Australia- Two sisters in their 20s found dead inside Sydney unit had been there lengthy time, Suspicious deaths, June 2022

[dotr]

By Stephen Gibbs for Daily Mail Australia 13 October 2024

Saudi father's bone-chilling 'sister death' honour killing taunt

A controlling father sent his daughter pictures of two Saudi women found dead in their Sydney unit after she refused to return from Australia for an arranged marriage.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'A controlling father sent his daughter pictures of two Saudi women who were mysteriously found dead in their Sydney unit after she refused to return from Australia for an arranged marriage.

The father asked his daughter in a text message if the photos scared her and threatened, 'I swear to God I'm going to slaughter you, bury you and no one will know'.

<modsnip - posting more than 10% is a copyright violation - see link>

 

[Marg944]

This matter has been with the coroner for quite a while. Media reports state that it is to be decided if there will be an Inquest. Close to 3 years ago since the tragedy.



August, 2022

“The coroner will decide whether to hold an inquest once they have reviewed the police evidence and the autopsy results.”

‘Timid and upset’: Mystery deepens over Saudi sisters’ deaths

Authorities still do not know how the sisters died after the results from toxicology tests and autopsies were inconclusive.

www.smh.com.au

June, 2023

“The matter is before the coroner.”

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/source-reveals-saudi-sisters-cut-off-communications-with-everybody-in-tumultuous-months-ahead-of-their-deaths/news-story/d941624fd2d0cddd1ae7ce611dccdaba

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023032748496068619

 

[Gemmie]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023032748496068619

From your article:

'According to the police, this is not a random crime and will not be a potential risk for the community.'

 

[Dotta]

From your article:

'According to the police, this is not a random crime and will not be a potential risk for the community.'

To be precise
It is not MY article as I don't work for DM and I'm not a reporter hahaha
I don't even live in the UK or Australia.

I'm just a humble messenger and provider of links I find in MSM,
just saying

 

[Gemmie]

To be precise
It is not MY article as I don't work for DM and I'm not a reporter hahaha
I don't even live in the UK or Australia.

I'm just a humble messenger and provider of links I find in MSM,
just saying

'From your article' is less words to type than 'From the article that you posted'.

 

[Cakegremlin35]

Toxicology reports - which were reportedly inconclusive - recorded unusual levels of sodium, nitrate and fluoride in the apartment.

Does anyone know what that could mean ?

 

[nao]

Toxicology reports - which were reportedly inconclusive - recorded unusual levels of sodium, nitrate and fluoride in the apartment.

Does anyone know what that could mean ?

Moo...in what form and where were the chemicals found. Google the 3 chemicals together and you end up with toothpaste for sensitive teeth...moo

 

[TootsieFootsie]

It's time for answers: Update in dead, naked Saudi sister case

The naked bodies of Asra Abdullah Alsehli, 24, and Amaal Abdullah Alsehli, 23, were found inside their Canterbury flat in the city's south-west in June 2022.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Daily Mail

Asra and Amaal Alsehli: Big development in investigation into Saudi sisters whose naked bodies were mysteriously found in a Canterbury, Sydney apartment​

 

[TangledPuppet]

Is there a lot of agricultural around the area they lived polluting the water? Sodium nitrate and fluoride can cause illness, could have been in drinks they were drinking a lot of (didn't it say in an article way back that they drank a lot of energy drinks from the gas station near by?).

I'm in Canada, so don't know much about the water systems in other countries, but agriculture can pollute waterways, maybe the drinks they were purchasing were poisoning them, or maybe someone was able to add high levels somehow to poison their water bottles without anyone noticing?

They've banned fluoride for the most part here (except recently was voted to be allowed back in to one cities water systems in Alberta smh).

Wonder if they'll take a look at what they were drinking... Nitrate toxicity could definitely make you feel like you are being poisoned, it causes joint pain, stomach problems, bone pain and damage, and can cause skin to turn blue, it can disrupt how the body carries blood oxygen.

IMO. It's very sad all of this

 

[iamshadow21]

Is there a lot of agricultural around the area they lived polluting the water? Sodium nitrate and fluoride can cause illness, could have been in drinks they were drinking a lot of (didn't it say in an article way back that they drank a lot of energy drinks from the gas station near by?).

I'm in Canada, so don't know much about the water systems in other countries, but agriculture can pollute waterways, maybe the drinks they were purchasing were poisoning them, or maybe someone was able to add high levels somehow to poison their water bottles without anyone noticing?

