Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #16

[they'll get you]

BBM, where is the evidence that he knows what happened to William? And where is BS's previous list of convictions from previous crimes that entitle anyone to call him a criminal? Also gut feeling doesn't = Fact, IMO, as much as some people want it to.
I will wait and see what the judge & jury decide before I form a definite opinion in this case. I'm not saying he is guilty or innocent yet, but that's just me, lol.

Maybe, just maybe GM has a gut feeling like Denise Morcombe?

Mrs Morcombe said she knew Cowan was the man when he walked into the coronial inquest in 2011.

"I just got a really cold shiver," she said.

"I turned to Bruce and said 'Oh my god that's him'. He was just horrible."
http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/cowan-should-never-been-out-jail-denise-morcombe/2199997/

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ing-from-kendall/story-fnpn118l-1227173646506

“Everyone involved in the case and even those not involved still remain a possibility as having something to do with what has occurred.”

 

[they'll get you]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-nearby-forest-hope-finding-alive-fades.html

Tiny community has rallied around William's 'desperate' family

Why in quotes, I wonder.

Kendall supports WT family and Wellington supports (S)peddo.....go figure? :shame:


'We fully support him': Wellington shocked by Spedding link to William Tyrell case

http://www.centralwesterndaily.com....cked-by-spedding-link-to-william-tyrell-case/

 

[krig101]

Btw:

It was also reported that a plumber who was later called to investigate a blocked pipe at Bill and Margaret Spedding's Bonny Hils house found a child's shirt in one of the pipes, although this item of clothing may not have been linked to William Tyrrell's disappearance.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Spedding-came-police-radar.html#ixzz3mg1WrQSS

I wish they would have given more details on the shirt like size, theme, boys, girls. If it wasn't related to William then was it related to an unknown child or one of his grandkids? But I do remember at the same time it was reported that William did have a shirt on under his Spidey Suit because he didn't want to wear a singlet. Just one more thing to always keep me thinking!

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2015/s4218287.htm

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[SapphireSteel]

Grey car? [helicopter shot] Detectives Holden Commodore? Squirrel!!!



In the Wynarka thread some of us felt the clothing had come from local markets, online or overseas. Some felt the pineapple boy may have related to a Philippine purchase. But one astute user pointed out the label name was Ocean road in Chinese.

We have a GAPA, possible GAPA connection in both cases with quilt associations donating quilts to GAPA children every christmas. A very long bow indeed. We just don't know whether someone travelled interstate for business or to throw detectives off the scent.

Bathurst to Tailems bend maybe. Pineapple Boy has connotations which I wont repeat here. Is there the associated show ground group with carnival show rides that follow the motor racing circuit? Between NSW and South Australia? Transient bunch.

Yes, there is.

I suggest SAPOL have already covered this group.

I personally know a few of them, a loose band of family and employees who run rides all over Australia.

The folks I know love their kids in fact the business is handed down from generation to generation.

I sincerely doubt its any of the Show Folk. For a start, the other Show workers know each others families and would notice one missing.

 

[SapphireSteel]

its the Daily Mail....hardly known for their accuracy!

 

[richieswan]

This is what you said:
(Quote)
Just glad it's school holidays so he didn't get a chance to slow down near any kids.

Sorry if i misconstrued what you were implying and i misunderstood.

Thanks, I do agree with you. My comment was tongue in cheek. BS may be totally innocent and found to be innocent in court, but he has been branded by society as 'that guy'. In 10 years time people will remember him as 'that guy' regardless of the outcome. Even if found innocent some will think he is still guilty but there just wasn't a strong enough case against him. In the future when he slows down to 40km/hr in a school zone, he will be watched by all, piecing him with a hundred dagger eyes. I will bite my tongue until the facts are out there. Onwards.

P.S. does anyone sleep? There were about a million posts in the middle of the night (NSW).

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Haven't you figured that out yet.... he doesn't exist...along with the Black Camry car seen in the area that morning by the truck driver who reported it to police...nor the large woman sitting in the passengers seat of the Camry alone...lol...they have become urban myths already...

Best just to keep the urban myths in the back of your mind until there finally revealed... holy molly we only just learnt about 4 cars on Benaroon that morning....Two parked...one that did a u turn whilst the kids were riding their bikes in the driveway...and some 4x4 heading out of Benaroon at the time William went missing - same vehicle spotted at high speeds in Kendall that morning..

Yep seems a lot we don't know...yet.

I had to search something for makara, couldn't find the link but 1000s of interesting things which had been unknown to me.
When you say, it's fantasy - well, I won't further rack my brains ...

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks, I do agree with you. My comment was tongue in cheek. BS may be totally innocent and found to be innocent in court, but he has been branded by society as 'that guy'. In 10 years time people will remember him as 'that guy' regardless of the outcome. Even if found innocent some will think he is still guilty but there just wasn't a strong enough case against him. In the future when he slows down to 40km/hr in a school zone, he will be watched by all, piecing him with a hundred dagger eyes. I will bite my tongue until the facts are out there. Onwards.

P.S. does anyone sleep? There were about a million posts in the middle of the night (NSW).

I like it when WSers break the tension with humour (even if it's 'dark') as I'm sure many of us feel, particularly on this forum, very frustrated at times. No matter what, richieswan, some people are going to perceive our thoughts as 'inappropriate'. <modsnip> Even my own mother isn't the boss of me anymore. In any case, don't bite your tongue; it hurts!

Also, please define this thing you call 'sleep'. *slurps morning cuppa*

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ith-child-abuser/story-e6frg6nf-1227402941324

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[Deleted member 102539]

Without comment.

