Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #16

[Karo]

BS visited the house prior to the disappearance, to quote on the repair, he ordered the part, it arrived on Thursday (I believe) and returned the following week to replace the part. (talked about often, in relation to his white van being seen amongst police cars. Talked about in the video he made.

What 'exactly' was wrong with the washing machine? Has it been fixed? Do they still have it?

 

[crabstick]

I don't give a crap what Bill Spedding thought. I want to know what another washing machine expert thought. A second opinion on exactly the problem. What were the symptoms of the machine error? Was there an error code?
What was the spare part? Where is the old part? When did the part arrive? The spare part may have been a ruse. A ruse to return at a more opportune moment, not on grandmas behalf.

Is the laundry under the verandah at the back of the house on the first floor?

BS visited the house prior to the disappearance, to quote on the repair, he ordered the part, it arrived on Thursday (I believe) and returned the following week to replace the part. (talked about often, in relation to his white van being seen amongst police cars. Talked about in the video he made.

If there was ever a place to have the car, it was in line with that verandah where the child would be taken back under it through the trees out of line of sight. Possibly covering the red with a drop sheet.

http://s4.postimg.org/vod9j31j1/tyrell_rear.jpg

 

[louisepiglet]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ing-from-kendall/story-fnpn118l-1227173646506

“Everyone involved in the case and even those not involved still remain a possibility as having something to do with what has occurred.”

If this was a quote by the police why are we told we are unable to discuss extended family members

 

[Bohemian]

It's been highlighted throughout the investigation that nobody else knew. There is strategy behind that IMO
IF GM was recovering from illness perhaps she had limited contact with other people in the days leading up to the family visit. Perhaps it is easy for her to remember who she spoke to.

Almost imperceptible change in LE's focus recently?

"Psychological profiler, Dr Sarah Yule, [is] a key member of Strike Force Rosann, [...]" stated: “So if no-one but William’s parents and grandmother knew in advance of his visit to Kendall, [...]"

https://m.police.nsw.gov.au/news_me...vdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDg2MDQuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ==

So now it's "if no-one knew" not "no-one knew" according to LE?

*french accent* Interesting; no? *sashays away to the strains of Henry Mancini blowing smoke from her cigarette holder*

 

[frogwell]

I'm off to bed....

But I am pretty certain the link with details about his obsession with his nieces and further info of time frame after his first release from prison is in (somewhere within) the "MAKO" files...... regardless of how you look at things...the Mother and Bill allowed these children to reside around a known paedophile.......

It's possible BS was never informed of what his brother-in law's crime was. He may just have been told that he was going to stay with the family whilst out on parole.

 

[Karo]

I think it's highly unlikely you are going to get those answers unless you speak directly to the Grandma, the information I posted is what is in MSM, nothing more, nothing less. As far as I am aware, there was no other washing machine expert.

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I don't give a crap what Bill Spedding thought. I want to know what another washing machine expert thought. A second opinion on exactly the problem. What were the symptoms of the machine error? Was there an error code?
What was the spare part? Where is the old part? When did the part arrive? The spare part may have been a ruse. A ruse to return at a more opportune moment, not on grandmas behalf.
Is the laundry under the verandah at the back of the house on the first floor?



If there was ever a place to have the car, it was in line with that verandah where the child would be taken back under it through the trees out of line of sight. Possibly covering the red with a drop sheet.

http://s4.postimg.org/vod9j31j1/tyrell_rear.jpg

 

[Karo]

I don't give a crap what Bill Spedding thought. I want to know what another washing machine expert thought. A second opinion on exactly the problem. What were the symptoms of the machine error? Was there an error code?
What was the spare part? Where is the old part? When did the part arrive? The spare part may have been a ruse. A ruse to return at a more opportune moment, not on grandmas behalf.

Is the laundry under the verandah at the back of the house on the first floor?



If there was ever a place to have the car, it was in line with that verandah where the child would be taken back under it through the trees out of line of sight. Possibly covering the red with a drop sheet.

http://s4.postimg.org/vod9j31j1/tyrell_rear.jpg

It has been discussed previously that the laundry appears to be behind the children in the photos that were taken before WT disappeared., it looked like a box of washing soap on the windowsill.

 

[Wexford]

I don't give a crap what Bill Spedding thought. I want to know what another washing machine expert thought. A second opinion on exactly the problem. What were the symptoms of the machine error? Was there an error code?
What was the spare part? Where is the old part? When did the part arrive? The spare part may have been a ruse. A ruse to return at a more opportune moment, not on grandmas behalf.

