Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #16

[Little Scout]

BS doesn't strike me as the smartest man on the planet, yet it would seem he's managed to cover up the abduction of a child, any DNA evidence in his cars, phone records, <modsnip> his septic tank has been drained, his yard excavated and beneath his house searched. They've gone through his place and his claims with a fine-toothed comb, yet still LE has nothing to charge him on. He seems to be pretty clean for a man with a supposed history of child sex offence stemming back 30 years.

But he seems to be the only one likely to be involved. I'm sure his phones are tapped and house is bugged in the hope he'll lead LE to resolution of this case, but I can't help but think if he is involved, he's done a pretty clean job of it.

 

[Eloise]

I agree Little Scout, but BS is not the only POI. Just one of two that have been named. There are others.

 

[Bohemian]

Incomplete thoughts that have been silently clunking around in the recesses of my brain.

If BS is not involved:

A. Random Abduction. Statistically, the worst case scenario for William. Only possible clues are grey/grey-green sedans (same car seen in different light?) and white station wagon seen in Benaroon Drive by FM and white 4WD speeding through Kendall.

B. Targeted Abduction. May mean William is more likely to be alive. Also a possibility he wasn't taken by a 'paedophile ring'. Again, the cars are the only possible clues.

1. Someone knows William is at 48 Benaroon Drive and also knows his FD has left.

2. Grey/grey-green sedan casually drives past, scoping out location and possibly resulting also in positive identification of William. Parks between 31 and 35 Benaroon Drive.

3. White station wagon arrives containing someone whom William knows and parks behind sedan.

4. Occupants of both cars conceal themselves and surveill 48 Benaroon Drive.

5. William jumps from balcony (Why? Has he seen someone he knows?). He runs toward them continuing to play 'Daddy Tiger'. Known person picks William up and rapidly walks toward cemetery.

6. Cars pick William and known person up and drive through cemetery. William and known person transfer to white 4WD and leave for parts unknown.

*brain grinds to a halt*

Above open to constructive (and polite) criticism.

On your marks. Get set. Go!

 

[krig101]

I agree Little Scout, but BS is not the only POI. Just one of two that have been named. There are others.

IMO In the end there will be several shoved into one large paddy wagon. Or should we call it a (S)peddo wagon?!

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[crabstick]

Someone has turned on them for a deal before court

 

[Bohemian]

Someone has turned on them for a deal before court

Or they've all turned on each other like rats (an insult to rats!) There's no honour amongst paedos.

 

[bearbear]

Caravan, or boat? We havent seen that white station wagon? Or has someone seen it?

You would have to go somewhere quick. The further you go, the longer the time-line, and the more chance of being seen. That would mean the child is stored somewhere. Then you have to return, without being seen.

If someone went to fix a fridge, in Dunbogan? then someone went to fix a fridge, or..... Where was the fridge repair? Someone went there, but not to fix a fridge, or something on the way?

What would be the pathway there and to the school? How long does it take?



What gas does a refrigerator repair carry? CO2? That could wipe out a child?

i think thats a different photo to the one i saw on six maps, there are two cars parked at the end of the driveway along and opposite the grandmothers house in benaroon drive, a white station wagon and grey sedan

 

[Puggle]

Looks like the locals had their old bins out as part of a bin upgrade roll out. Kendall residents received new bins after 28 July 2014, but kept their old bins for a while: "Bins should be placed upside down on the kerb ready for collection on 8 September [2014]. The collection of old bins is expected to take another three weeks."

Indeed there are still bins lying on the road on Friday 19th September 2014 as Nearmap shows along Benaroon Dr. Might be a good reason to park your car away from the bin, which would be placed near a driveway. This is the grey car Crabstick spoke of (it was mentioned in a previous thread when TBell put Nearmap up). I see it's parked nowhere near a driveway. The yellow squares could be two yellow-lid recycle bins close together (but they look pretty big), but they aren't there on other days when aerials were shot.

edit: bin night is Tues

http://www.pmhc.nsw.gov.au/Lists/Ne.../July/Delivery-of-new-bins-underway-next-week

Friday 19th Sept 2014

Friday 19th Sept 2014

I'm confused.... If these images were from the 19th of September 2014 .......wouldn't we expect to see more vehicles in the image - From memory... We had media picture which clearly showed police/emergency service vehicles still on the road....along with that infamous shot (Now missing) of the Washing Machine Repair Van on the road on that date...... Also the Police road stops were on the 19th.

Would expect to see a lot more vehicles in this image if it was taken on the 19th ???

 

[Eloise]

so the photo was two years before william was abducted, thats not unusual to still have the cars 2-3 years later, i think the maps are ok to use, im not stalking anyone, just looking for the cars police have asked for any information on

Makara will correct me if I'm wrong, but yes, I think we are not supposed to sleuth the backyards of random people who aren't named POI/suspects etc

 

[Bohemian]

i think thats a different photo to the one i saw on six maps,there are two cars parked at the end of the driveway at 21 benaroon drive a white station wagon and grey sedan

The sedan looks steel blue to me.

 

[Karinna]

I am thinking with the very minimal timeline of FM making a cup of tea and everyone else inside the house while William is outside alone, and unless someone is hiding in the bush nearby watching the house , who else would of had a vantage point? To come across a little 3 yr. old boy all by himself who could possibly have predicted that, to be able to snap him up so quickly without a sound? Who was the closest neighbour that was at home at the time that would of been able to see that area of g/m's yard & house? It's such a weird case IMO.

