Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 1

[Amee]

Superintendent Fehon also said police are investigating whether "human intervention" was involved in William's disappearance.

"Human intervention can include a number of things," he said when asked for clarification

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/2564618/william-tyrell-survival-hopes-are-fading/?cs=2452

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder what spurred the 'surprise' visit to grandma's house? Just passing through from somewhere else? Visiting the local area for some other reason and decided to drop in? Needed to get away from home for a while for some spontaneous and irritated reason? How did they know grandma would be home? .. unless they did call ahead to check.

It seems a lot to drop in on grandma with possibly three children in tow. Perhaps it was just a tea and cake visit, and William was not 'staying' there as had been previously reported.

 

[Xantara]

im just wondering, did the dogs find any of williams scent at all on the property or just tracks not leaving the property?
and because there were no tracks and an opportunist abduction seemed unlikely, what do police really think happened?

BearBear, you have summed up my thoughts precisely!!
I'm not that clued up on how scent dogs work and whether or not they found any scent at all, anywhere, or just not leading away from the property. I believe they are initially given some kind of clothing or toy belonging to the child, and then asked to trace that scent in the environment. If they found no scent AT ALL, then there is either something wrong with the dogs, or for something unusual about William's scent, or the whole scent tracking thing is just not deemed to be that reliable to begin with.
I also am at a loss to imagine what police must or might be thinking now. If they say an opportunist attack is unlikely, are they looking at sex offenders just because out of process and because nothing else has turned up leads ie. are they doing this in search of leads or are they searching on the basis of a lead??
If not opportunistic, then they must be looking closer at someone with some kind of link to the family.
However, if it was a 'surprise visit', and the grandmother didn't know they'd be popping in that day, that kind of weakens the case for a link to the family too. Depends on whether anyone had any idea that they might be visiting that day. Perhaps they told other people, just not the grandmother??
But even then, what kind of a foundation for an abduction is that? If William had never played outside there before, even if someone knew the family so well in order to know the layout of the grandmother's house etc, on what basis could they have assumed that William would be out there for starters, let alone for that five minute margin, unsupervised. And how could they assume the sister would not see anything???
Just too bizarre. I have never come across anything like this before. And from the sounds of it, the police haven't either.

 

[Amee]

Its a horrible thought but if something other than wandering off or being abducted happened the search would still go on.
If you get what Im trying to say...

 

[Amee]

Nevertheless, they [the search crews] are continuing. They want to assist the family in being able to locate young William and to at least bring them back something that they're desperately seeking."


Fairfax Media believes that one of line of inquiry police are following is that a man asked staff in a local shop for directions to Benaroon Drive on Friday, before William went missing.

But Superintendent Fehon would not comment on that part of the investigation.

"We're grateful of all the information that's been provided to us at this point in time and we are following up on all those leads of information," he said.

"We need to go through that information, collate it and analyse it and we need to substantiate or discount that information that's provided to us."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/missing-w...ush-police-20140917-10hy58.html#ixzz3DWtlj83E

 

[bearbear]

Would they really waste resources like that?

sadly not if they were looking for a body.
in another child missing case 2010 in nsw, police and ses spent 7 days searching for a missing child, later revealing they knew from the start her parents were lying

 

[SouthAussie]

As TGY said earlier, police start their investigations very close to home and work outwards. And in the presser yesterday, the officer said they are looking at every angle to make sure that they have all bases covered.

 

[SouthAussie]

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I wonder how long they were at the house prior to William going missing. Could have been there for a while, I guess. Has anyone read when the visit started? I haven't noticed that anywhere myself.

 

[Oddsocks]

Where are you baby boy??
<modsnip>.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Sniffer dogs and cadaver dogs found no scent in the yard, fuelling fears he may have been abducted.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/fear...om-kendall-20140916-10hqb0.html#ixzz3DWx6NtUd

As in not at all, not in the yard anywhere??

 

[SouthAussie]

Where are you baby boy??
<modsnip>.

Me too, Oddsocks. That is my greatest hope right now.

 

[Aglaia]

If they are saying now IF he's in the bush, he wouldn't have survived, wouldn't NOW be the time to bring in cadaver dogs, not take them away??

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I think the police are onto something .. it's gone very quiet and things aren't adding up, that often happens when they no longer need any more help from the public.

 

[ollijack]

poor little kid, I feel sorry for his siblings too

 

[ollijack]

whoops, I will have to change my avatar....sorry

 

[Adrianna]

Where are you baby boy??
<modsnip>.

cant help but hope thats it, its so sad, as a mother ..... my heart just breaks for this gorgeous little man

 

[Adrianna]

did anyone find out who Nicole is?

 

[Froglady]

I read somewhere that they had already had the cadaver dogs in and they also found nothing :/ <modsnip>

 

[Amee]

Sept. 17, 2014, midnight

Strike Force Rosann is based at Port Macquarie and includes detectives from the Mid-North Coast and Manning-Great Lakes Local Area Command.

But it also includes officers from the State Crime Command and Forensic Services Group, in the strongest sign police are now focusing more on the investigation of how, or why, the little boy disappeared. The State Crime Command, under its Serious Crime Directorate, investigates sex crimes as well as disappearance cases.

Superintendent Paul Fehon said the search will continue &#8220;while there is still a chance William is out there.&#8221;

Resources from nearby LACs will be used along with officers from the Public Order and Riot Squad, Police Mounted Unit, Police Dog Unit, Aviation Support and Trail and Bike Squad. on Tuesday afternoon police divers searched previously-checked waterways, while hundreds of searchers roamed hillocks and scrub around the Camden Haven village&#8217;s southwest.

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/25...ablished-in-search-for-william-tyrell/?cs=256

 

[Oddsocks]

did anyone find out who Nicole is?

Nicole is a mystery. I've also seen it spelt nichole.