Is the laundry under the verandah at the back of the house on the first floor?



If there was ever a place to have the car, it was in line with that verandah where the child would be taken back under it through the trees out of line of sight. Possibly covering the red with a drop sheet.

http://s4.postimg.org/vod9j31j1/tyrell_rear.jpg

lol @ crumpets and honey (Crabby's reason for editing)

 

[SouthAussie]

If this was a quote by the police why are we told we are unable to discuss extended family members

Makara can confirm this, but it is because the family members are considered to be victims too. They are deemed to be suffering enough, and all respect and privacy should be offered to them unless they are specifically named as a POI.

 

[Wexford]

I think it's highly unlikely you are going to get those answers unless you speak directly to the Grandma, the information I posted is what is in MSM, nothing more, nothing less. As far as I am aware, there was no other washing machine expert.

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Hmm Bohemian makes me want to sit down and light a pipe to think....or sit in a nice English pub with a pint and discuss the case.
A thought has been playing around my mind re the washing machine repair and the 'no one knew they were coming'. It is more than possible that while working on the machine a conversation was overheard. Can you really remember what you did and said the last time a tradesman was at your house? Grandma may not have specifically said to anyone that family were coming but she could have quite easily been on the phone and overheard. How many times have you seen or overheard something that no one else knew you did. Quite possible you might not even realise as you chat on the phone that the tradie is right outside your window or door. Just because she didnt specifically tell anyone doesnt mean someone didnt work it out.

 

[Makara]

If this was a quote by the police why are we told we are unable to discuss extended family members

Detectives have investigated and interviewed William’s wider family and checked his father was where he said he was. All have been cleared.

BBM.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wi...ry-fni0fiyv-1227195803646?from=herald sun_rss

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Hmm Bohemian makes me want to sit down and light a pipe to think....or sit in a nice English pub with a pint and discuss the case.
A thought has been playing around my mind re the washing machine repair and the 'no one knew they were coming'. It is more than possible that while working on the machine a conversation was overheard. Can you really remember what you did and said the last time a tradesman was at your house? Grandma may not have specifically said to anyone that family were coming but she could have quite easily been on the phone and overheard. How many times have you seen or overheard something that no one else knew you did. Quite possible you might not even realise as you chat on the phone that the tradie is right outside your window or door. Just because she didnt specifically tell anyone doesnt mean someone didnt work it out.

ONLY days before William Tyrrell was abducted, his grandmother told repairman Bill Spedding she was expecting a stay-over visit from her family and could he fix her faulty washing machine.

That revelation calls into question toddler William&#8217;s trip to the mid north coast being a total &#8220;surprise&#8221; that nobody other than his parents could have known about.

In the weeks after police raided his Bonny Hills home searching for clues on the toddler&#8217;s disappearance, Mr Spedding, 63, told of a conversation he had with William&#8217;s grandmother at her home when he inspected the machine.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-william-tyrrell/story-fni0cx12-1227314208802

 

[Deleted member 102539]

It's been highlighted throughout the investigation that nobody else knew. There is strategy behind that IMO
IF GM was recovering from illness perhaps she had limited contact with other people in the days leading up to the family visit. Perhaps it is easy for her to remember who she spoke to.

If GM was ill after a hospital abidance, it is possible, she got further medical treatment at home. Also it is possible, she got further treatment in the hospital on an outpatient basis or at an Orthopedic ambulance. It is possible, she was driven to an outpatient department by an ambulance driver (male/female). - There are many many opportunities to have told someone of the different staffs to be excited/reassured because of the upcoming family visit from Sydney. One person to be told would be enough - if this was the only wrong person. Grandmas - especially when alone, newly widowed, without family relationship in their home town - are predestined to tell other people of their family, IMO. That's 100% normal behaviour, IMO. For me it is exceptionally behavior, if not. (I always mention my children - whether my conversation partner wants to listen or not .)

 

[they'll get you]

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...-william-tyrrell/story-fni0cx12-1227314208802

'Only days before William Tyrrell was abducted, his grandmother told repairman Bill Spedding she was expecting a stay-over visit from her family and could he fix her faulty washing machine'

BS would have been questioned over whether he shared the information about the visit. If he did share that may have led police to another poi, if he told nobody then there is another reason for police focus.

