Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #15

[sosocurious]

Yes, i get that. I have seen a few people say that he deleted his phone records. I am only saying....but did he. It could be automatic. How does anyone know?? That is my question??

If that had been the case I am sure Colin would have let us know. ddsmiley:

 

[Karo]

I have had to keep some phone messages on my phone for personal reasons. Recently I went to retrieve them, only to find they have disappeared, no idea how as I did not delete them.

If that had been the case I am sure Colin would have let us know. ddsmiley:

 

[sosocurious]

What makes me very curious about the sketches of the two cars is how detailed they are. I imagine LE showed Mum photos of various car models to narrow it down, but check out a few details below:

- the cars are drawn transparent (easier to see on the dark car) except for the wheels and mags, which are very specific. Why non-transparent and highly accurate? That's a pretty good memory for detail when spotted from the tree (40-50m away) and house window (70m away) where Mum noticed them (reference to radio interview Part 1_if you haven't listen to it you need to bevause it tells all about when and where the cars were seen);
- the white car has some very distinctive features, like white side mirrors, little triangle side window and square bumper bar;
- the dark car also has a pretty specific bumper and lower spot/driving lights.

My 2nd and 3rd points could be explained by Mum just picking the closest match to the sample images LE showed her (only my guess that's how it was done). But my first point about the highly specific, non-transparent wheels/mags could mean something, like LE have a pretty good idea who owns these cars. The cars resemble too many models, but maybe the clue (or message to scum) is in the wheels. I'd be keeping an eye out for people who have recently removed or changed their hub caps.

Or someone else saw them as well.
CCTV shot photo shopped to Benaroon Drive.
Thinking out loud.
I mean the photos even give the appearance of the number plates being blurred out.
imo

 

[kiwi50]

Do the worst paedophile said ever get given a new identity when they are finally released from prison, and can they change their name by deed poll?

 

[Rayemonde]

But there have been other abducted children throughout the past few decades in Oz, some still famously unsolved... WT's not the first. I'd say his case is all a bit more mysterious than others, but the one advantage he has is Jubelin.

Also in the links I provided to the truly heinous UK pedophile ring, you'll note that that case has links to Australia as well as other countries. Child and pedophilia is a truly international crime.

And in the article about the UK paedophile ring, there was no mention of any abductions. It said the paedos groomed the childrens' families and the children. They were family friends and the like who had access to children; they weren't child snatchers.

 

[Imagining]

Did anyone know what time did the mother left the voice message on BS mobile that Friday morning? It just passed through my mind that the cars might had arrived at the Tyrell's house after BS got the message, knew the family had arrived and tipped off someone. The perfect timing might indicate something.

 

[Rayemonde]

Yeah but the murderer and child molestor that had contact with those girls was imprisoned and there was no evidence BS did anything to them. It was his brother in law who did that.

That's not what the police and the victims think. They think it was BS.

 

[Kyja]

Yeah but the murderer and child molestor that had contact with those girls was imprisoned and there was no evidence BS did anything to them. It was his brother in law who did that.

A relative of the two young victims was imprisoned but not for anything he did to them and as far as I'm aware he was never accused because he was in prison at the time of the alleged offences.

 

[Karo]

The Judge indicated that the children were coached and that the person who coached them was known for making accusations of a malicious nature. The police didn't lay charges at the time, nor did they have a transcript of questioning BS at the time.

That's not what the police and the victims think. They think it was BS.

 

[Karo]

Do you have a link to the dates of the offences?

A relative of the two young victims was imprisoned but not for anything he did to them and as far as I'm aware he was never accused because he was in prison at the time of the alleged offences.

 

[jigzy]

Someone up thread wondered why the dark car was see through. I think this would be a case of the FM describing the car saying it was dark, the Police Photoshop Artist showing her the image, the FM saying that's too dark, the Artist then quickly adjusts the opacity of that layer on a slider until the FM says that's more like it. The wheels would have been masked so that they don't form part of the opacity change so the tyres remain black. Jmo.


