Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #5

[sosocurious]

He was never at the scene, which was near the entry of the building, nor could he have possibly been able to know what had happened until he left his apartment. All he saw was WW climb over his balcony and that was the last he saw of her. He never went on the balcony again.
He saw flashing lights as soon as he entered the lobby, so calling 000 would have been pointless. What reason would he have had at any point during the course of events to call 000?

The "not cooperate with police" is contradictory, he handed himself in for examination. How is that not cooperating? Other reports say he DID cooperate.

Drunkenness or mistake could explain why he had her phone. What reason would he have to keep it?

Everything else, he was well within his legal rights. Police were not searching for him. There was no warrant.

BBM

I was just reading through some older posts.
I thought this comment was interesting from a former poster.
post #379

 

[they'll get you]

Count me mystified as to how this court date flew under the radar generally.
Wonder what else is being covered up as we speak?
He's like a slimy fish trying to slip out of the net. Hey, all power to the real fish who get away. But not to Eric Thomas.

I am glad this smart**** is in gaol.

 

[they'll get you]

LayDown Sally.
So if someone can change their name once a year then he could have another name change by the time the murder trial comes around.
Now that he's in prison do you think the police have his computers to do the search on his online activities?
Just keep him in prison until the trial...everything will be so much easier that way.

 

[enzeder]

This article, regarding the DUI/Police pursuit, goes into more detail than I've read before. He actually sped past a fully marked police vehicle! :notgood:

"About 2.20am on July 27, a fully marked police Ford Territory was travelling northbound on the Pacific Hwy near Clothiers Creek when a Ford Falcon, bearing no number plates and driven by Tostee, sped past at a speed "no less than 150km/hr", court documents stated."

Read more: http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/gable-tostee-convicted-tweed-police-pursuit/2533286/

 

[Amee]

This article, regarding the DUI/Police pursuit, goes into more detail than I've read before. He actually sped past a fully marked police vehicle! :notgood:

"About 2.20am on July 27, a fully marked police Ford Territory was travelling northbound on the Pacific Hwy near Clothiers Creek when a Ford Falcon, bearing no number plates and driven by Tostee, sped past at a speed "no less than 150km/hr", court documents stated."

Read more: http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/gable-tostee-convicted-tweed-police-pursuit/2533286/

Tyre deflation devices were successfully used at the entrance to the Tugun tunnel, and both front tyres were damaged, but Tostee continued to drive for 5km, leaving tyre debris and a damaged road surface in his wake.

He admitted the vehicle belonged to his father, and police found the car registration plates in the rear of vehicle. :facepalm:

 

[sleepinoz]

Looks like ET/GT planned to break the law that night.

What other reason would you have to take the number plates off the car place them in the rear of the vehicle and then break the speed limit continually - to avoid speed camera's.

Obviously he didn't think there would be police around at that time of night.

Good on NSW Police.

 

[enzeder]

Tyre deflation devices were successfully used at the entrance to the Tugun tunnel, and both front tyres were damaged, but Tostee continued to drive for 5km, leaving tyre debris and a damaged road surface in his wake.

He admitted the vehicle belonged to his father, and police found the car registration plates in the rear of vehicle. :facepalm:

Wonder whose bright idea it was to remove the number plates?. I can't imagine that Tostee's passengers would have been all that concerned about who actually owned the Falcon. More likely to be a son who had borrowed his father's car.

I see in the article it was about 2.20am when he sped past the fully marked police vehicle so I guess it was yet another early morning wake-up call for his father and a 'Hello dad. I might have a bit of a situation'.

http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/gable-tostee-convicted-tweed-police-pursuit/2533286/

imo

 

[they'll get you]

Wonder whose bright idea it was to remove the number plates?. I can't imagine that Tostee's passengers would have been all that concerned about who actually owned the Falcon. More likely to be a son who had borrowed his father's car.

I see in the article it was about 2.20am when he sped past the fully marked police vehicle so I guess it was yet another early morning wake-up call for his father and a 'Hello dad. I might have a bit of a situation'.

http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/gable-tostee-convicted-tweed-police-pursuit/2533286/

imo

What a danger to public safety and the police.

The insurance would not have covered the 'situation', the rims would have damaged the road surface which would have to be repaired and the tyres flying off would also damage the wheel arches and surrounding panels. FIVE kilometres AT HIGH SPEEDS! Gaaaa!

Without front tyres means there would be a lack of steering and no traction at tihose speeds.

Everyone's lucky to be alive. I wonder if the passengers were scared ***tless or too drunk to realise the danger.

I'm thinking that car would have been impounded.

The only positive thing I'm seeing is that clown pleaded guilty.

The Ford BA 6 cylinder station wagon is a reliable workhorse, there is a tow bar to hitch a trailer to it for the carpets so it could be his fathers work vehicle

I'm sure some parents are sleeping a lot more soundly lately.

This could be the vehicle or a similar replacement........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...driving-Dad-Gable-Tostee-s-arrest-murder.html

 

[they'll get you]

New name change should be Richard Cranium.

I recall driving towards the QLD border and remember the massive amounts of fixed speed cameras.

I know why the rear plates had been removed. Absolutely premeditated.