What if, the machine didn't need a part delivered and BS needed the excuse to come back just to spy those children? He made sure to return on the day they were supposed to be there. (Coincidentally)

:thinking: I dunno what (alleged) Peddos do in these circumstances but they appear savvy when it comes to children.

 

[Hbayne]

Sorry if this has been covered previously but what was the outcome of the william and daddy carved into the tree ? Obviously it has no significance but it is so strange ? Could it have been a ruse to set detectives on a different path? Once again my apologies if already covered but the photo above thread of it reminded me !

 

[they'll get you]

It's been highlighted throughout the investigation that nobody else knew. There is strategy behind that IMO
IF GM was recovering from illness perhaps she had limited contact with other people in the days leading up to the family visit. Perhaps it is easy for her to remember who she spoke to.

If FM picked up sister from the airport, well surely it was highly probable that the sis knew their plans and arrival.
Was that the reason for the early arrival, to pick up sis?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

According to LE, no one was told about the grand kids impending arrival. Allegedly the whole town of 800 odd people were interviewed about the matter.

It might have been opportunistic, but I doubt there wasn't an element of planning. An element of premeditated thought into getting someone out of there.
Most of us would have been caught because we don't have that premeditated train of thought. To take that risk, it would still be calculated risk. Its like an apprenticeship many refine in prison learning from others in prison etc. Im sure some of it is not the child but the adrenalin gleaned from the risk, like gambling.

The numbers of people being in a no through road with 15 houses in a rural setting mid week are extremely low.

Benaroon drive is an abductors paradise in my eyes. It has low numbers of houses with obscured view by numbers of trees, open fences for free movement with an escape route through dense forest via track and a back exit through a cemetery out of the area.
15 houses in the middle the working week means there is low chance of being seen.

Without more detailed information we are extremely limited in what we know. We know nothing really.

Someone must have been desperate. Is it a risk you would take? The outcome is horrendous.

Crikies, if I caught someone abducting a kid in our street Id be a rabid dog. It would be no pub fight.

The fact the father had gone meant it was a soft target. Little chance of meeting fierce adversary. That is perfect opportunity.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ing-from-kendall/story-fnpn118l-1227173646506

THE person who abducted toddler William Tyrell may have laid in wait until the nearby houses were empty before striking, a neighbour believes.

Judy Wilson, whose property adjoins William’s grandmother’s backyard, believes it may be more than just coincidence that the child disappeared only after she went to run errands in town.

She said someone could have been waiting for her to leave, potentially aware that the neighbour on the other side was also away.

“If someone was watching the house, they would’ve seen me leave and would’ve known the other neighbour was away,” she said

Her theory emerged as it was revealed that a second access point to the street could hold the key to cracking the case.

 

[Karo]

ONLY days before William Tyrrell was abducted, his grandmother told repairman Bill Spedding she was expecting a stay-over visit from her family and could he fix her faulty washing machine.

That revelation calls into question toddler William&#8217;s trip to the mid north coast being a total &#8220;surprise&#8221; that nobody other than his parents could have known about.

In the weeks after police raided his Bonny Hills home searching for clues on the toddler&#8217;s disappearance, Mr Spedding, 63, told of a conversation he had with William&#8217;s grandmother at her home when he inspected the machine.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-william-tyrrell/story-fni0cx12-1227314208802

It was a surprise in coming a full day earlier than planned.

What if, the machine didn't need a part delivered and BS needed the excuse to come back just to spy those children? He made sure to return on the day they were supposed to be there. (Coincidentally)

:thinking: I dunno what (alleged) Peddos do in these circumstances but they appear savvy when it comes to children.

BS says he didn't go there on the Friday, no one has any knowledge that he was there.

If FM picked up sister from the airport, well surely it was highly probable that the sis knew their plans and arrival.
Was that the reason for the early arrival, to pick up sis?

She picked her sister up from the airport after William went missing, obviously came to help and be with them.

 

[Karo]

Tony Jones
http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/to...544057826?sv=d36f453d89e1faf18820774e1b705852

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ith-child-abuser/story-e6frg6nf-1227402941324

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Spedding lived with child abuser
A man identified as a “person of interest” to police investigating the disappearance of William &shy;Tyrrell was living with a convicted child abuser shortly before he was&nbsp;himself accused of abusing two young girls. Bill Spedding appeared ...

Sorry, I'm not able to paraphrase because I can't read any more. On my first access to the article it was still possible.