They've banned fluoride for the most part here (except recently was voted to be allowed back in to one cities water systems in Alberta smh).

Wonder if they'll take a look at what they were drinking... Nitrate toxicity could definitely make you feel like you are being poisoned, it causes joint pain, stomach problems, bone pain and damage, and can cause skin to turn blue, it can disrupt how the body carries blood oxygen.

IMO. It's very sad all of this

The water in our state has contained fluoride for decades, and we're all fine.

Canterbury is urban, not agricultural.

Energy drinks don't kill people, unless they have a heart condition or other condition that can be affected by caffeine or other ingredients.

MOO

 

[branmuffin]

Is there a lot of agricultural around the area they lived polluting the water? Sodium nitrate and fluoride can cause illness, could have been in drinks they were drinking a lot of (didn't it say in an article way back that they drank a lot of energy drinks from the gas station near by?).

I'm in Canada, so don't know much about the water systems in other countries, but agriculture can pollute waterways, maybe the drinks they were purchasing were poisoning them, or maybe someone was able to add high levels somehow to poison their water bottles without anyone noticing?

They've banned fluoride for the most part here (except recently was voted to be allowed back in to one cities water systems in Alberta smh).

Wonder if they'll take a look at what they were drinking... Nitrate toxicity could definitely make you feel like you are being poisoned, it causes joint pain, stomach problems, bone pain and damage, and can cause skin to turn blue, it can disrupt how the body carries blood oxygen.

IMO. It's very sad all of this

I don't know where you live in Canada but most of Canada has fluoride in their drinking water. The highest percentages are in Alberta, Manitoba and Ontario. The lowest percentage of usage is in BC and Newfoundland. Alberta stopped using fluoride in the water in 2011 but with an increase in tooth decay they re-introduced it last year. I have no issue with the fluoride in our water. IMO, reducing it has increased the level of tooth decay.

 

[nao]

Moo..it is said these chemicals were in apartment
Sodium is salt, nitrate can be used as health supplement or fertilizer or food preservative. It really depends on what form the chemicals were and how they were used. Suicide by sodium or nitrate or sodium nitrate is doable...moo

 

[dotr]

FWIW..
2024

Kenneth Law facing upgraded murder charges in Ontario sodium nitrite deaths: sources

Murder charges against Kenneth Law have been upgraded to the first degree, sources have confirmed to CTV News.

www.ctvnews.ca

''Law, a former chef from Mississauga, was previously facing 14 second-degree murder charges for allegedly selling sodium nitrite online to people who later died by suicide.

Law was arrested in May after allegedly operating a number of online storefronts to sell sodium nitrite, a preservative used for meat processing that can be lethal in large doses, and additional products like rubber tubing and gas masks – for the purpose of suicide.''

 

[Zedx]

It has been said the girls felt they were in danger, someone had been following them and their food delivery had been tampered with.
Sodium nitrate is found in some cleaning products and is also used for the preserving of food. Fluoride can also be found in preserved meats, black tea and some canned foods.
Is it possible because they felt in danger they were over cleaning everything? And possibly only buying food that could be kept for long periods of time? Seems unlikely, but if they stopped going out, stayed locked in the house, they could have been living in a very toxic environment, add to that a toxic diet?

 

[Witness 28]

As of 2026, the investigation into the deaths of Asra and Amaal Alsehli remains one of Australia's most high-profile "mystery" but the legal process has reached a definitive point regarding the official cause.
1. The Official Finding (Suicide Pact)

The NSW Police finalized their brief of evidence and handed it to the Coroner. While the case began as a "suspicious death" investigation, the final forensic conclusion reached by the investigators and reported to the Coroner was that the sisters died as a result of a suicide pact.
• The Toxicology Proof: A second, highly specialized toxicology report was the deciding factor. It may be that "unusual and lethal levels" of sodium, nitrate, and fluoride in their systems.
• The "cleanliness" of the scene is often the most persuasive piece of evidence for forensic teams. When a room is found in that state, it suggests a level of meticulous planning and quiet resolve that usually points away from a chaotic external attack.