So they had to get to a nightclub before closing and he was already 4 x over the legal limit.
I understand why he was barred from several Gold Coast clubs now!

Just imagine 3 imbeciles who are intoxicated and evading police for the last several hours walking into your establishment.
GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE!

 

[SouthAussie]

No more news about Eric Thomas/Gable Tostee? Four days in NSW jail now. Settling in with the pedos who have probably all changed their names too.

I wonder if any of them respond when someone calls to them in their new names. "Hey Eric ... Eric ... hey you .. new boy! Yeah you, talking to you."

 

[possumheart]

Wow, this guy seems to have strangely similar compulsive behaviour to GT aka ET aided by social media. Completely different case, but creepy in such a parallel way, if you just subtract the consent factor.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...omen-allegedly-assaulted-20150206-137kmf.html

 

[they'll get you]

Wow, this guy seems to have strangely similar compulsive behaviour to GT aka ET aided by social media. Completely different case, but creepy in such a parallel way, if you just subtract the consent factor.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/wor...omen-allegedly-assaulted-20150206-137kmf.html

Hi Poss:seeya: you're right about the similarities in this article to Mr Whatisface, or what ever his name is today.

With the name change I'm just glad he's in gaol. Everyone is safer.

 

[sosocurious]

Hi Poss:seeya: you're right about the similarities in this article to Mr Whatisface, or what ever his name is today.

With the name change I'm just glad he's in gaol. Everyone is safer.

Ditto TGY

 

[SouthAussie]

Three weeks tomorrow until the committal mention.

Wonder how much money Eric Thomas/Gable Tostee is making towards his defence? They get paid a few bucks a week if they work as a kitchen hand or toilet cleaner in jail, don’t they?


Oh, he can possibly make up to $20 a day. Though I doubt it, as he does prefer to work 15-20 hour weeks, according to his posts on the bb forum.

"Depending on their jobs in prison, they can earn up to $20 per day .....

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...rich-on-jail-pay/story-fn9hm1gu-1226432236632

 

[Deleted member 83851]

What can we expect to happen at the committal mention?

 

[possumheart]

Hmmm ...

A CRIMINOLOGIST has predicted Gable Tostee could be acquitted after a jury rejected a similar argument in a separate case this week.
Criminologist, barrister and former detective inspector Terry Goldsworthy* said the acquittal of Christopher Cairns and Dion Pydde for the murder of Tumara Cousins could set a precedent for Tostee.

During the trial Crown Prosecutor Glen Cash said Mr Cousins had been threatened with a gun, later found to be a replica, and assaulted so severely it “forced him to take the very risky option” of climbing the balcony to flee.
Mr Goldsworthy said the not guilty verdict for Cairns and Pydde could be a sign of things to come in Tostee’s case.“I thought the Cousins’ case was reasonably strong from the facts known but the jury wasn’t prepared to accept that as murder even though there was a gun used, criminal activity taking place and witnesses who escaped,” he said.
Mr Goldsworthy said it was likely Tostee’s lawyer would have been watching the Cousins trial closely.
“If you have a client charged with a death resulting from a balcony fall you would be closely examining every decision in relation to deaths involving balcony falls,” he said.
“They will be going over the arguments used … it will be very important for them.”
Tostee’s lawyer Nick Dore declined to comment to the Bulletin yesterday.

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au...e-case-this-week/story-fnje8bkv-1227226329966

*Terry Goldsworthy is from good old Bond Uni: http://apps.bond.edu.au/staff/profile.asp?s_id=1645
He is doing a study on performance enhancing drugs, and his survey has questions about body building forums in it.
bbm

 

[SouthAussie]

Interesting result in that ^^^ murder trial. So now we have two opposing precedents. The guilty finding in Kym Royall's trial, and the not guilty verdict in Cairns and Pydde's trial.

I wonder if it will make any difference that Rrie was a woman fleeing from violence (as Kelly Healey was), that it was not a dispute over criminal activity, and that Rrie was locked out, thereby being deprived of her liberty, and thereby leaving her no other means of removing herself from her attacker than trying to scale the balcony to another floor.

 

[SouthAussie]

What can we expect to happen at the committal mention?

Committal Mention

A preliminary hearing prior to the full committal hearing. Permission to cross-examine witnesses may be given, matters in dispute will be discussed and a date for the committal hearing can be set at this stage. The Court may also hear and determine some charges if the accused pleads guilty.

https://www.magistratescourt.vic.go...d-traffic/criminal-proceedings/types-hearings


What is a committal mention hearing?
http://www.australiancriminallawyers.com.au/web/page/committal_mention

 

[Ausgirl]

if the accused pleads guilty

Recent estimations suggest that the odds on that are:

 

[marlywings]

Slowly but surely edging closer to April. It will be very interesting to hear what the full brief of evidence contains....

November 19, 2014

Police are expected to finalise their brief of evidence against Mr Tostee by April next year

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/gable-tostee-granted-bail-20141118-11phuh.html


January 13, 2015

“It’s not unusual in compiling evidence like this that supplying a full brief takes time,” he said.

The complicated case involves mountains of evidence, including seized computers and phones.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...from-his-balcony/story-fnihsrf2-1227181972488