Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 1

[antechinusRAWR]

I live in a rural area, dominated by bush and gorges. With William in mind, I asked my students what they would do if they were lost in the bush. Not one of them said they would stay put. Some were heading for the top of hills, some were going down hill till they hit a creek, some were just going to keep looking for something familiar. We had a long talk about why, in the bush, you need to stay where you are and wait for searchers to find you. Alarmingly, when we talked about how, if you were lost, there would be people you didnt know looking for you, and calling your name. One of the kids said "they're the ones you hide from, the strangers who pretend they know you" We had a long chat about that one.

Teach them to snap a small branch every couple of steps ANY time they leave a human path. If they snap in the same direction everytime it will point the way back out.

 

[Amee]

Issued by the NSW Police Media Unit, on behalf of the family of William Tyrell



https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/10152454113176185

 

[Xantara]

Thanks so much for The Australian article. Not sure if what I read was the entire article, but I read the four pages of scanned images.

Every time I read an with some new information on this case, I ask myself what my 'gut reaction' in response to that new information is. In this case, the report certainly outlines the logic, diligence and rigour with which the search so far has been executed. In my mind, I have done many, many rounds already of lost in bush > abduction by someone known > abduction by someone unknown > ... etc etc.

As part of this never ending cycle, this article brings me back to two key concepts: LOCAL and ABDUCTION. I have no suspect in mind. I cannot even properly map out a view in my mind, how something like this could have been orchestrated.

But I do know that all paedophiles or abductors etc, start SOMEWHERE, ONE DAY. It may well not be a known sex offender. It may be someone who has been spoken to many times. It may be someone who has never done anything like this before. It may be someone who appears perfectly 'normal' to everyone, and has always done so. Never to be suspected by anyone. Maybe some freak, bizarrely coincidental set of circumstances and opportunities have enabled somebody to slip through this web, somehow.

It is admirable that police dogs WERE on the scene from day one. But William could have already been 'spirited away' by then by a person. The scent of such a person, if it were ever to have attempted to have been identified/tracked, may have been perfectly explicable in the given environment. It may help to put oneself into the 'shoes' of such a person, for want of a better word and pardon the pun. Whoever did this, would not necessarily have been able to preempt what immediate actions would occur upon the boy being noticed missing by his family. They might have preempted police dogs would come along, but perhaps not so many locals coming to search so soon. The latter, as we read, 'contaminates' a scene.
So, somewhere along the line such a person, in an extreme hypothesis, might have had to accommodate a scenario where that person's scent itself might have been found at, say, the boundaries of William's grandmother's property. And that person would have had to have some plausible 'excuse' at the ready, as to why that scent might have been found there.

I have re-read this and don't know whether I am making any sense. And I am not suggesting any family member is involved in this hypothesis...

 

[Adrianna]

Issued by the NSW Police Media Unit, on behalf of the family of William Tyrell



https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/10152454113176185

Oh my goodness how can one not be moved to tears by those words, sending prayers up for a miracle

 

[Xantara]

I might add, that one thing that did surprise me, was to hear how many locals were on the scene so quickly, searching. It was a Friday, and it was not yet school holidays. Forty houses int he street? Are many of these people normally home during the day?

 

[newone]

No one has broached the topic of security cameras ((household use)) by neighbourhood.....seems to be a nice ''comfortable'' neighbourhood where people might have concerns about their property. Given the easy access to getaways in the nearby bush I would think that potential burglary could be an issue ((I do recall neighbor saying there was no issue in past)) and wonder if some of the big city folks who are now retired there would have security cameras that may have caught something ((here's hoping)) MOO

 

[antechinusRAWR]

It's horrible. I'm in a similar area down south, slightly more built up but wild enough to get roos in the yard everyday.

It's really creepy, but looking at the aerial maps, I think someone parked on Batar Creek Rd & crept through to the bush surrounding the house where they watched & waited. There's nowhere else he/she/they could've parked that wouldn't require driving back out past the house where people would now be on alert, or having to walk through so much scrub they'd risk being lost themselves.


The only other feasible abduction scenario would be a local on foot taking him through the scrub to a another area of Kendall - if caught carrying him they could just say "oh my goodness, the poor little guy was just wandering when I found him, I was trying to get to my phone to call 000" etcetc

I so hope this has something to do with the "complicated history" & somene's taking care of him. He looks so much like my own son & we live in such a similar area that this is getting to me like nothing has since Sian Kingi - who disappeared just as quickly.