Eta: given the distance form the windows of the house to where the cars were parked, I'm surprised at the detail suggested by the image released. I'm not sure I could remember that much detail such as the small triangle car windows. I think these cars must be known to LE already. Jmo

 

[richieswan]

Someone up thread wondered why the dark car was see through. I think this would be a case of the FM describing the car saying it was dark, the Police Photoshop Artist showing her the image, the FM saying that's too dark, the Artist then quickly adjusts the opacity of that layer on a slider until the FM says that's more like it. The wheels would have been masked so that they don't form part of the opacity change so the tyres remain black. Jmo.


Eta: given the distance form the windows of the house to where the cars were parked, I'm surprised at the detail suggested by the image released. I'm not sure I could remember that much detail such as the small triangle car windows. I think these cars must be known to LE already. Jmo

That would be me up thread. I see what you are saying, but changing the opacity does not effect the transparency. In Photoshop (or any photo editing software) adjusting the opacity will affect the colour tone (eg from red to pink to eventually white), but remains non-transparent. I've just been playing with these images and I think the wheels are real photos stuck onto the sketch of the cars. The transparency may just indicate a level of uncertainty.

 

[jigzy]

That would be me up thread. I see what you are saying, but changing the opacity does not effect the transparency. In Photoshop (or any photo editing software) adjusting the opacity will affect the colour tone (eg from red to pink to eventually white), but remains non-transparent. I've just been playing with these images and I think the wheels are real photos stuck onto the sketch of the cars. The transparency may just indicate a level of uncertainty.

No, you are incorrect. I have taught Photoshop for over a decade. The layer opacity slider means exactly transparency of that layer. Nothing to do with colours, simply how visible that layer is!

 

[crabstick]

Im biting my tongue for more reasons than one.

I was just thinking of that case yesterday, and it was a horrific case. Children murdering a toddler,

It looks like they have used the rubber Jigzy? Its done with a digitizer over a street view image? They have used a particular brush style with some 70% opacity over the Streetview image?

No, you are incorrect. I have taught Photoshop for over a decade. The layer opacity slider means exactly transparency of that layer. Nothing to do with colours, simply how visible that layer is!

 

[frogwell]

I'm interested in your theory, 35 still interests me, is 144 Baktar Creek road the house in the middle of all that bush? I can't see any tracks to drive on between them

I understand what you are saying. At the bend on Battar Creek road, the property next to 144 is 158. When you look at the satellite photo of that property you can definitely see a straight line within the trees. That is Cobb and Co road. And yet you can't see the actual road through the bush. So what about a track that fits a 4wd width across the back of a property. You wouldn't see it on a satelite image.

 

[Found]

Yet, thus far, nothing has come of those suggestions.
Further to that, no one has actually given a definitive date of when the offences actually occurred, the children were not taken to a doctor or hospital until long after the offences were alleged to have occurred.
Going only on what the court information and the Judge has said. It wasn't enough to keep BS in prison.

I'm 50/50 on this one. Yes he did get released and there was serious questions about the case. But on the other hand charges were not dropped and he did pay a $100000 bond so is there something in them.... I just don't know.,


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[Karinna]

BBM: Karinna, would you post a link to that please?

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747
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[Makara]

No, you are incorrect. I have taught Photoshop for over a decade. The layer opacity slider means exactly transparency of that layer. Nothing to do with colours, simply how visible that layer is!

I've taught PS for 20 years and you are correct.

 

[ninjabynight]

Yeah but the murderer and child molestor that had contact with those girls was imprisoned and there was no evidence BS did anything to them. It was his brother in law who did that.

No evidence? How about the testimony of the victim? No one was ever found guilty of raping those girls as it never went to court. BS's association with his sicko brother in law can be read two ways: either poor BS just happened to be accused of this other guy's crime, or gee isn't it convenient being a part of a paedophile ring ... your depraved mates are on hand as scapegoats.

 

[Makara]

Yeah but the murderer and child molestor that had contact with those girls was imprisoned and there was no evidence BS did anything to them. It was his brother in law who did that.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ey-john-hillsley/story-fni0cx12-1227402386747
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This link is behind a paywall. Have you copied and pasted from the article or have you paraphrased?