 

[crabstick]

According to LE, no one was told about the grand kids impending arrival. Allegedly the whole town of 800 odd people were interviewed about the matter.

It might have been opportunistic, but I doubt there wasn't an element of planning. An element of premeditated thought into getting someone out of there.
Most of us would have been caught because we don't have that premeditated train of thought. To take that risk, it would still be calculated risk. Its like an apprenticeship many refine in prison learning from others in prison etc. Im sure some of it is not the child but the adrenalin gleaned from the risk, like gambling.

The numbers of people being in a no through road with 15 houses in a rural setting mid week are extremely low.

Benaroon drive is an abductors paradise in my eyes. It has low numbers of houses with obscured view by numbers of trees, open fences for free movement with an escape route through dense forest via track and a back exit through a cemetery out of the area.
15 houses in the middle the working week means there is low chance of being seen.

Without more detailed information we are extremely limited in what we know. We know nothing really.

Someone must have been desperate. Is it a risk you would take? The outcome is horrendous.

Crikies, if I caught someone abducting a kid in our street Id be a rabid dog. It would be no pub fight.

The fact the father had gone meant it was a soft target. Little chance of meeting fierce adversary. That is perfect opportunity.

BBM, Do we know exactly who was told about the FP's surprise visit to g/ma's at that time? Did g/ma have other friends in Kendall she could of told? And word gets around in a small town like that usually where everyone knows everyone else's business. So i don't think we can definitively say who exactly knew unless g/ma didn't know either that her family were coming for a visit? And what about the FP's did they tell anyone before they left? Who knew about them i wonder and what they were doing at that time? But i'm sure the police have investigated all that already?

 

[Lemony]

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...-william-tyrrell/story-fni0cx12-1227314208802

'Only days before William Tyrrell was abducted, his grandmother told repairman Bill Spedding she was expecting a stay-over visit from her family and could he fix her faulty washing machine'

BS would have been questioned over whether he shared the information about the visit. If he did share that may have led police to another poi, if he told nobody then there is another reason for police focus.

 

[Karo]

Did Grandma share details about the make up of the family though?

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...-william-tyrrell/story-fni0cx12-1227314208802

'Only days before William Tyrrell was abducted, his grandmother told repairman Bill Spedding she was expecting a stay-over visit from her family and could he fix her faulty washing machine'

BS would have been questioned over whether he shared the information about the visit. If he did share that may have led police to another poi, if he told nobody then there is another reason for police focus.

 

[bearbear]

wondering if williams gm told any neighbours about the friday visit and did any of these neighbours see the two cars?
also i wonder why husband of neighbour jw remembers the exact time she left to go shopping at 10.28am,
they are only 10m from where little william vanished
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ost-a-year-later/story-fni0cx12-1227513994803

 

[Karo]

I sure I read that they were living with the parents of Hillsly and the x and girls, that indicates that BS was no longer part of the family, to me.

I'm off to bed....

But I am pretty certain the link with details about his obsession with his nieces and further info of time frame after his first release from prison is in (somewhere within) the "MAKO" files...... regardless of how you look at things...the Mother and Bill allowed these children to reside around a known paedophile.......

 

[Lemony]

It's been highlighted throughout the investigation that nobody else knew. There is strategy behind that IMO
IF GM was recovering from illness perhaps she had limited contact with other people in the days leading up to the family visit. Perhaps it is easy for her to remember who she spoke to.

 

[crabstick]

Grandmas discussion with anyone appears key.
The chances someone be there by chance when all the ducks lined up are extremely lucky. Someone knew William would be at grandmas 2 hours away from FP. Thats a long way to follow someone. Someone knew GM and FP had gone inside. Someone knew dad had gone to work.

It was a dead end street in a remote rural setting at midday midweek. That stinks of planning. Even the day or hour prior. Not passer by.

It's been highlighted throughout the investigation that nobody else knew. There is strategy behind that IMO
IF GM was recovering from illness perhaps she had limited contact with other people in the days leading up to the family visit. Perhaps it is easy for her to remember who she spoke to.

You get in the car to watch the clock. You are going to work. You want to know where you stand. She was there on the day. She would time line straight away?

wondering if williams gm told any neighbours about the friday visit and did any of these neighbours see the two cars?
also i wonder why husband of neighbour jw remembers the exact time she left to go shopping at 10.28am,
they are only 10m from where little william vanished
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ost-a-year-later/story-fni0cx12-1227513994803

The neighbours appear quite spread out. It would be interesting to see if they even talk weekly. Grandma was ill, people must have visited.

wondering if williams gm told any neighbours about the friday visit and did any of these neighbours see the two cars?
also i wonder why husband of neighbour jw remembers the exact time she left to go shopping at 10.28am,
they are only 10m from where little william vanished
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ost-a-year-later/story-fni0cx12-1227513994803

Who had William spoken to before in neighbourhood? Had William been the adjacent bush before?
We know little about the bush activities that occurred on a common basis. Tracks at the end of street appear well visited. Bush walkers? Motocross? Mountain bikes?

 

[Puggle]

I had to search something for makara, couldn't find the link but 1000s of interesting things which had been unknown to me.
When you say, it's fantasy - well, I won't further rack my brains ...

Yeah it's Fantasy...only until we are told otherwise... I suspect your mystery man was anything but fantasy to be honest - as they attempted to shut that down fairly quickly in the media , same as the black Camry seen on Barter Creek road.

But time will tell I guess

 

[crabstick]

What 'exactly' was wrong with the washing machine? Has it been fixed? Do they still have it?