 

[Puggle]

BS doesn't strike me as the smartest man on the planet, yet it would seem he's managed to cover up the abduction of a child, any DNA evidence in his cars, phone records, <modsnip> his septic tank has been drained, his yard excavated and beneath his house searched. They've gone through his place and his claims with a fine-toothed comb, yet still LE has nothing to charge him on. He seems to be pretty clean for a man with a supposed history of child sex offence stemming back 30 years.

But he seems to be the only one likely to be involved. I'm sure his phones are tapped and house is bugged in the hope he'll lead LE to resolution of this case, but I can't help but think if he is involved, he's done a pretty clean job of it.

I've done a bit of back and fourth with thought on this too Little Scout..... He may not come across all that smart, but I have wondered if this is an act and he is actually more cunning than people give him credit. It may entirely be my own perception/ suspicion.....little things I noticed...and they may seem trivial. In those first few days when news broke of the raid and him being labelled a POI I noticed he altered his sunglasses....lol...I can hear the chuckles now!!!.... but hear me out... He changed from sharp edged sunglasses that possibly gave an impression of being "cool" to some degree...to the more softer rounded sunglasses that would appear more demur... like a chameleon changing to suit the circumstances....Could I be wrong? Totally...But it's these little subtle changes or behaviours that keep me thinking.....

I often wonder him driving past the Bush search.... it struck me as odd that on the one hand to be claiming to be devastated by the recent events and media speculation - BUT then you go drive by the search site that was advertised in the media ahead of the event telling you exactly when it was going to take place.... was/is he stupid inviting more media speculation attention on himself??....or overly smug??

 

[Found]

I am thinking with the very minimal timeline of FM making a cup of tea and everyone else inside the house while William is outside alone, and unless someone is hiding in the bush nearby watching the house , who else would of had a vantage point? To come across a little 3 yr. old boy all by himself who could possibly have predicted that, to be able to snap him up so quickly without a sound? Who was the closest neighbour that was at home at the time that would of been able to see that area of g/m's yard & house? It's such a weird case IMO.

Yes I agree. So it's ether bs or some random person out looking for children out of their parents site.


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[Karinna]

I've done a bit of back and fourth with thought on this too Little Scout..... He may not come across all that smart, but I have wondered if this is an act and he is actually more cunning than people give him credit. It may entirely be my own perception/ suspicion.....little things I noticed...and they may seem trivial. In those first few days when news broke of the raid and him being labelled a POI I noticed he altered his sunglasses....lol...I can hear the chuckles now!!!.... but hear me out... He changed from sharp edged sunglasses that possibly gave an impression of being "cool" to some degree...to the more softer rounded sunglasses that would appear more demur... like a chameleon changing to suit the circumstances....Could I be wrong? Totally...But it's these little subtle changes or behaviours that keep me thinking.....

I often wonder him driving past the Bush search.... it struck me as odd that on the one hand to be claiming to be devastated by the recent events and media speculation - BUT then you go drive by the search site that was advertised in the media ahead of the event telling you exactly when it was going to take place.... was/is he stupid inviting more media speculation attention on himself??....or overly smug??

Maybe LE should do a polygraph on him? I know its not admissable in court but could prove interesting nevertheless?

 

[Karinna]

Yes I agree. So it's ether bs or some random person out looking for children out of their parents site.


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Could be? But in such a small place where most people know everyone as they do in those types of places, has there ever been any other child predators in the past lurking around people's houses on the off chance they might steal a child? Does Kendall have problems with that sort of activity being reported before i wonder?

 

[bearbear]

is it possible for someone here to go to six maps and copy a screen shot of the two cars at the end of the driveway in a property in benaroon drive across the road and along from williams grandmothers old place and opposite ellendale cres kendall? sorry ive tried but cant, its a very clear ariel view, to me they do look like the two cars parked outside williams grandmothers that day and worth a look, even if the photo was taken 2012 its not unusual to have the same cars for several years, and this property is along and over the road from number 48.
i dont think its snooping im just trying to locate the cars police have asked for info about and the maps are for public use

 

[Puggle]

Maybe LE should do a polygraph on him? I know its not admissable in court but could prove interesting nevertheless?

Not sure how often we use the lie detectors here in Australia??.....never hear them mentioned much in any cases I have followed here ...mmm curious to know if we do ???

 

[sosocurious]

Yes I agree. So it's ether bs or some random person out looking for children out of their parents site.


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A rehearsed fantasy = opportunity.
Coincidence = a plan in disguise.

 

[Puggle]

Bear.... your correct...maybe just delete the house number in your post or the post will get moved entirely. I'll send a tip and post the shot your talking about to Crime stoppers.....cause yes..they (Police) were asking for the publics help.

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[crabstick]

Just trying to eliminate cars from across the road from the Tyrells, verge and driveway. Not war driving with pineapple cans in streetview. No backyards.

Driveway bottom left corner. Car looks to be the same so eliminated from verge. Cars appear to parked on verge in Benaroon drive as the drives are sol long no one wants to reverse out. Easier to park on the kerb

Makara will correct me if I'm wrong, but yes, I think we are not supposed to sleuth the backyards of random people who aren't named POI/suspects etc

URL: https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/