornton and is selling the food van . She's sold the dishwasher recently too .... Same results of you google Rick Thorburn gumtree .

Hey Woo do you have a link? I cannot find it

 

[tiddles24]

Hey Woo do you have a link? I cannot find it

I cannot find it either Woo.

 

[Warshawski]

If you go back and look at the links for Rick and gumtree you will see Julene has taken the account over as Julie Thornton and is selling the food van . She's sold the dishwasher recently too .... Same results of you google Rick Thorburn gumtree .

uummm, well, the 'cash card' is no longer available!

 

[watergirl62]

http://www.jimboombatimes.com.au/story/3333194/spring-mountain-to-host-food-feast-on-saturday/

This is the only photo of the van I could find.