Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #17

[crabstick]

What if it were the MO of someone outside the realms of Williams family both bio that wanted the FP to lose custody? For multiple reasons....
Pure speculation but not about any of the parents; or GM for clarification.
William lived 2hrs away from Kendall. Only when William entered back into local ground did he go missing.
If true, as stated, did WT live opposite a POI in say Wagga?

I fear that it's entirely due to either miscommunication, or worse; politicking, between NSW Goverment departments as to why William's FP have not been able to talk. I also believe they want to protect his sister. If I were them, I wouldn't want to risk 'losing' her, as well as 'losing' William.

It's probably also to guard against legal action being taken against an agency by members of William's family IMO.

I can see another dust up similar to that surrounding the Bowraville murders (still ongoing) on the horizon. In that case, it's OK, as with Jubelin on the case, all (or as much as possible) will be revealed in due course. I think there's a good reason he is heading the investigation into William's disappearance.

 

[~Shel~]

I don't understand the system, but I totally get the parents doing whatever they are told. Keeping in mind they have already lost a child; I'm not sure there's much I would do to risk the other. Morcombes didn't have to face the legal ramifications (including the loss of their other child maybe?) if they did.

in saying that though, who CARES? If fred is a foster parent and has lost his son, why is it so different to Marty losing his biological child? Is adoption a whole other path? It matters so very little who is what when they are gone!

 

[crabstick]

If a suppression order hindered an investigation of the potential death of a child, person or persons need a metaphoric kick in the batteries.
Is william still alive? Has LE asked anyone with dashcam footage in the region to come forward for the day?
Maybe an abduction wasnt entirely about pedophilia.
Was Williams sister the real target? The older child that had history with someone prior in other living arrangements.
For clarity, not discussing or implying family.
If a government department suppression order is hindering the investigation of a child potentially alive, they are only facing a future scolding.
Talk about misconduct. They could be found culpable for the death by hinderance of the investigation.
If it is a body found.....
Public will want blood.

It is unprecedented and I believe there should be some lobbying done to state MP's regarding an inquiry in the future. David Shoebridge comes to mind; if he's still around.

I don't believe it's investigators who are responsible for the suppression of information, rather a government department who is at risk of losing even more skin than they already have in recent years.

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/calls-for-p...d-over-abandoned-children-20140410-36g31.html
(Oops...how did this get here?)

I agree with you about AJ; accessory at most.

 

[crabstick]

So POI lived opposite WT inI Wagga? And ended up up at GMs?
That is one hell of a powerball if it true.

You go to a clairvoyant. Why?
Because you want people to think you already dont know the answer?
There is a river of poison running through Australia. It stinks of self preservation.
The stench builds and builds. At some point the smell ends up somewhere.

 

[It's me Nancy Drew]

Hi all - have been a lurker for sometime now, but this is my first post. Wow I'm in awe of your sleuthing skills - I found Websleuths far too late, so have no info that hasn't been reported in MSM. I am an eternal optimist tho... Could it be possible that WT has been located safe & well & this is still being played out in the media in hope of catching a huge international ring? I can't bare to think of an alternative!

 

[PainExpress]

I doubt we'll ever know the full truth. Poor William. Unforgivable that he's not found yet due to some serious covering.

Shame on you.

 

[Karo]

Has he? I have only seen the one set of charges against him which is what ended with his sentencing. Any links?

Still reading posts... Found...... he has now been found to be a closet paedophile...

 

[perkerkel]

Very Good point TGY!

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I can't really see how seeing their faces makes it more likely that William is found. Can someone convince me?

 

[cocomonkey]

In light of the discussions regarding the parents being "gagged" as to what they can say, I think it's time to re-watch the 60 Minutes video and try to do some reading between the lines. I will pay particular attention to the things that the FM says emphatically. I get the feeling that she thinks someone has got William, and she's talking to them. Anyway, I don't have time now so I'll have to do it later tonight. Maybe some others will have time to watch it again.http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/60minutes/stories/2015/september/where-is-william/

 

[Wexford]

I think the penny is dropping for me.

Out of EVERYONE in this horrible case...who would NOT want their names broadcast? Who shows the least amount of care for William??

Those are the people who would place a gag order.

would cost a bit for a good lawyer wouldnt it? hmmm

 

[Karo]

Groups of friends go to clairvoyants now as a social outing, it's a fun thing to do for some. Sometimes people take it too seriously but sometimes the readings are weirdly correct and sometimes it's just probability.
Did WT live in Wagga? and which POI?

So POI lived opposite WT inI Wagga? And ended up up at GMs?
That is one hell of a powerball if it true.

You go to a clairvoyant. Why?
Because you want people to think you already dont know the answer?
There is a river of poison running through Australia. It stinks of self preservation.
The stench builds and builds. At some point the smell ends up somewhere.

 

[Bohemian]

Spiderman once lived opposite the POI. Now that is some news.

What? Which Spiderman? William? Where?

 

[Bohemian]

What if it were the MO of someone outside the realms of Williams family both bio that wanted the FP to lose custody? For multiple reasons....
Pure speculation but not about any of the parents; or GM for clarification.
William lived 2hrs away from Kendall. Only when William entered back into local ground did he go missing.
If true, as stated, did WT live opposite a POI in say Wagga?