 

[kiwi50]

Issued by the NSW Police Media Unit, on behalf of the family of William Tyrell



https://www.facebook.com/nswpoliceforce/posts/10152454113176185

Nice message, reinforces my thoughts that it has come from the foster parents.

 

[Amee]

I might add, that one thing that did surprise me, was to hear how many locals were on the scene so quickly, searching. It was a Friday, and it was not yet school holidays. Forty houses int he street? Are many of these people normally home during the day?

IMO its not surprising thats what close-knit communities do. Williams dad was frantic, looking through peoples backyards. Nothing moves faster than the "bush telegragh"

Twenty to 25 minutes” after he was first noticed missing, the police were called. They *arrived within six minutes. A “full search” was initiated.

By now, a couple of dozen *locals were looking for William.

By early afternoon that first day, word had spread that a little boy was missing. The community responded and by 1pm there were close to 100 people combing the bush. More came when school finished and there was another surge as folks got home from work. They searched late into the night. Nothing

http://m.theaustralian.com.au/news/...y-william-tyrell/story-e6frg6nf-1227064608526

 

[newone]

Teach them to snap a small branch every couple of steps ANY time they leave a human path. If they snap in the same direction everytime it will point the way back out.

excellent advice!.......I'd like to see every kid with a cheap whistle too when they go out.

 

[Xantara]

The Australian article alludes to the phones and devices etc of the family having been gone through. I wonder if/hope that police might also end up going through computers from just a little further afield.

 

[Lemony]

On reading the thank you, I was left with the impression that it was heartfelt and well written.
In The Australian article it was confirmed William was in the yard one hour prior to the disappearance. I know there was a report days ago that a detective confirmed but there was no elaboration (I don't think anyway?).

 

[bearbear]

with williams extended and close families whereabouts verified by police, and the remote probably of a stranger being there at the right time, its possible there was someone close by from the nieghbourhood who has probably spoken to william and may have been obsessed with him, they could have been walking past, said hello to him then decided to pounce. william could be in their house, this person may be enjoying and joining in all the drama and searching around him.
what other scenarios are there apart from family or a random paedo?

 

[kiwi50]

Stranger abduction is last on my list of possibilities, before that I'd put taken by someone known and hiding him.
Would like to know where dad's errand was and if it's possible William had hidden in the car and got out unseen and tried to find his way home. There were so many people looking for him so quickly I can't see him not being found if he was near the house.
William looked like a well cared for loved wee boy so I'm giving whoever was looking after him a pass.
It is starting to sound so similar to the wee girl who went missing in Auckland (someone put up a link earlier I think) for days and was eventually found in a stormwater drain.
Would love to know others favoured scenarios at this point.

 

[katydid23]

If these are foster parents, I have to wonder if he had some birth family members that might have been wanting to take him back.

 

[musicaljoke]

If these are foster parents, I have to wonder if he had some birth family members that might have been wanting to take him back.

But would they have been looking him at Gramma's place? It was quite a distance from home, and a surprise trip.

 

[Lemony]

That sounds plausible kiwi50, but you would think police would have been straight onto to that and we would have heard something by now. I don't know, it's a baffling case.
I would also like to know some of the possibilities as to why the family can't be named 'for legal reasons' , but not sure that we can discuss that?

 

[BatWoman]

But would they have been looking him at Gramma's place? It was quite a distance from home, and a surprise trip.

I'm intrigued by the fact that the grandmother has only been mentioned as his grandmother, not as x's mother etc. I'm wondering if william's complicated past means that he is in fact a foster child, but this is his natural grandmother. It would then make sense that she mentioned to some family that W was visiting, and a member of his natural family came to take what's "rightly theirs".

 

[Amee]

But would they have been looking him at Gramma's place? It was quite a distance from home, and a surprise trip.

GMA had been in hospital and needed care at home.

William's grandmother is an active and well-liked member of the tight-knit Kendall community and had recently been in hospital.

His grandfather died earlier this year and his grandmother needed someone to care for her in the house, so William's family had travelled from their home in Sydney to stay with her.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-hope-finding-alive-fades.html#ixzz3Dq3SkKxO

 

[kiwi50]

That sounds plausible kiwi50, but you would think police would have been straight onto to that and we would have heard something by now. I don't know, it's a baffling case.
I would also like to know some of the possibilities as to why the family can't be named 'for legal reasons' , but not sure that we can discuss that?

i'm surprised how restrained the media are being, they seem to be happy to go along with the silence.