• Method: Investigators believe the substances were ingested intentionally. No other parties were identified as being in the apartment at the time of death, and the doors remained deadbolted from the inside
• 3. The "Financial and Social" Trigger
• Eviction: They were more than $5,000 in arrears on rent and had been visited by the sheriff just weeks before their deaths.
• Family Cut-off: Reports surfaced that the sisters had been cut off financially by their family in Saudi Arabia after falling out over their "Westernized" lifestyle and sexual identity.
• Fear of Return: their fear of returning to Saudi Arabia been deported.
• It's true the two sisters at themselves,but they were really alone and couldn't find a way out of the situation they thought it was hopeless each person handled stress and hopelessness differently, it is true they had no real friends, no one to lean on which makes it harder, they're mental state they found no way out of it, they had no one to talk to ,made the situation in their eyes hopeless ,

 

[Charlot123]

It has been said the girls felt they were in danger, someone had been following them and their food delivery had been tampered with.
Sodium nitrate is found in some cleaning products and is also used for the preserving of food. Fluoride can also be found in preserved meats, black tea and some canned foods.
Is it possible because they felt in danger they were over cleaning everything? And possibly only buying food that could be kept for long periods of time? Seems unlikely, but if they stopped going out, stayed locked in the house, they could have been living in a very toxic environment, add to that a toxic diet?

There is a difference between sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite, but one of them is used as preservative in cured meats. I remember a friend who made home-made amazing Armenian meats that he liked to gift. He used this preservative. Said it was the only way to prepare pulled pork. Today I found online a place that sells “halal and kosher sodium nitrite”. (Whatever this means). But from this, I conclude that halal meat is also processed with this chemical.

It may be toxic in large doses, or maybe the place where the girls bought halal food overused it?

 

[Charlot123]

As of 2026, the investigation into the deaths of Asra and Amaal Alsehli remains one of Australia's most high-profile "mystery" but the legal process has reached a definitive point regarding the official cause.
1. The Official Finding (Suicide Pact)

The NSW Police finalized their brief of evidence and handed it to the Coroner. While the case began as a "suspicious death" investigation, the final forensic conclusion reached by the investigators and reported to the Coroner was that the sisters died as a result of a suicide pact.
• The Toxicology Proof: A second, highly specialized toxicology report was the deciding factor. It may be that "unusual and lethal levels" of sodium, nitrate, and fluoride in their systems.
• The "cleanliness" of the scene is often the most persuasive piece of evidence for forensic teams. When a room is found in that state, it suggests a level of meticulous planning and quiet resolve that usually points away from a chaotic external attack.

• Method: Investigators believe the substances were ingested intentionally. No other parties were identified as being in the apartment at the time of death, and the doors remained deadbolted from the inside
• 3. The "Financial and Social" Trigger
• Eviction: They were more than $5,000 in arrears on rent and had been visited by the sheriff just weeks before their deaths.
• Family Cut-off: Reports surfaced that the sisters had been cut off financially by their family in Saudi Arabia after falling out over their "Westernized" lifestyle and sexual identity.
• Fear of Return: their fear of returning to Saudi Arabia been deported.
• It's true the two sisters at themselves,but they were really alone and couldn't find a way out of the situation they thought it was hopeless each person handled stress and hopelessness differently, it is true they had no real friends, no one to lean on which makes it harder, they're mental state they found no way out of it, they had no one to talk to ,made the situation in their eyes hopeless ,

Not sure that they committed suicide but maybe ran out of money and starved to death?

It is hard, and it didn’t need to be like this, but the girls grew up and in a very different environment. It seems that to survive in a new culture, one has to be prepared to actively ask for help and not get upset on hearing no. One of the doors will eventually open. But I don’t know how their culture views “the behavior of comeback kids”, for lack of a better term. Maybe asking again after a “no” is viewed as “humiliating”. Or maybe the girls themselves were too shy. Sounds like they tried to find support groups, but failed. Too sad.

 

[Dotta]

Not sure that they committed suicide but maybe ran out of money and starved to death?

It is hard, and it didn’t need to be like this, but the girls grew up and in a very different environment. It seems that to survive in a new culture, one has to be prepared to actively ask for help and not get upset on hearing no. One of the doors will eventually open. But I don’t know how their culture views “the behavior of comeback kids”, for lack of a better term. Maybe asking again after a “no” is viewed as “humiliating”. Or maybe the girls themselves were too shy. Sounds like they tried to find support groups, but failed. Too sad.

Wasn't it strange that they only left their apartment at night?
And only to the Petrol Station shop nearby?