1. Possible, but wouldn't be my first thought. I would think someone closer would be my second choice after stranger abduction.

2. Yes, isolated area, a lot of terrain only accessible to (and known by) locals, 'specialists'.

3. Have no idea. Where stated crabby?

 

[Bohemian]

So POI lived opposite WT inI Wagga? And ended up up at GMs?
That is one hell of a powerball if it true.

You go to a clairvoyant. Why?
Because you want people to think you already dont know the answer?
There is a river of poison running through Australia. It stinks of self preservation.
The stench builds and builds. At some point the smell ends up somewhere.

If a suppression order hindered an investigation of the potential death of a child, person or persons need a metaphoric kick in the batteries.
Is william still alive? Has LE asked anyone with dashcam footage in the region to come forward for the day?
Maybe an abduction wasnt entirely about pedophilia.
Was Williams sister the real target? The older child that had history with someone prior in other living arrangements.
For clarity, not discussing or implying family.
If a government department suppression order is hindering the investigation of a child potentially alive, they are only facing a future scolding.
Talk about misconduct. They could be found culpable for the death by hinderance of the investigation.
If it is a body found.....
Public will want blood.

Don't think I'd go so far as to think they would hinder an investigation. Miscommunication due to lack of proper protocol/systems, butt covering as far as knowledge of the truth as far as Joe Public's concerned and to protect themselves from litigation; yes.

It's almost as if abrogation of responsibility is becoming a national sport. Just own up when you fail; don't lob out the Book of Assorted and Irrelevant Excuses. Man up. You're insulting our intelligence and your ignorance is showing.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/lifes...e-is-a-bit-itchy/story-fnixw28g-1227550920058

OPINION: Calling the foster care system broken is like saying Agent Orange is ‘a bit itchy’

...........
We also need to acknowledge some people aren’t parent material. There are roughly 20,000 Australian children in foster care and that number is growing. A guy I know, a big drunken drugging wreck, once told me that he hoped a baby would help him “grow up.” People actually think children are life coaches you get to name. “We shall call him Oliver, may fatherhood stop me vomiting over myself on Friday nights.” I think we should pay people to be given long-term contraception until they get their life together. Give them money, jet skis, a nice kettle.

We live in a time of enormous collective delusion. One in which we naively let anyone have children, then elect politicians who don’t protect the victims of that naivety. When the Royal Commission hands down recommendations for how our society can better protect children, I hope one of them is self-awareness.

 

[crabstick]

Of all the friends I have, none seek the guidance of a clairvoyant. Nup, no groups. Last time I heard someone go a clairvoyant was 5 years ago. Mostly older women in their sixties.
Clarevoyants were chargimg $275 for a ticket to Claremont serial killer ifentification kit. Clarevoyants were bursting into the victims houses. Making late night calls to victims parents. Not zippo. Nadda nuting!
Not a fan the ones that messed up Don Spiers.
Maybe we all go to a clairvoyant and ask where William is? Cut out the middle man?

I dare say it must be which circles you mix.

Groups of friends go to clairvoyants now as a social outing, it's a fun thing to do for some. Sometimes people take it too seriously but sometimes the readings are weirdly correct and sometimes it's just probability.
Did WT live in Wagga? and which POI?

 

[Bohemian]

Too many locals have too many secrets....
Jones just happened to live near where William was staying, but he once lived across the road from BS.

Would Wauchope be classed as near?

Does a rap sheet show dates of charge or conviction?
Breaching AVO 8 May 2015.....did he do that from prison (rang someone???) or before heading there back in Sept 2014.
He would not be the first man to not be able to reside in the home.
Isn't that what PB wife said that and AVO prevented him from living with her???
6 August - aggravated indecent assault x 2 ..... is this another whirlwind.

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/9036039/tony-jones
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/.../story-fnii5s41-1227549626898?from=google_rss

What's this about William staying near AJ? Do you mean when he was visiting GM in Kendall? Or elsewhere?

AJ has been widely reported as living across the road from BS in their home town of Wellington. Recently, BS has been residing in Bonny Hills and AJ in Wauchope.

'Rap sheets' contain the dates of perp's arrests and convictions.

Don't know circumstances of AVO. Interesting. Any other charges around 8 May 2014 or 2015? This might then explain 2 x Aggravated Indecent Assault charges on 6 August 2015.

There is no doubt AJ is a very nasty type. Intimidating and assaulting police is not something your average crim does. Typical standover man; methinks.

 

[crabstick]

Names more than likely or I guess faces triggers relationship connections.
Who was where, when especially in low population. Yeps, hindering.
For clarity, not implying family involved but who they may have lived near or associated. Who they played sport with. Where they drank etc.
Yep, I concur with the proposers, 6 degrees of seperation tracking denied to local public that could solve the case.

Who 'wasnt' where they should have been.

I can't really see how seeing their faces makes it more likely that William is found. Can someone convince me?

 

[crabstick]

#478 May have misinterpreted the post with Jones lived near by.

What? Which Spiderman? William? Where?

 

[Bohemian]

#478 May have misinterpreted the post with Jones lived near by.

No problem. *removes defibrillator pads from chest*